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1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:14 pm
by mikeS
1962 Ex Clarets V Rolls Royce Barnoldswick. Who can you recognise?
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Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:31 pm
by ClaretTony
Jack Butterfield front left and the fair haired player in the dark shirt behind the woman is Arthur Woodruff. Is that Les Shannon at the back and is the keeper next to him Colin McDonald?

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:34 pm
by tim_noone
Albert tatlock stood on a box...back row.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:38 pm
by Tricky Trevor
And some Whistle Down The Wind extras.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:46 pm
by Bosscat
Tricky Trevor wrote:And some Whistle Down The Wind extras.
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Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:51 pm
by Tricky Trevor
I love Meat Loaf’s cover of that and never knew what musical it came from. Cheers.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:57 pm
by Bosscat
Tricky Trevor wrote:I love Meat Loaf’s cover of that and never knew what musical it came from. Cheers.
(Jim Steinman lyrics) Great innit

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Another great song from the musical.... Bonnie Tyler

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Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:23 pm
by tim_noone
Harry worth back left!

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:35 pm
by tim_noone
Couple of Celebrity old bill centre back posing..While Charlie peace Local villain ....right back slopes off To rob the players dressing rooms.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:37 pm
by Bosscat
tim_noone wrote:Harry worth backt left!
Was looking at the pic .... and then it dawned why he looks like Harry Worth m8 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Very good

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:42 pm
by tim_noone
Bosscat wrote:Was looking at the pic .... and then it dawned why he looks like Harry Worth m8 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Very good
:lol: Steve leaving early as he did back right!

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:19 pm
by FCBurnley
Harold Mather next to Jack Butterfield ?

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:21 pm
by ClaretTony
FCBurnley wrote:Harold Mather next to Jack Butterfield ?
And is that a young looking George Bray one step behind and between Butterfield and Mather? The head behind Mather, is that possibly Attwell?

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:35 pm
by wilks_bfc
Is the beauty queen wearing footy boots?

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:42 pm
by FCBurnley
ClaretTony wrote:And is that a young looking George Bray one step behind and between Butterfield and Mather? The head behind Mather, is that possibly Attwell?
Pretty sure it is George Bray but not sure about Attwell. I thought the guy next to Les Shannon could have been Attwell but not certain in either case

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:03 pm
by ClaretTony
FCBurnley wrote:Pretty sure it is George Bray but not sure about Attwell. I thought the guy next to Les Shannon could have been Attwell but not certain in either case
The only pic I have of Attwell is this one
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Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:17 pm
by Royboyclaret
What a superb photo. A friend of mine, Tommy Willighan, who played for the Ex-Clarets around that time will not be happy with me not being able to name them all.

Definitely Les Shannon and Colin McDonald on the back row and I think Reg Attwell is next to Les. Then Arthur Woodruff at the end with I think David Cargill next to him and then perhaps Len Martindale.

Then definitely Jack Butterfield and Harold Mather at the front and probably George Bray in behind them. The only doubt I have there is that if the photo is 1962 then George would have been 44 years old at that time and he looks a very young 44 if that's the case.

Anyway, sure MikeS will put us all right.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:54 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Royboyclaret wrote:The only doubt I have there is that if the photo is 1962 then George would have been 44 years old at that time and he looks a very young 44 if that's the case.
Colin McDonald,although injured in 1959, was, according to wiki, on our books until 1961. As it's ex-Clarets it might not be so far wrong.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:04 pm
by AlargeClaret
Royboyclaret wrote:What a superb photo. A friend of mine, Tommy Willighan, who played for the Ex-Clarets around that time will not be happy with me not being able to name them all.

Definitely Les Shannon and Colin McDonald on the back row and I think Reg Attwell is next to Les. Then Arthur Woodruff at the end with I think David Cargill next to him and then perhaps Len Martindale.

Then definitely Jack Butterfield and Harold Mather at the front and probably George Bray in behind them. The only doubt I have there is that if the photo is 1962 then George would have been 44 years old at that time and he looks a very young 44 if that's the case.

Anyway, sure MikeS will put us all right.
The beauty queen has a 1962 sash on ( no pedantary intended )

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:10 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote:and probably George Bray in behind them. The only doubt I have there is that if the photo is 1962 then George would have been 44 years old at that time and he looks a very young 44 if that's the case.

Anyway, sure MikeS will put us all right.
Born on the 11th day of the 11th month, he was very young looking if that's George. I'm beginning to seriously doubt it's him now.

As for Attwell, are you meaning the one to the left of Les Shannon as you look at the picture?

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:16 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote:Born on the 11th day of the 11th month, he was very young looking if that's George. I'm beginning to seriously doubt it's him now.

As for Attwell, are you meaning the one to the left of Les Shannon as you look at the picture?
Agree with you re age but still there's a very strong resemblance.

Yes, to the left of Shannon as you look at the photo. Colin Mc on the other side.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:19 pm
by FCBurnley
Like CT i am not thinking it is George Bray. Photo must be 62 at the earliest because of the date on the sash. Who ever it is he had a hell of a quiff going on

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:24 pm
by Greenmile
AlargeClaret wrote:The beauty queen has a 1962 sash on ( no pedantary intended )
*pedantry

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:24 pm
by Royboyclaret
Also Tony, we really should know the player directly behind Jack Butterfield, his face is very familiar but for the life of me can't put a name to him.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by ClaretTony
FCBurnley wrote:Like CT i am not thinking it is George Bray. Photo must be 62 at the earliest because of the date on the sash. Who ever it is he had a hell of a quiff going on
Had a long look at this pic now and it is definitely not George.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:26 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote:Also Tony, we really should know the player directly behind Jack Butterfield, his face is very familiar but for the life of me can't put a name to him.
These players are all before my time. I recognised Butterfield because of his being at the club as commercial manager and I easily recognised Woodruff and Shannon. But some of the others, I've no idea.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:31 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote:Had a long look at this pic now and it is definitely not George.
I take your point......Someone posted a photo on here last week of Adamson and Bray welcoming the players back to training for the 1969/70 season. The difference in looks over those 7 years is just too stark.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:33 pm
by ClaretTony
George wouldn't have looked like that at 43 I don't think

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:36 pm
by Royboyclaret
Colin McDonald would have been 31 in that photo in '62. How fantastic to see him in your photo on here of him just last season with all our other England keepers.

Can you repeat the photo on this thread, Tony?

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:39 pm
by Bfc
The player in front of Les Shannon is Gordon Haigh. I think the player partially hidden is Les Samual.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:56 pm
by Dark Cloud
Guest appearance from Albert Steptoe. Nice of him to make the effort. (or is it his Burnley brother Shapcot!!?)

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:15 pm
by Clarets4me
wilks_bfc wrote:Is the beauty queen wearing footy boots?
Ceremonial kick-off, then back to the Court shoes, I suspect ! :D

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:26 pm
by Tricky Trevor
ClaretTony wrote:George wouldn't have looked like that at 43 I don't think
In “The Complete Clarets Collection” there is a photo of the ‘47 Cup Final team.
George Bray, third from right back row, is on it but Jack Billingham, third from left front row, has the identical quiff to our mystery man.
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Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:42 pm
by Better Call Saul
That must be Mick Roberts on the front row far right in the R.R. team.
One of 3 Roberts brothers along with Garry & Malcolm who worked at R.R. all their life's.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:59 am
by Bfc
The player stood behind Butterfield and Mather, maybe Michael Hennigan, who played mostly in the A team and left to join Nelson fc, who around the time had a number of ex Clarets who played for them and if my memories right Harold also managed them. Hennigan for many years was a milkman covering Fulledge and Brunshaw.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:22 am
by Bfc
Royboy, give me a hand with this one. The man standing in the crowd at the back with the trilby on. Is it Harold Spencer?.
Look at the bloke to his right with something in his mouth, he’s chewing on. One of the kids has a look of Gordon Haighs son.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:41 am
by AlargeClaret
Greenmile wrote:*pedantry
Lol very good

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:46 pm
by BB8
mikeS wrote:1962 Ex Clarets V Rolls Royce Barnoldswick. Who can you recognise?
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I recognise my dad (just in front of Colin McDonald, to the right) and my uncle (front right) - both of whom played for the Rolls-Royce team.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:02 pm
by claretfern
Bfc wrote:Royboy, give me a hand with this one. The man standing in the crowd at the back with the trilby on. Is it Harold Spencer?.
Look at the bloke to his right with something in his mouth, he’s chewing on. One of the kids has a look of Gordon Haighs son.
Not Harold Spencer, probably Bob Johnson ??

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 am
by Bfc
Thanks claretfern, i think your right.

Re: 1962 Ex Clarets v Rolls Royce

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:30 am
by rockyman
First time poster here, no I'm not connected to the 'Rocky' but just happen to come from Rawtenstall, hence the name rockyman, I attended a number of these ex clarets games in the early/mid sixties,including ones at Peel Park, dark lane and Seedhill, the players I always remember playing were jack Chew and Bill Holden, is that Jack Chew directly behind Jack Butterfield and could that be Bill Holden who is partially hidden behind Harold Mather. As an aside anybody remember the strip the ex clarets wore, I'm sure it was Royal blue shirt and claret shorts, unusual at the time.