With Calum Chambers playing in the centre of defence for Arsenal who would ever have thought we'd have far better players (at least one) than the likes of Arsenal in certain positions.

Shows how far we've come in the last decade at least.

If you assume Tarkowski is better than Chambers then yes.

jrgbfc wrote:If you assume Tarkowski is better than Chambers then yes.

Good grief, quite incredible.

We've had a better defence than Arsenal for about 10 years to be fair...

Accy Stanley have a better defence than Arsenal.

Chambers is a Championship level footballer. Funnily enough, Tarkowski being better than him isn’t actually an achievement.

jrgbfc wrote:If you assume Tarkowski is better than Chambers then yes.

If you are going to try and play devil's advocate, at least 1/100 people would have to be able to agree with you.

Failed miserably there

ZizkovClaret wrote:If you are going to try and play devil's advocate, at least 1/100 people would have to be able to agree with you.

Failed miserably there

That is the problem though, if you find yourself typing negative nonsense most the time then it becomes a habit and you type stupid comments like that. He isn't on his own though on here.

ZizkovClaret wrote:If you are going to try and play devil's advocate, at least 1/100 people would have to be able to agree with you.

Failed miserably there

I'm not saying Tarkowski isn't better. Just that the way we play makes all our defenders look better. I reckon if you put any average Premier league centre half into our team they'd look outstanding.

jrgbfc wrote:If you assume Tarkowski is better than Chambers then yes.

Your statement suggested you believed there was anyone outside of the Chambers family who might believe that Tarks isnt a better player....

Utter hogwash

we probably have a better keeper than them as well but then again we may have a better keeper than anyone in the prem. I think Pope is that good.

jrgbfc wrote:I'm not saying Tarkowski isn't better. Just that the way we play makes all our defenders look better. I reckon if you put any average Premier league centre half into our team they'd look outstanding.

definitely an element of that in our team and I agree with you on that. For me I think Tarks has potential but could be exposed at a top team where defensive players will often be exposed more than at Burnley. Keene certainly took time to find his feet at Everton.

Nothing wrong with Calum Chambers. He's a decent Premier League player.

Tarkowski is the better defender but Chambers is the better distributor.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:That is the problem though, if you find yourself typing negative nonsense most the time then it becomes a habit and you type stupid comments like that. He isn't on his own though on here.

Do you have anything to add in terms of the topic?

Tarks is a cracking defender but he will have to curb that diving in at the edge of the box ; it cost him his England place and damn near let Southampton in on Saturday.

ksrclaret wrote:Do you have anything to add in terms of the topic?

For you ? Nope, knock yourself out

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:For you ? Nope, knock yourself out

Odd to comment on a thread if you have no intention of adding any of your own contributions to the topic.

It's not very fair to constantly have a go at other's people contributions when you're not prepared to offer any yourself.

ksrclaret wrote:Odd to comment on a thread if you have no intention of adding any of your own contributions to the topic.

It's not very fair to constantly have a go at other's people contributions when you're not prepared to offer any yourself.

Yet still you felt the urge/need to contact me directly. Just skip past my posts love

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Yet still you felt the urge/need to contact me directly. Just skip past my posts love

Okay, well I tried to get you involved in the debate. If simply sniping at everyone else and makes you happy then you crack on, 'love'.

ZizkovClaret wrote:Your statement suggested you believed there was anyone outside of the Chambers family who might believe that Tarks isnt a better player....

Utter hogwash

Maybe I worded it wrongly. If you asked most neutrals I bet a lot would tell you there wasn't much between Tarkowski and Chambers. On here a lot of people view everything through ridiculous claret tinted specs. Tarkowski is no more than a good steady, Premier league defender yet some folk on here talk about him as though he's the second coming of Franz Beckenbauher.

we've to watch Chambers, he has a habit against us

Vegas Claret wrote:we've to watch Chambers, he has a habit against us

Nearly scored against us on the Turf for Fulham too, had a header that hit the bar.

jrgbfc wrote:Maybe I worded it wrongly. If you asked most neutrals I bet a lot would tell you there wasn't much between Tarkowski and Chambers. On here a lot of people view everything through ridiculous claret tinted specs. Tarkowski is no more than a good steady, Premier league defender yet some folk on here talk about him as though he's the second coming of Franz Beckenbauher.

I'd say most neutrals would say Tarkowski is by far the better defender. When discussing the Maguire transfer only two defenders came up as an alternative for Man U. when many thought the £80 million fee was too high - Nathan Ake & James Tarkowski.

Calum Chambers was never even mentioned as a good alternative if the Maguire transfer fell though.

In addition, no Leicester city supporters contemplated the idea of him playing for them either.

Edit: That's based on reading their supporters forums Redcafe & Foxestalk.

ksrclaret wrote:Nothing wrong with Calum Chambers. He's a decent Premier League player.

Tarkowski is the better defender but Chambers is the better distributor.

That’s Arsenals problem. They sign good footballers, we sign good defenders.

Spijed wrote:I'd say most neutrals would say Tarkowski is by far the better defender. When discussing the Maguire transfer only two defenders came up as an alternative for Man U. when many thought the £80 million fee was too high - Nathan Ake & James Tarkowski.

Calum Chambers was never even mentioned as a good alternative if the Maguire transfer fell though.

In addition, no Leicester city supporters contemplated the idea of him playing for them either.

Edit: That's based on reading their supporters forums Redcafe & Foxestalk.

Maybe because Leicester don't expect to sign players from Arsenal's first XI?

Both players are good fit for their respective clubs - neither would work if you swapped them.

I'd say Tarkowski has the better defensive attributes - playing for a team who are generally set-up to defend. Chambers is better with the ball - playing for a team who are generally set-up to attack.

A Tarkowski-type player could be a real asset for Arsenal but it would require a shift in their overall approach and philosophy. Conversely it's difficult to envisage a Chambers-like player being effective in Dyche-era Burnley

EarbyClaret wrote:Both players are good fit for their respective clubs - neither would work if you swapped them.

A Tarkowski-type player could be a real asset for Arsenal but it would require a shift in their overall approach and philosophy. Conversely it's difficult to envisage a Chambers-like player being effective in Dyche-era Burnley

That Mavropanos lad looked more like an old fashioned centre back. No nonsense type of defender

dandeclaret wrote:Maybe because Leicester don't expect to sign players from Arsenal's first XI?

At that point hadn’t he just come off a season-long loan at a relegated club?