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Tommy Smith

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:39 pm

Just announced, Tommy Smith has died.
The quarried player synonymous with uncompromising play.

R.I.P

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Goobs » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:46 pm

Rip Tommy

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by hampsteadclaret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:47 pm

Legend.

Uncompromising.

Allegedly he would hit Leighton James with an early one, just to let him know he was there.. then he’d say to Taffy

- come near me again James and I’ll put you over that retaining wall.

RIP.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:49 pm

RIP Tommy.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:52 pm

Who was it that was sick of Emlyn Hughes and next time he came near him he dumped him on his arse. Only to hear Hughes in his high pitched voice say you're in trouble now. It was Smith who he had stuck once on. One of the old school hard men from the 60s and 70s.

RIP Tommy

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:52 pm

RIP Tommy Smith, a real character who, as hampstead says, was uncompromising but did what he did very well.
A Liverpool legend who won 4 League Championships, the European Cup, UEFA Cup x 2, UEFA Super Cup and the FA Cup twice in a Liverpool career spanning 16 seasons.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Bosscat » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:53 pm

RIP Tommy Smith

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm

Hard and uncompromising but also a damn good player.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:15 pm

A real hard man in an era of hards. Like Ron "chopper" Harris, Nobby Stiles and the Dirty Leeds contingent.

And yes, a very good player, too.
RIP

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by CleggHall » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:16 pm

A genuine hard man and good player, his duels with Brian O'Neil were worth the admission price alone.
RIP Tommy.
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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Darnhill Claret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:26 pm

Tommy certainly knew how to intimidate. A classic football hard man.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by NL Claret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:31 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:Who was it that was sick of Emlyn Hughes and next time he came near him he dumped him on his arse. Only to hear Hughes in his high pitched voice say you're in trouble now. It was Smith who he had stuck once on. One of the old school hard men from the 60s and 70s.

RIP Tommy
Either paul Fletcher or Steve kindon. Plenty of the old school after dinner speakers had a Tommy smith story. RIP Tommy Smith.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:39 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Tommy certainly knew how to intimidate. A classic football hard man.
He knew how to intimidate his own team mates by being a massive racist bully towards them.

Sure he was a good footballer too.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by CleggHall » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:49 pm

Boxing Day match 1960s, Smith and O'Neil at it from the off on wet, muddy TM pitch. Smith scythes O' Neil down in front of the Longside, as they get up O'Neil shouts "hey Tommy" who looks up only to be hit by a mud pie straight between the eyes. No complaints, fair game, one-nil to O'Neil, revenge to be exacted later. Those were the days!

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by ashtonlongsider » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:51 pm

RIP Tommy. Known as a hard man but he was a very good footballer. He used to have a pub called Smithies at Billinge that I used to frequent on occasions in the '80’s.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by bfcmik » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:54 pm

NottsClaret wrote:He knew how to intimidate his own team mates by being a massive racist bully towards them.

Sure he was a good footballer too.
But was it seen as racist or bullying back in that time period? Can people be accused of we now see as illegal or distasteful behaviours when the society they lived in then had very different morals and ethics about those things? Which of our current societal norms will perceived to be offensive by people in 50 years time? Who knows, and Tommy, as did many of us, lived his life to the society we created from the society our parents had. Hence why older people always despair of the 'youth of today'.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by IanMcL » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:57 pm

Sad to end with dementia.

I remember he was also walking with sticks, at a young age.

He was always patched up and played with injuries and a cortisone injection, or several.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Quicknick » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:58 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:Who was it that was sick of Emlyn Hughes and next time he came near him he dumped him on his arse. Only to hear Hughes in his high pitched voice say you're in trouble now. It was Smith who he had stuck once on. One of the old school hard men from the 60s and 70s.

RIP Tommy
Paul Fletcher. He feigned injury to get subbed so Smith couldn't get him. He'd elbowed Smith, thinking it was Hughes to the side of him.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by claretfern » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:20 pm

Just read Keegan's autobiography. He tells of the time, when he became famous, a well known boot company wanted him to endorse their white boots for a more than decent contract. Keegan thought he would run it past Tommy Smith (as he liked to be in charge of the dressing room) Tommy pointed out that although Alan Ball and Alan Hinton wore white boots, their respective clubs wore white socks but with Liverpool in all red Tommy thought that KK would look a bit of a prat in white boots...and there would be other marketing opportunities for him for sure.
Sometime later, as the players filed out for training, KK spotted Tommy wearing the white boots!!! 'Hey' he said 'you're wearing white boots'....well, said Tommy, you've got to grab whatever you can when you're my age!!!!
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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by mdd2 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:37 pm

Another young one to get dementia. How many more to come.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Claret Toni » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:13 pm

Tommy didn't have any time for his team-mate the England Captain Emlyn Hughes.

Liverpool v Chelsea and Chopper Harris scythes down Emlyn, after which Tommy jogs past Chopper and says, "Hey Chopper, I could grow to like you".

Different times, and good times.
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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by tim_noone » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:24 pm

RIP Tommy.......God Bless!

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by bfcjg » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:50 pm

RIP. didn't he get his disability benefits cut after playing in a veterans game before an FA cup final something sticks in my mind about that.
That said how many creative players who could have won things for club and country had their careers ruined by the "hard men " of the era ? How many defenders who wanted to play the ball out and close down attackers were coached out of such technique as coaches of the day wanted them to hit the opposition hard then aim for the knee ?
I think we have moved on.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by South West Claret. » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:52 pm

bfcjg wrote:RIP. didn't he get his disability benefits cut after playing in a veterans game before an FA cup final something sticks in my mind about that.
That said how many creative players who could have won things for club and country had their careers ruined by the "hard men " of the era ? How many defenders who wanted to play the ball out and close down attackers were coached out of such technique as coaches of the day wanted them to hit the opposition hard then aim for the knee ?
I think we have moved on.
Your first sentence is correct I seem to remember.
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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by bfcjg » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:55 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Your first sentence is correct I seem to remember.
And the rest ?

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by tim_noone » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:58 pm

History

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by JohnMac » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:58 pm

RIP Tommy Smith
Legend.
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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by South West Claret. » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:06 pm

bfcjg wrote:And the rest ?
Sounds reasonable for those times and some really nasty players like Harris (Chelsea) Storey and Ure (The Arse and Man U) not to mention our very own Colin Blant.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by mikeS » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:15 am

For a full back Tommy scored the odd cracking goal.
None better than the header he scored from a corner in the 1977 European Cup Final vs Borrusia.
I can still hear The commentator Barry Davis’s words now after the ball went in.
It must be on YouTube somewhere.
Rest in Peace Tommy.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:31 am

RIP to Tommy.

I’m glad we dont have footballers like him anymore, mind.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:38 pm

RIP Tommy
One of the toughest half backs I had the privilege to see on several occasions.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Stayingup » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:12 pm

IanMcL wrote:Sad to end with dementia.

I remember he was also walking with sticks, at a young age.

He was always patched up and played with injuries and a cortisone injection, or several.
Basically today we have political correctness rammed down our throats by a generation of not very well educated ( not all by the wsy) snowflakes . And if you disagree with the not very well educated stement watch some of them.on quiz programmes. Just what are they taught by their liberal snowflake lectuers? Having said that I am always delighted to watch a d enjoy University challenge.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by Gnulty » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:15 pm

RIP Mr. Tommy Smith.

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Re: Tommy Smith

Post by dr dre » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:24 pm

I had the privilege of meeting Tommy in the late 80's at an LFA disciplinary hearing, he was there due to the poor disciplinary record of his pub team, spent a very entertaining half hour with him whilst waiting for our cases to be heard, needless to say he had a very low opinion of disciplinary committees.

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