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The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:29 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Just had the misfortune of flicking over to the news. The story was 'the country is in turmoil due to brexit!!!'

Is it really? Honestly?

Cant actually say its affected me in any way whatsoever other than reading the odd bit of nonsense on here, social media and some fruitcake at work occasionally mentioning the word.

Is the country actually in turmoil?

Its all a load of **** isnt it? Hasnt affected us, wont affect us, never will affect us!

Re: The country is in turnoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:30 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
7/10

Re: The country is in turnoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:30 pm
by thatdberight
It's done for your spelling; that's for sure.

Re: The country is in turnoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:32 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Bordeauxclaret wrote:7/10
Tell me. How has it affected you.

Re: The country is in turnoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:32 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
thatdberight wrote:It's done for your spelling; that's for sure.
That was the benedectine.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:33 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Plenty of blitz spirit there cricketfield

Just the sort of belief that we need.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:35 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Lancasterclaret wrote:Plenty of blitz spirit there cricketfield

Just the sort of belief that we need.
I honestly dot understand the big deal.

The news has just said the country is in turmoil. Really?

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:37 pm
by Lancasterclaret
To be fair, these are pretty seismic political times to be living in.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:39 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Lancasterclaret wrote:To be fair, these are pretty seismic political times to be living in.
Give me an example of a seismic affect its had on you LC

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:41 pm
by Jakubclaret
Simple 1 really the slightly lesser half are hellbent on exploiting cheap EU labour & the other slightly more xenophobic half wish to stop this, somewhere in the middle the answer lies.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:42 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Its the news CC, unless you really don't watch it at all, this is about as exciting and as disruptive as it gets in UK politics.

And we haven't even left yet!

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:43 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Lancasterclaret wrote:Its the news CC, unless you really don't watch it at all, this is about as exciting and as disruptive as it gets in UK politics.

And we haven't even left yet!
I try not to. Just put it on by accident. Its laughable.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:43 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Like a sketch. Ironically the correspondents called chris morris.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:44 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Well, lets hope it get no worse than "laughable"

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:46 pm
by Fenwick
The media is just having a collective news orgasm.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:52 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Turmoil politically but for the average person not massive amounts have changed.

It never does really, no matter which political party is busy making a pigs ear of things and brexit won't really be felt until we've left, but even then it may not change very much.

Usual media banging out stories to whip up a frenzy.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:52 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Lancasterclaret wrote:Well, lets hope it get no worse than "laughable"
Seriously. Im intrigued to understand how its affected anyone.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:54 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Turmoil politically but for the average person not massive amounts have changed.

It never does really, no matter which political party is busy making a pigs ear of things and brexit won't really be felt until we've left, but even then it may not change very much.

Usual media banging out stories to whip up a frenzy.
Spot on.

Its not negatively affected my job.
Its not negatively affected my prospects.
Its not negatively affected my wage
Its not negatively affected any aspect of my family or my life

Its all a load of horse ****.

Worse case scenario. Things change.... well with said change there will be opportunity.

But to date its not affected me negatively or anyone i know whatsoever.

Turmoil? :lol:

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:55 pm
by Lancasterclaret
You'll have to ask a slightly more representative slice of the UK public to be honest.

I reckon if you asked an EU citizen whose lived here fifteen years you might well get a different answer.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:56 pm
by TheFamilyCat
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Seriously. Im intrigued to understand how its affected anyone.
Haven’t you read any of Ringo’s posts over the last 2 years.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:56 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
TheFamilyCat wrote:Haven’t you read any of Ringo’s posts over the last 2 years.
In a word. No.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:57 pm
by TheFamilyCat
cricketfieldclarets wrote:In a word. No.
It’s definitely affected him.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:58 pm
by Lancasterclaret
TheFamilyCat wrote:It’s definitely affected him.
And he's on the winning side......

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:58 pm
by Bosscat
I thought the country was turnoil what happened ????

:D :D :D

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:02 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Lancasterclaret wrote:And he's on the winning side......
Ive never voted in my life. First time i vote i voted on brexit. I voted leave for a laugh. Leave won. Losers kicked up a stink. The winning vote didnt get actioned.

Its hilarious. If stay won, would we be in this scenario now i.e. trying to get the vote overturned? No.

Remain voters are the political equivelent of man utd fans from norwich.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:02 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
TheFamilyCat wrote:Haven’t you read any of Ringo’s posts over the last 2 years.
Could you narrow it down a little :lol:

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:03 pm
by MACCA
Brexit so far has had absolutely no affect on any part of my life what so ever as far as I can tell.

In fact in all honesty, since it all started my life has got better and grown from strength to strength. It probably is all just a coincidence, but long may it continue.

Maybe the reason I've took absolutely no interest in it and not given it an once of my time or thoughts is because it won't/doesn't affect me.

I'm a creature of habit and I'll just continue as a do, there's not many if anything that's forced me to adapt to something that doesn't suit me.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:05 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
MACCA wrote:Brexit so far has had absolutely no affect on any part of my life what so ever as far as I can tell.

In fact in all honesty, since it all started my life has got better and grown from strength to strength. It probably is all just a coincidence, but long may it continue.

Maybe the reason I've took absolutely no interest in it and not given it an once of my time or thoughts is because it won't/doesn't affect me.

I'm a creature of habit and I'll just continue as a do, there's not many if anything that's forced me to adapt to something that doesn't suit me.
Pretty much exactly the same.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:06 pm
by Jakubclaret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Ive never voted in my life. First time i vote i voted on brexit. I voted leave for a laugh. Leave won. Losers kicked up a stink. The winning vote didnt get actioned.

Its hilarious. If stay won, would we be in this scenario now i.e. trying to get the vote overturned? No.

Remain voters are the political equivelent of man utd fans from norwich.
& what a way to encourage voters who don’t usually vote to vote, I don’t blame you I don’t think I’ll be bothering again, it’s a fix, was a golden opportunity to show people that democracy meant something.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:07 pm
by Devils_Advocate
cricketfieldclarets wrote:I honestly dot understand the big deal.

The news has just said the country is in turmoil. Really?
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Sounds more like a description of the Burnley defense for the most of this season not to mention the two transfer windows

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:08 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Jakubclaret wrote:& what a way to encourage voters who don’t usually vote to vote, I don’t blame you I don’t think I’ll be bothering again, it’s a fix, was a golden opportunity to show people that democracy meant something.
Spot on. Never voted. The one time I do. It convinces me exactly what I suspected. It matters not.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Remain voters are the political equivelent of man utd fans from norwich.

:lol:

Bob on analogy.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:10 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Bin Ont Turf wrote::lol:

Bob on analogy.
Leave voters are like Burnley fans who moan about the TV scheduling

Whats your point?

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:16 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Lancasterclaret wrote:

I reckon if you asked an EU citizen whose lived here fifteen years you might well get a different answer.

Quite a few have asked me over the last year or so. The Poles and Slovakians don't seem too worried about it but the Bulgarians and Romanians are.

I eased their worries though, because no one is going to be getting dragged to an airport and be made to leave, even if we left the EU with no deal.

There'll just be little bit of inconvenience for them, like having to register with the authorities and being a few quid out of pocket.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:22 pm
by Fenwick
Lancasterclaret wrote:You'll have to ask a slightly more representative slice of the UK public to be honest.

I reckon if you asked an EU citizen whose lived here fifteen years you might well get a different answer.
Well, I don't really care what said EU citizen says. I welcome them to stay if they want. Work, pay tax and get on with their lives. Or go home and enjoy their own health service, benefits and schools.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:26 pm
by dsr
Fenwick wrote:Well, I don't really care what said EU citizen says. I welcome them to stay if they want. Work, pay tax and get on with their lives. Or go home and enjoy their own health service, benefits and schools.
Or, if they have been here for 15 years, they can apply for British citizenship or get dual nationality. (Unless they are Austrian).

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:29 pm
by Jakubclaret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Spot on. Never voted. The one time I do. It convinces me exactly what I suspected. It matters not.
It's completely dominated by immigration fuelled by big businesses demands, i just think if less immigration was here, our own country folk would get a better deal that's why I'm opposed to it, it's got to the stage where the recruitment agents are EU based in order to facilitate this easing language problems & paperwork filling, this morning in the park i was talking to a bloke picking dog ends up & drinking a can of tennents super, frustrated with not being able to find consistent employment for a long time, youngish bloke no sense of purpose.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:31 pm
by Stayingup
Jakubclaret wrote:Simple 1 really the slightly lesser half are hellbent on exploiting cheap EU labour & the other slightly more xenophobic half wish to stop this, somewhere in the middle the answer lies.
Its quite possibly a bit more than that. Would you think I with friends in many many countries and having lived on the continent for a long time and do now from time to time am Xenophibic if I voted for Brexit?

Let me tell you something. Many of my continental friends can't stand the EU in its current incarnation. Many like the UK very much and are behind Brexit. Its a funny old world. Problem is you see they dont think that perhaps what might be good for Germany or Greece for example would necessarily be good for them.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:33 pm
by Jakubclaret
Stayingup wrote:Its quite possibly a bit more than that. Would you think I with friends in many many countries and having lived on the continent for a long time and do now from time to time am Xenophibic if I voted for Brexit?

Let me tell you something. Many of my continental friends can't stand the EU in its current incarnation. Many like the UK very much and are behind Brexit. Its a funny old world. Problem is you see they dont think that perhaps what might be good for Germany or Greece for example would necessarily be good for them.
Yes too many problems with the EU i honestly would not know where to start.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:33 pm
by South West Claret.
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Spot on. Never voted. The one time I do. It convinces me exactly what I suspected. It matters not.
Typical any excuse to do nothing...lazy person alert!

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:37 pm
by Pstotto
The country is in a turmoil due to the cowardly prats f*8king Brexit up and messing with the minds of everybody in the process, like dithering skiers on an icy patch.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:00 am
by tim_noone
Yemen now that country is in turmoil.....just to name an Alternative.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:43 am
by Damo
"For Britain’s pro-European middle classes, Brexit is akin to a psychological trauma which has left many unable to behave rationally, according to two leading experts. Far from being hyper-rational observers concerned only with what is economically sensible, many have morphed into the “Remainiacs” of Brexiteer disdain."

Nail on the head

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Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:39 am
by mdd2
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Seriously. Im intrigued to understand how its affected anyone.
Just bide your time.This is the lull before the storm. There are several versions of the storm depending how it goes.
a) possible mass protests and a General election with a very unpredictable result if MP's cancel Brexit
b) ditto re protests if we do a Norway 2 deal with free movement ,paying in but no voice
c) increase taxes if we leave without a deal and chaos at the borders and problems with Ireland as the economy tanks for a few years
d) And the EU will just carry on oblivious of the harm it is doing with some of its ideas with many Europeans in Southern Europe wedded to an economic
policy and the Euro that has prospered Germany and screwed them

Tony Blair hit the nail on the head IMO when he castigated us for the harm the exit wiill do to us and the EU for not understanding the angst free movement has caused us-but also blamed us for not ensuring those Europeans who come here and then sit on their arses and do nothing but stay-are not made to return to their country which other countries apparently do. The EU seems incapable of taking stock and modifying its ideas and policies
I have followed all of this very closely and I am getting increasingly confused by the whole thing.
I am old enough to know why we went in-we were struggling outside looking in-and we will struggle again if we are out unless we do get our act together with the rest of the World AND THE EU.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:35 am
by ClaretMoffitt
It hasn't affected anyone significantly.

The media and politicians are simply fighting it on an ideological level rather than consequential. They simply want to be part of a European super state, they want less responsibility and more money.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:01 am
by Hendrickxz
I agree with the guy who said they should bulldoze Parliament into the Thames. And they can take those pillocks Cameron and Blare (deliberate) with em!

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:05 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
mdd2 wrote:Just bide your time.This is the lull before the storm. There are several versions of the storm depending how it goes.
a) possible mass protests and a General election with a very unpredictable result if MP's cancel Brexit
b) ditto re protests if we do a Norway 2 deal with free movement ,paying in but no voice
c) increase taxes if we leave without a deal and chaos at the borders and problems with Ireland as the economy tanks for a few years
d) And the EU will just carry on oblivious of the harm it is doing with some of its ideas with many Europeans in Southern Europe wedded to an economic
policy and the Euro that has prospered Germany and screwed them

Tony Blair hit the nail on the head IMO when he castigated us for the harm the exit wiill do to us and the EU for not understanding the angst free movement has caused us-but also blamed us for not ensuring those Europeans who come here and then sit on their arses and do nothing but stay-are not made to return to their country which other countries apparently do. The EU seems incapable of taking stock and modifying its ideas and policies
I have followed all of this very closely and I am getting increasingly confused by the whole thing.
I am old enough to know why we went in-we were struggling outside looking in-and we will struggle again if we are out unless we do get our act together with the rest of the World AND THE EU.
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Blair criticizing anyone about immigration and what to do with migrants is hilarious considering it was during his tenure that the doors were thrown wide open for migrants!!
He's part of the problem, so he needs to sit down and shut up for once, the massive clown.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:05 am
by Lancasterclaret
ClaretMoffitt wrote:It hasn't affected anyone significantly.

The media and politicians are simply fighting it on an ideological level rather than consequential. They simply want to be part of a European super state, they want less responsibility and more money.
Its turned you into something that isn't the alright bloke of a couple of years ago. So yes, its been affecting people significantly.

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:18 am
by JohnMcGreal
cricketfieldclarets wrote:I try not to. Just put it on by accident. Its laughable.
Did you vote in the referendum?

Re: The country is in turmoil

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:40 am
by Caballo
Come on cricketfield, play the game man. It's the worst thing ever! Apart from all those other times when it was actually worse, the bleakest outlook ever, if you excluded all the times when things were more bleak. The media have gone full 'Henny Penny'!