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Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:59 pm
by beddie
He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them :lol:

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:01 pm
by kaptin1
beddie wrote:He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them :lol:
Think he may have picked up an injury. He was squatting and stretching his hamstrings not long before he was subbed.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:01 pm
by ClaretTony
beddie wrote:He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them :lol:
How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:02 pm
by Vegas Claret

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:03 pm
by Northerner
He's rapid but doesn't have an end product. He was the same at Boro.
Seems dangerous but yet to see him make a real impact yet.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:03 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?
Today or in his career?

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:06 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Ran us ragged at times but final delivery was (thankfully) poor.

Probably why he rarely starts for them.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:06 pm
by Juan Tanamera
I bet Charlie Taylor was glad to see the back of him, though for all his speed and trickery Wolves didn't trouble us too much.
8 shots but only one on target and even that was a routine save for Tom.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:06 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Well there were the crosses where Tarka had to make last ditch challenges

There was the one where Mee did the same

There was the one that needed heroics from Taylor

He was far and away their best player and ran Taylor ragged.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:08 pm
by kaptin1
I thought his crossing was ok today. Wasn’t as though he was hitting the first man, massively over-hitting it or shanking them out of play. If anything, they lacked a decent centre forward to capitalise.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:09 pm
by beddie
ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?
So you weren't worried then every time he got the ball?

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:09 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote:Merson will tell you why :lol:
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... s-struggle
Merson is absolutely spot on with Traore

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:10 pm
by ClaretTony
beddie wrote:So you weren't worried then every time he got the ball?
Same at Middlesbrough against us two seasons ago, so little comes from him. Of course you are concerned when a team has a winger with pace but he can't deliver a ball. He's got lightening pace and if he didn't he'd be playing his football a long way from the Premier League.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:11 pm
by ClaretRock
He was gassed. Knew he wasn't able to last 90mims glad to see him start as you don't want to see him come on with 20mins to go.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:12 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?
He wqs a threat all day. Quick. Direct. And constantly stretched the play.

However his delivery is and always has been his downfall.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:12 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote:Merson is absolutely spot on with Traore
and McNeil

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:13 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Juan Tanamera wrote:I bet Charlie Taylor was glad to see the back of him, though for all his speed and trickery Wolves didn't trouble us too much.
8 shots but only one on target and even that was a routine save for Tom.
Same as Molineux when people were raving about them.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:15 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:Same at Middlesbrough against us two seasons ago, so little comes from him. Of course you are concerned when a team has a winger with pace but he can't deliver a ball. He's got lightening pace and if he didn't he'd be playing his football a long way from the Premier League.
But he has got pace? Thats like saying if wood couldnt score...

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:15 pm
by FactualFrank
Vegas Claret wrote:and McNeil
and Burnley.

Merson was pretty much spot on with all points with what he said. Fair play.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:16 pm
by ClaretTony
FactualFrank wrote:and Burnley.

Merson was pretty much spot on with all points with what he said. Fair play.
Merson says some ridiculous things at times but he was absolutely spot on with that.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:16 pm
by Tricky Trevor
ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?
My thoughts exactly. His lack of goals or assists must make him one of the most over-rated players in the PL. Handy in a relay squad though.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:17 pm
by ClaretTony
cricketfieldclarets wrote:But he has got pace?
What I was trying to say was that's just about the only reason he's anywhere near the Premier League.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:17 pm
by JohnDearyMe
Vegas Claret wrote:Merson will tell you why :lol:
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... s-struggle
Some impressive analysis from Merson there for once on both Traore and McNeil.

He's right about Traore seemingly not bother to practice his crossing because he is not developing as a player despite his pace and power

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:17 pm
by bobinho
kaptin1 wrote:Think he may have picked up an injury. He was squatting and stretching his hamstrings not long before he was subbed.
He was. But he was STILL tagging us down that side. Bizarre sub imo.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:20 pm
by Tall Paul
Pace is all he has, I'd be happy if we had to play against him every week.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:21 pm
by beddie
ClaretTony wrote:What I was trying to say was that's just about the only reason he's anywhere near the Premier League.
Wasn't Dyche keen on signing him before Wolves stepped in.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:25 pm
by bobinho
ClaretTony wrote:Merson is absolutely spot on with Traore
I agree. If he had the final ball, he wouldn’t be playing for wolves. His pace is scary tho. Left Taylor (who had a good game really) for dead sooooo many times it was unreal.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:41 pm
by MACCA
Because he was dog sh1t?

His pace got him into all the right areas and positions but can't remember a single good ball or correct option taken.

The one he pulled back to Jack Cork ( I think ) at 1-0, was game changing.
cheers

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:56 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
beddie wrote:He was running us ragged, didnt look tired or injure, I'm glad he did of course but weird decision and I think it cost them :lol:
He ran that was about it. Not the greatest footballing brain!

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:56 pm
by FCBurnley
He played 3 perfect crosses in the first half which Wood would have gobbled up at the other end. I was relieved when he went off.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:18 pm
by boyyanno
He has absolutely no footballing brain, that's why he came off. He's strong and can run, but he has no end product.

McNeil is a far better player.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:28 pm
by Rileybobs
Didn’t think his end product was all too bad to be honest. He hung up a few decent crosses but thankfully Jimenez wasn’t on the pitch to capitalise. Taylor dealt with him very well.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:33 pm
by tim_noone
boyyanno wrote:He has absolutely no footballing brain, that's why he came off. He's strong and can run, but he has no end product.

McNeil is a far better player.
"Absolutely no footballing Brain" I've Heard everything on here now...

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:36 pm
by scouseclaret
Because Nuno is a tactical genius, whilst Dyche, as everyone on here knows, is a tactical Pygmy!

Seriously, his delivery might not be all that, but Charlie Taylor’s day got a whole lot easier when he went off. In fact, Wolves never really caused us any more problems after the substitutions.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:37 pm
by BurnleyFC
I’d have him over Lennon, any day of the week.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:40 pm
by tim_noone
FCBurnley wrote:He played 3 perfect crosses in the first half which Wood would have gobbled up at the other end. I was relieved when he went off.
As were Lots of others.....

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:42 pm
by bobinho
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Same as Molineux when people were raving about them.
Eh?

They absolutely battered us at the custard bowl. The most one sided 1-0 I have seen in many a year. Had it not been for Hart, could’ve been double figures.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:47 pm
by BOYSIE31
Great pace but can't cross a ball - needs to go away and improve that and he would be unplayable

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:49 pm
by FactualFrank
bobinho wrote:Eh?

They absolutely battered us at the custard bowl. The most one sided 1-0 I have seen in many a year. Had it not been for Hart, could’ve been double figures.
I was thinking the same. History though - we did enough to win today.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:53 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
I would definitely have him here. But does remind me of a greyhounf with a baloon!

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:00 pm
by SGr
It’s looks a strange one but a pattern we’ve seen with most managers he’s played under.

Ultimately, whilst he was running us ragged, the crosses into the box were poor in quality. The idea was clearly Doherty and Jimenez on, and put quality deliveries in.

We allowed space on the flanks (as we always do when defending deep), so Traore wasn’t necessarily needed to work the space for a cross. From Nuno’s perspective, I believe he wanted crosses planted on the head of the attacker, instead of just skinning the full back again.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:07 pm
by Claretuk
ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?
Nice cast, please can you take the claret specs off in future.. :lol:

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:14 pm
by keith1879
I was strongly reminded of a game against Stockport in the 90s when Tony Hancock was subbed off by them. Everyone was saying how relieved they were ....I was thinking that he had achieved nothing and we might find things getting more difficult.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:17 pm
by Goobs
Burnley fans love a runner :lol: :lol:

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:20 pm
by Top Claret
Taylor and McNeil didn't give him a sniff

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:20 pm
by Top Claret
Claretuk wrote:Nice cast, please can you take the claret specs off in future.. :lol:

He was very average

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:29 pm
by ashtonlongsider
Not sure why he was taken off, but I for one was mighty relieved when he was. If we’d had lost that game I can imagine the stick Taylor would be getting on here tonight. The lack of quality of his crosses was our fortune, but let’s be frank, Taylor never got anywhere near him and I am a big fan of the lad.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:31 pm
by icu81b4
He beat our defence almost every time, and put plenty of crosses in, I mentioned it on the match day thread and was pleased he was subbed.

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:33 pm
by Reecey1987
Work on his end product and he will be some player

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:07 pm
by corporal jones
ClaretTony wrote:How did it cost them? What had he done? How often did he actually deliver a ball with any quality?
What? Are you serious? Which game were you watching? He beat Taylor every time and put in good crosses. The fact that no one could get on the end was just good fortune for us.