#NotMyAriel

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:50 pm

The trigger-kittens are at it again.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:22 am

I use Bold so I’m not that interested.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:35 am

I prefer the BSA Gold Star, a much sexier bike...

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The Ariel looks like a Noddy Bike

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TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:40 am

Anne Widdicombe should’ve got the job.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:48 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:Anne Widdicombe should’ve got the job.

As Ursula?

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:34 am

Rod Hull's favourite detergents - Ariel and Bounce

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:59 am

Used to love the Daz Doorstep Challenge

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AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:04 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:

The trigger-kittens are at it again.

The real trigger kittens are those who won't be happy until all actors are ethnics.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:05 am

AndyClaret wrote:The real trigger kittens are those who won't be happy until all actors are ethnics.

Let it go son.... Let it go.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:05 am

AndyClaret wrote:The real trigger kittens are those who won't be happy until all actors are ethnics.

Andy never lets you down!

Didn’t think it’d take that long!

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:08 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Let it go son.... Let it go.

Caught one.....

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:08 am

Better not tell Andy that all the animals in the new Lion King film are African!

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:08 am

martin_p wrote:Andy never lets you down! Didn’t think it’d take that long!

.... And another one !

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:08 am

martin_p wrote:Better not tell Andy that all the animals in the new Lion King film are African!

Huge if true .....

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:26 am

Fine by me. Glad they switched it from a ginge - that much pasty white flesh on show might blind me

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:36 am

They'll have a white fella playing Jesus next. Madness.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:37 am

Modern films should reflect society as is. Historic films should reflect society as it was then. No need to try and rewrite history to accommodate modern tastes, criteria or lifestyles. Should Disney make new films that have characters from different ethnic backgrounds ? Of course they should.

ClaretSteve · Post by **ClaretSteve** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:46 am

I’m sure she will be great.

Would you be upset if Tiana was played by a white actor I wonder?

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:51 am

Halle berry is fine

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:53 am

Blackrod wrote:Modern films should reflect society as is. Historic films should reflect society as it was then. No need to try and rewrite history to accommodate modern tastes, criteria or lifestyles. Should Disney make new films that have characters from different ethnic backgrounds ? Of course they should.

Heaven forbid we rewrite the history about the make believe cartoon story of a Mermaid. These are certainly grave times we live in

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:56 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Heaven forbid we rewrite the history about the make believe cartoon story of a Mermaid. These are certainly grave times we live in

I think you’ve misread what he said and Blackrod is actually in favour of a black Ariel.

I know. I was surprised, too.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:57 am

Greenmile wrote:I think you’ve misread what he said and Blackrod is actually in favour of a black Ariel.

I know. I was surprised, too.

In that case I apologise to you Blackrod. Im on a roll today of misreading things

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:11 pm

I notice most school books now have families from different backgrounds which reflects modern society and this is a good thing. It’s important for kids to see people in books or on tv that look like them. What I think is silly is saying let’s have a black James Bond just so we can say we have had one. The books were written years ago about a public school boy who in all reality wasn’t. Same would apply to say a black William Shakespeare. It doesn’t really matter on the face if it but you are trying to rewrite or distort history. Just think of a new main character who is from an ethnic background. Plenty of examples about of good main characters from ethnic backgrounds.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:14 pm

Blackrod wrote:I notice most school books now have families from different backgrounds which reflects modern society and this is a good thing. It’s important for kids to see people in books or on tv that look like them. What I think is silly is saying let’s have a black James Bond just so we can say we have had one. The books were written years ago about a public school boy who in all reality wasn’t. Same would apply to say a black William Shakespeare. It doesn’t really matter on the face if it but you are trying to rewrite or distort history. Just think of a new main character who is from an ethnic background. Plenty of examples about of good main characters from ethnic backgrounds.

So are you for or against Halle Berry playing Ariel?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:18 pm

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:24 pm

On stage, black actors and actresses are much more able to be accepted playing "white" roles, especially where race is not the issue. (Though it was a bit odd to see Othello at the Globe last year, with Iago's wife being a black woman.) On screen, it's a lot less accepted - if a black actress plays Queen Elizabeth it's because the director is making a deliberate point about her being black, not because she just happened to be the best person for the job.

I can't see any reason at all why a black woman can't play a mermaid. Does anyone have strict and scientific rules about the skin colour of mermaids? Of course not.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:40 pm

I'm still confused as to why a real mermaid wasn't cast for the part. I don't care what colour her skin is, I'm more bothered she has legs.

Scandalous.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:49 pm

It's not Halle Berry you dumb *****.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:00 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:It's not Halle Berry you dumb *****.

Alright calm down - Berry / Bailey its not the end of the world

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:04 pm

AndyClaret wrote:The real trigger kittens are those who won't be happy until all actors are ethnics.

Why are you a racist, Andy? A genuine question. Was it your upbringing, just ignorance of other cultures or events/experiences in your personal life that have led you to being a person with such bigoted views?

Like I say, this is a genuine question, I am honestly curious. And seeing as you are so openly racist on here please don't come back with a cowardly response, be truthful.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:05 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Alright calm down - Berry / Bailey its not the end of the world

Are you suggesting that all Halle's look the same?

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:18 pm

Blackrod wrote:I notice most school books now have families from different backgrounds which reflects modern society and this is a good thing. It’s important for kids to see people in books or on tv that look like them. What I think is silly is saying let’s have a black James Bond just so we can say we have had one. The books were written years ago about a public school boy who in all reality wasn’t. Same would apply to say a black William Shakespeare. It doesn’t really matter on the face if it but you are trying to rewrite or distort history. Just think of a new main character who is from an ethnic background. Plenty of examples about of good main characters from ethnic backgrounds.

I agree with what you say about William Shakespeare but why not a black Bond?
You could make it so the name is a code word for whoever is 007 and it would probably work if the actor was good enough, what I wouldn't agree with is a female James Bond as I don't think gender-switching works, as we've seen in Ghostbusters and Doctor Who.
Personally, I think they should have taken it further by having the new Ariel as a young, black LGBT boy. Now that would be "woke".

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:03 pm

Why would anyone over the age of 8 be remotely interested in this ?? Using black characters gives dream like extended publicity and virtually guarantees a huge hit . I imagine the “ black $” is a good market and add to that that 99.99999999% of people would not be put off seeing such a film because of black character

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:08 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Why are you a racist, Andy? A genuine question. Was it your upbringing, just ignorance of other cultures or events/experiences in your personal life that have led you to being a person with such bigoted views?

Like I say, this is a genuine question, I am honestly curious. And seeing as you are so openly racist on here please don't come back with a cowardly response, be truthful.

And another one.....

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:09 pm

AndyClaret wrote:The real trigger kittens are those who won't be happy until all actors are ethnics.

I'm pretty sure all actors have ethnicity.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:18 pm

AndyClaret wrote:And another one.....

I see you indeed did go for a cowardly response.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:38 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:It's not Halle Berry you dumb *****.

Who cares, she'd look good in the costume...

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:39 pm

Blackrod wrote:I notice most school books now have families from different backgrounds which reflects modern society and this is a good thing. It’s important for kids to see people in books or on tv that look like them. What I think is silly is saying let’s have a black James Bond just so we can say we have had one. The books were written years ago about a public school boy who in all reality wasn’t. Same would apply to say a black William Shakespeare. It doesn’t really matter on the face if it but you are trying to rewrite or distort history. Just think of a new main character who is from an ethnic background. Plenty of examples about of good main characters from ethnic backgrounds.

We have to put up with a white Jesus when he most certainly wasn't...

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:39 pm

He's obviously just "fishing"... obviously. So obvious that he obviously needs to take great pains to obviously show that it's just #bantz

Obviously

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:41 pm

Modern troubles

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:47 pm

Joke's on you everyone, Andy is just pretending to be a massive racist.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:59 pm

Blackrod wrote:I notice most school books now have families from different backgrounds which reflects modern society and this is a good thing. It’s important for kids to see people in books or on tv that look like them. What I think is silly is saying let’s have a black James Bond just so we can say we have had one. The books were written years ago about a public school boy who in all reality wasn’t. Same would apply to say a black William Shakespeare. It doesn’t really matter on the face if it but you are trying to rewrite or distort history. Just think of a new main character who is from an ethnic background. Plenty of examples about of good main characters from ethnic backgrounds.

There is one, very subtle difference between Shakespeare and Bond.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:00 pm

Greenmile wrote:I think you’ve misread what he said and Blackrod is actually in favour of a black Ariel.

I know. I was surprised, too.

As long as they don’t make her a lesbian he’ll be fine.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:23 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:As long as they don’t make her a lesbian he’ll be fine.

Fishy fingers!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:25 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Alright calm down - Berry / Bailey its not the end of the world

It is to ms Berry or Ms Bailey

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:30 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:We have to put up with a white Jesus when he most certainly wasn't...

In "The Greatest Story Ever Told" he was portrayed as/by a German (Max von Sydow) ...

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They even had John Wayne as the Centurion ("This man truly was the son of god, get off your horse and drink your milk, the hell he was")

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:35 pm

I think it is wrong that they don't use actual Aliens when making science fiction films....

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:06 pm

AndyClaret wrote:And another one.....

Very good. What a poor excuse for a man you are. Pitiful.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:26 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:There is one, very subtle difference between Shakespeare and Bond.

Clearly I was trying to highlight a point. You are just desperate to try and find something to criticise. What did he mean by that ? Has he said anything that sounds intolerant ?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:28 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:We have to put up with a white Jesus when he most certainly wasn't...

Yes this is a fair point. You would have thought he looked like a Palestinian but is often depicted as very Western looking unless of course he did look different.