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E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:33 pm
by tim_noone
What's with all these Adults Blowing big plumes of Smoke up into the Air or out the car windows at traffic lights and junctions etc? Is enjoyment gained by them getting the Biggest cloud ...a bit like Kids get with Bubbles or is there something else going on?

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:53 pm
by basil6345789
Carcinagenic, stay clear.

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:55 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Puff the magic dickhead

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:05 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
They all look ridiculous. Like big babies. And the stuff is probably much worse for you than tobacco.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:08 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
They believe it helps them quit and will be less harmful, but there's very little knowledge about long-term effects etc.
If someone really wanted to quit smoking then they wouldn't vape.

Kids also use them because they seem to think it's cool :roll:

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:51 pm
by Wile E Coyote
cobblers, NHS advocates them as a substitute , also I packed in smoking with e -cig 18 months ago.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:14 pm
by mkmel
If they are driving and not just passengers then surely they are not being in complete control of the car and should be prosecuted

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:20 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Story on fb today about a Texan lad whos’ lungs stopped functioning because of the chemical mixture he was inhaling. Could be total ******** but I wouldn’t write it off. Far too soon for saying these things are safe.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:19 pm
by ClaretAndJew
Putting anything into your lungs other than what's needed isn't good for you.

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:32 pm
by ReddishClaret
If you don't use them why bother? You breathe in diesel & petrol fumes and aircraft fuel still has lead in it!

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:57 pm
by tarkys_ears
Smoke cigs. Taste awesome and make you look cool!

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:14 pm
by dushanbe
Douche flutes

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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:18 pm
by Bosscat
tim_noone wrote:What's with all these Adults Blowing big plumes of Smoke up into the Air or out the car windows at traffic lights and junctions etc? Is enjoyment gained by them getting the Biggest cloud ...a bit like Kids get with Bubbles or is there something else going on?
Were you following the same one we were through Barrowford at about 4.45pm Tim :lol: :lol: :lol:

Every few seconds a huge plume of noxious vapour exuded the car in front and all we could smell was bloody pear drops ffs in ours :lol: :lol: :lol:

God help them in the future it must be rotting their lungs as much as smoking Cigarettes

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:23 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
mkmel wrote:If they are driving and not just passengers then surely they are not being in complete control of the car and should be prosecuted
Smoking is the one thing they're refusing to ban people from doing whilst driving yet it's the most common thing you see driver's doing....

Most be some money somewhere making sure that law is never made.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:24 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Wile E Coyote wrote:cobblers, NHS advocates them as a substitute , also I packed in smoking with e -cig 18 months ago.
Yeah and many moons ago smoking was classed as good for you.

The NHS shouldn't be advocating e-cigs because they haven't got a clue about long term effects.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:34 pm
by tim_noone
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Smoking is the one thing they're refusing to ban people from doing whilst driving yet it's the most common thing you see driver's doing....

Most be some money somewhere making sure that law is never made.
Tbh using mobile phones along with eating and picking their nose is the most common thing you see drivers doing at the wheel. :shock:

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:25 am
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Yeah and many moons ago smoking was classed as good for you.

The NHS shouldn't be advocating e-cigs because they haven't got a clue about long term effects.
How do you know the NHS don’t have a clue about the long term effects?

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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:31 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:How do you know the NHS don’t have a clue about the long term effects?
Simply because they haven't been that popular for long enough, so unless you're considering approx 10 years or so long term, then no one really knows.

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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:53 am
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Simply because they haven't been that popular for long enough, so unless you're considering approx 10 years or so long term, then no one really knows.
Unless the medical industry have ways of simulating long-term usage of a product to analyse its effects.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:28 pm
by Bosscat
For the Vapers out there

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321960.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:15 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
New legislation is due to come out this year or next.

Wont be long before theyre clamped down on. They arent even bloody regulated.

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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:25 pm
by TheFamilyCat
tim_noone wrote:Tbh using mobile phones along with eating and picking their nose is the most common thing you see drivers doing at the wheel. :shock:
To be fair, driving is the thing you most commonly see them doing. Not always driving well though, it has to be said.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:52 pm
by Hipper
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... g-disaster" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

As this is a relatively new industry it is a bit disappointing that the companies concerned haven't looked into the recycling aspect.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:40 am
by JohnMac
In the top two of my 'pet hates' currently, alongside this generation of hands down shorts/tracksuit bottoms fondling themself in public.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:25 am
by tim_noone
JohnMac wrote:In the top two of my 'pet hates' currently, alongside this generation of hands down shorts/tracksuit bottoms fondling themself in public.
It's not only this generation ....agreed wtf is that all about!!

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:30 am
by ClaretDiver
Even worse when walking down the street behind one of them you get a full face of it!!!

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:35 pm
by basil6345789
cricketfieldclarets wrote:New legislation is due to come out this year or next.

Wont be long before theyre clamped down on. They arent even bloody regulated.
Frightening - most of the chemicals (usually anti-freeze, etc), come from China. They know how to sell you crap and not care. Same for their tattoo inks, as I keep saying.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:40 pm
by Bosscat
Its not just the sh1t chemicals in them or the disgusting smell...

How many have exploded etc or set on fire when recharging the batteries.....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... h-44161348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:55 am
by ClaretDiver
basil6345789 wrote:Frightening - most of the chemicals (usually anti-freeze, etc), come from China. They know how to sell you crap and not care. Same for their tattoo inks, as I keep saying.
Tattoo inks from China are a major issue!

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:35 am
by Im_not_Robbie_Blake
They should make a farting noise when the clouds of smoke billow forth. That would be fun.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:10 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... ve-deaths/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:23 pm
by theroyaldyche
Fumes dont affect the non smoker too much
It affects their lungs like fags do

Leave em to it.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:34 pm
by Damo
Makes me laugh when people say they have given up smoking, when all they have done is swapped fags for vaping.
Another thing with people who use these, is that they never seem to have them out of their mouths. It cant be any better for you when they cant string a sentence together without having a mid sentence blast

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:39 pm
by Bosscat
THC's (found in cannabis) are the problem in these Yank E-cigs ....... some brightspark invented a druggie version and its killing people

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:39 pm
by Wile E Coyote
Damo wrote:Makes me laugh when people say they have given up smoking, when all they have done is swapped fags for vaping.
Another thing with people who use these, is that they never seem to have them out of their mouths. It cant be any better for you when they cant string a sentence together without having a mid sentence blast
its great to read what the smug, and righteous say about other people.

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:46 pm
by SammyBoy
Wile E Coyote wrote:its great to read what the smug, and righteous say about other people.
This thread suggests to me that there’s nothing more satisfying than pointing out the shortcomings of others.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:47 pm
by evensteadiereddie
It is, Wile E.
Those vaping morons deserve all the stick they get. Ooooh, you can get strawberry and bubble-gum flavour, you know. :roll:
*****, the lot of 'em.

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:57 pm
by Wile E Coyote
sounds like there's a few vegetarian jogging types on here, the ones forever looking at their expensive watches checking their PB times.
Dull as ditchwater and doubtless office bores.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:51 pm
by tim_noone
evensteadiereddie wrote:It is, Wile E.
Those vaping morons deserve all the stick they get. Ooooh, you can get strawberry and bubble-gum flavour, you know. :roll:
*****, the lot of 'em.
:lol: :lol:

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:04 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
People, quite rightly become aware of the risks from smoking related to cancer and heart disease but COPD is also a killer. Breathing anything in other than fresh air into your lungs can result in some form of COPD, I can't believe vaping would be any different.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:31 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Wile E Coyote wrote:sounds like there's a few vegetarian jogging types on here, the ones forever looking at their expensive watches checking their PB times.
Dull as ditchwater and doubtless office bores.
I'm definitely not a veggie and I'm not a running type either.
Nor do I work in an office anymore.
I've never smoked either.

I do however think that smoking is for idiots and vaping makes people look like a idiot.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:38 pm
by 1fatclaret
Wile E Coyote wrote:cobblers, NHS advocates them as a substitute , also I packed in smoking with e -cig 18 months ago.
NHS also advocates nicotine patches, gums and liquids, although the success rates are abysmal.

You still on the E-cigs?

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:03 pm
by Culmclaret
I chair a county tobacco control alliance. The advice of our consultant lung specialist is that is far too early to say that e cigarettes are significantly safer than tobacco. His view is that they are likely to be safer than smoking tobacco but not that much. As others have suggested, taking hot chemicals into your lungs is unlikely to be beneficial

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:11 pm
by bfccrazy
I smoke cigarettes yet refuse to puff away at an ecig.

Since the first ones I saw years ago had the little “poison” signs on the bottle which said “if ingested then seek medical help immediately” - So if you can’t drink this stuff and it’s that bad for your body then breathing it in can’t be all too good.

For me it’s a “better the devil you know” kind of attitude to smoking a cigarette. I know the risks and choose to do it anyway which I guess is more fool me.

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:21 pm
by Wile E Coyote
forget the clowns who are on their high horses because they have never been addicted , its been proven that around 3 million have quit ciggys using e-cigs.
Granted, they may not be safe, and time will tell, but the NHS advocate them as a viable alternative. They back up their decision to do so by stating tests have been carried out , and the risks are way lower than tobacco. I can see its best not to do either, but it does seem a better option to vape if it gets someone of the fags.

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:40 pm
by ClaretAndJew
I always thoughts that an E Cig was a sort of "weaning off" device after cigarettes. You stop cigarettes completely then go to the e Cig then onto nothing at all.

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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:52 pm
by Swizzlestick
E-cigs helped me quit proper cigarettes. Then weaned down to being totally nicotine free. When used properly, they can be a very effective stop smoking aid.

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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:02 am
by Wile E Coyote
ClaretAndJew wrote:I always thoughts that an E Cig was a sort of "weaning off" device after cigarettes. You stop cigarettes completely then go to the e Cig then onto nothing at all.

For a lot of people they do work like that, the nicotine itself is addictive, therefore the available liquids come in different strengths.
It is supposedly preferable to gradually reduce the nicotine level until it stops any cravings. clearly many continue on the higher strength stuff because its a hard habit to break.

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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:03 am
by CoolClaret
Bosscat wrote:THC's (found in cannabis) are the problem in these Yank E-cigs ....... some brightspark invented a druggie version and its killing people
Erm, it's practically impossible to overdose off THC, you'd need to smoke/eat an absolute stupid amount of weed

Re: E Cigs

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:52 am
by Rick_Muller
Worth a watch...

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