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(not) kicking the ball out of play.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:31 pm
by LeadBelly
I like this move by Brizzle - they've written to other clubs in the Championship outlining that they wont be deliberately kicking the ball out for opposition players on the deck- unless it's an obvious head injury (in which case the ref should halt the game).
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ut-of-play


“It’s fine. We sent an email out to the clubs because this happens often,” Johnson said. “Somebody goes down and sometimes it’s tactical, because people try and gain an advantage and sometimes it’s genuine.

“So we just decided as a club that we’re going to make a rule for the 46 games that we’re going to let the referee manage the game. So therefore if that’s our player injured or the opposition player injured, there’s a consistency there.”

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:39 pm
by South West Claret.
Seems fair enough.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:55 pm
by bfcjg
Totally agree it's getting to the stage that the ball is kicked out if a players hair gets ruffled.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:04 pm
by TheOriginalLongsider
Agreed

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:25 pm
by turfytopper
should be managed by the ref. Good move.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:29 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Brilliant. More often than not it is to disrupt play. The biggest load of nonsense that ever came in to British football.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:32 pm
by Falcon
Fair play. We should all play to the whistle anyway but now it's unequivocal.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:43 pm
by Dyched
You just know a Bristol City player will be badly injured and their opponents play on and score. Bound to happen.


I am all for this mind. Surprised Pep doesn’t use this dirty tactic more.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:51 pm
by skibum84
Great move by Bristol City. Its got to the point in the premier league where the play gets stopped if a player off the edge of the pitch is injured. PLAY ON!!

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:54 pm
by bfccrazy
Dyched wrote:You just know a Bristol City player will be badly injured and their opponents play on and score. Bound to happen.


I am all for this mind. Surprised Pep doesn’t use this dirty tactic more.
Very “clever” with their fouls are Pep teams.

Will foil an opposition player on the break around the half way line which means the fouling player probably won’t get a card and gives the defending team time to regroup and not get caught out. They are masters of it at City now and it’s a disgrace that players that good should have to stoop to those levels to gain an advantage.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:22 pm
by dougcollins
bfccrazy wrote:Very “clever” with their fouls are Pep teams.

Will foil an opposition player on the break around the half way line which means the fouling player probably won’t get a card and gives the defending team time to regroup and not get caught out. They are masters of it at City now and it’s a disgrace that players that good should have to stoop to those levels to gain an advantage.

I think your words 'on the break' make that a bookable offence, so it's poor work from the ref if they escape a booking.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:30 pm
by California Colner
Step in the right direction.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:35 pm
by bfccrazy
dougcollins wrote:I think your words 'on the break' make that a bookable offence, so it's poor work from the ref if they escape a booking.
As a fan it is “on the break” where you can see the chance of pushing up the pitch. The “skill” City have is stopping it before it actually develops into pushing on up the pitch. Have a watch of City and see where they foul players in the opposition half after losing the ball or just as a break will happen .... a ref will look at it as not being a big chance as it’s so early so usually escapes anything other than a free kick being given.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:41 pm
by bfccrazy
dougcollins wrote:I think your words 'on the break' make that a bookable offence, so it's poor work from the ref if they escape a booking.
https://youtu.be/rq2guhCgOaI

This explains it much better - Sterling didn’t it at Turf last season when they played us.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:08 pm
by Rick_Muller
bfccrazy wrote:https://youtu.be/rq2guhCgOaI

This explains it much better - Sterling didn’t it at Turf last season when they played us.
That’s a really good explanation. To counter their tactical fouling I would encourage tactical injuring, as in if you’re the player being tactically fouled you need to do what you can to make it hurt the player fouling you. Human nature means they would stop, or go off injured and call us dirty, which is what they do anyway :D

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:21 pm
by basil6345789
bfcjg wrote:Totally agree it's getting to the stage that the ball is kicked out if a players hair gets ruffled.
Or his tw** knot comes undone.

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:52 pm
by Funkydrummer
This is what can happen when the ball isn't kicked out.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:34 am
by tarkys_ears
Good. Everyone should make this statement as it drives me mad, not least of all because players are usually faking it when play is stopped.

All the clubs have now been warned by they'll not be stopping so there can be no arguments.

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:13 am
by LeadBelly
This is what can happen when the ball isn't kicked out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAxqig6GQE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite a to-do that Funkydrummer. This happened because of uncertainty/incorrect assumptions. The Villa players stopped defending properly on the (false) assumption that Leeds would stop play; they wouldnt assume that if it was pre-stipulated by Leeds that they wouldnt be doing that - then no problems because everybody knows what to expect.

It'd be good to see the number of "down and rolling in agony with a minor knock" incidents cut significantly. Rugby players manage to play on after major collisions because they know their team will be a man down if they roll about on the floor, no reason footy players cant do the same.