Quickenthetempo wrote:One mans 'Police Brutality' is another mans 'Didn't hit the bugger hard enough'.

HatfieldClaret wrote:Have you ever sat on a jury IT ?

If so, did you wait for the full facts or make your mind up before the trial started ? Just asking like.

HatfieldClaret wrote:Have you ever sat on a jury IT ?

If so, did you wait for the full facts or make your mind up before the trial started ? Just asking like.

HatfieldClaret wrote:Have you ever sat on a jury IT ?

If so, did you wait for the full facts or make your mind up before the trial started ? Just asking like.

Stayingup wrote:Facts and proof are alien concepts to this right-on twerp.

Corky wrote:I'm afraid this is yet another example of trial and judgement by social media. Why was the Policeman arresting the guy, what had happened prior to the arrest and the brief clip we saw. Had he resisted arrest or refused to do as the Policeman said. so many unanswered questions......

Anyone and I mean anyone who makes a judgement based on that brief clip is a fool. Sorry to be blunt IT but sometimes you need to take a moment out for reflection.

Imploding Turtle wrote:You think I haven't tried to imagine a scenario where a police officer is repeatedly beating a handcuffed, non-violent civilian? He wasn't even being arrested for a violent crime. He has some weed on him.

https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/ ... -1-6010771" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle wrote:True. Liberal and Fascist do have contrasting meanings.

MRG wrote:He was arrested for a violent crime, he was arrested for assaulting a police officer!

elwaclaret wrote:Robespierre was a pacifist liberal who didn’t believe in the death penalty... one of the most despised men in French history. Killed 40k in six months because they rejected his liberalism

Sounds like a lot of “liberals” on this board. Only liberal while you agree with them

Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, ok. I looked him up and neither pacifist or liberal appears at all on his fairly long Wikipedia page. So can you provide a source for me?

And it better be a good source, because "pacifist liberal" and "killed 40k people in six months because they rejected [anything]" makes me think that perhaps either you or your source don't know what either a pacifist or a liberal is.

thelaughingclaret wrote:I never fully trust any police officer, the majority are probably decent

Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, ok. I looked him up and neither pacifist or liberal appears at all on his fairly long Wikipedia page. So can you provide a source for me?

And it better be a good source, because "pacifist liberal" and "killed 40k people in six months because they rejected [anything]" makes me think that perhaps either you or your source don't know what either a pacifist or a liberal is.

elwaclaret wrote:As for the attempt at insulting my knowledge

Haha ok. My BA History lecturer is heading up the politics degree dept at Runshaw next year and regularly contributes to the USA press when they need a European expert. But we never talk politics.

Imploding Turtle wrote:This is ironic, because you couldn't be more wrong.

Also, i corrected the spelling errors you were too lazy to correct, because they bothered me.

elwaclaret wrote:As for the attempt at insulting my knowledge

Haha ok. My BA History lecturer is heading up the politics degree dept at Runshaw next year and regularly contributes to the USA press when they need a European expert. But we never talk politics.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He needs charging with assault and punishing appropriately, pension stripped away etc.
It won't happen though.

Imploding Turtle wrote:What do you reckon will happen to this guy? https://youtu.be/ZIOCiT9v9Dk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thankfully in the UK we have (at least I think we do) pretty decent levels of accountability for coppers who are ***** like this. So hopefully he gets a little more than just being put on desk duty for a while like they do over the pond if they kill someone because they were black and it scared them.

Imploding Turtle wrote:What do you reckon will happen to this guy? https://youtu.be/ZIOCiT9v9Dk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thankfully in the UK we have (at least I think we do) pretty decent levels of accountability for coppers who are ***** like this. So hopefully he gets a little more than just being put on desk duty for a while like they do over the pond if they kill someone because they were black and it scared them.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He needs charging with assault and punishing appropriately, pension stripped away etc.
It won't happen though.

Devils_Advocate wrote:No way not Runshaw!! Stop showing off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuHYO9TM5A

TsarBomba wrote:Around 12 years ago, I was policing a demonstration, with activists looking to wilfully obstruct the highway. An elderly lady in a wheelchair was positioned quite close to me, and without warning, tipped herself out onto the road. It was only later that I was told who she was, and that this was a regular tactic of hers.

Of course, my immediate reaction was to run over and grab her and pull her away from danger. She knew I would do this, and when I started to pull her to safety, she repeatedly shouted ‘Police Brutality’ at the top of her voice, making a scene.

A photographer from a local newspaper was nearby, and snapped some pictures that were on the front page a few days later. And there I was, in all my glory, dragging an elderly woman in the road. Looking at the picture in that singular moment, yeah, it looked bad, but of course, it didn’t tell the full story.

It’s very easy to judge without knowing the full circumstances. Any use of force by an officer has to be fully justified. If it can’t be, then you’re in trouble.

I fully appreciate that people have had bad experiences with the Police. I personally think the way Lancs Police treat Burnley fans, and how football fans in general are treated is an absolute disgrace. Yes, there are bad apples within the Police, it’s like any job, but I can safely say that 99% of the Officers I have worked with have been nothing but selfless, hardworking, and won’t think twice about putting themselves in harms danger for a complete stranger.

Grumps wrote:100% correct

TsarBomba wrote:
I fully appreciate that people have had bad experiences with the Police. I personally think the way Lancs Police treat Burnley fans, and how football fans in general are treated is an absolute disgrace.

Corky wrote:I wonder would Imploding Turtle like to comment on what TsarBomba has posted

randomclaret2 wrote:How can an expert on everything never have heard of Robespierre ?

SmudgetheClaret wrote:You really are a race baiting low life...

Corky wrote:I wonder would Imploding Turtle like to comment on what TsarBomba has posted. Or is he like those people who some years ago decided they would vandalise the house of a paediatrician. Well close enough isn't it paediatrician, paedophile, easy mistake to make especially if you are a bit simple.

thelaughingclaret wrote:I find it comical and pretty awful that the police demand that they get instant respect from the public just for wearing a uniform. They need to understand that respect is earned, and after incidents such as police brutality and bribery etc. not to mention Hillsborough and plenty more cover ups, many we probably are blissfully unaware of still, they have a long way to go to earn that respect.
I never fully trust any police officer, the majority are probably decent but after their recent history I just find it impossible to trust them personally, and it only takes one ****.

AlargeClaret wrote:Police brutality was sadly lacking at the climate change demo , I’ve never witnessed such mealy mouthed softly softly policing in my life . To think what most countries would have done if their capitals and main buildings were under threat from this rabble .