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Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:50 am
by Tricky Trevor
Wondered whether folk think Grosicki would have been worth the extra million?
For me football has plenty of gamblers, boozers, druggies and wife beaters. We might have a few of our own. He looks exciting every time I see him and I wish we’d taken the risk.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:01 am
by MACCA
Its not just about the money, it's the lifestyle he leads and the effect that or he could have on the group.

As seen with DD, it's just as important how you are off the field as you are on it.

If you're in debt to the tune of 1m , as a relatively unknown footballer, it doesn't sound too good.
With strict gambling rules over here etc, and how easy it is to spiral out if control, I'm glad we didnt risk it.

I'd say moving countries, on better money, with more a lone time, and not many people around you and possibly even a language barrier isn't a great recipe for a gambling addict.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:19 pm
by Claretmatt4
I'd forgotten about him.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:00 pm
by Paul Waine
Tricky Trevor wrote:Wondered whether folk think Grosicki would have been worth the extra million?
For me football has plenty of gamblers, boozers, druggies and wife beaters. We might have a few of our own. He looks exciting every time I see him and I wish we’d taken the risk.
Wasn't the issue (one of the issues) that the selling club thought Burnley would take over responsibility for Grosicki's gambling debts? That doesn't sit well with Sean Dyche's "he's an adult, he knows what he needs to do..... (or similar words).

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:34 pm
by Archer
Tricky Trevor wrote:Wondered whether folk think Grosicki would have been worth the extra million?
For me football has plenty of gamblers, boozers, druggies and wife beaters. We might have a few of our own. He looks exciting every time I see him and I wish we’d taken the risk.
Down near the bottom of the Championship? I think McNeill, Brady, JBG and Hendrick are doing better.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:58 pm
by Longsidebovril
Comment I saw from a Hull fan was that he must be the only Pole in England without a work ethic!

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:11 pm
by ClaretTony
Paul Waine wrote:Wasn't the issue (one of the issues) that the selling club thought Burnley would take over responsibility for Grosicki's gambling debts? That doesn't sit well with Sean Dyche's "he's an adult, he knows what he needs to do..... (or similar words).
I think that’s about right. Believe it was Dyche who pulled the plug on it.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:18 pm
by evensteadiereddie
He's an ordinary Championship player, that's all.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:20 pm
by FactualFrank
Ability wise, would be in the Premier League. He just can't be arsed.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:39 pm
by Vegas Claret
if we had an extra 30 quid we could have signed David Reeves

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:40 pm
by CombatClaret
I look around at some ofthe players we were actively negotiating for and many here moaned that we should have stumped up a few more million to get over the line eg:
Grosicki
Andone
Adams
When you see what they're doing now I find myself quite happy with our sensible recruitment.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:30 pm
by Hipper
Clucas?

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:39 pm
by jdrobbo
There’s only one player at Hull that I’ve wanted and his surname rhymes with Owen!!! Amazed he wasn’t bought by anyone in the summer.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:42 pm
by Goody1975
jdrobbo wrote:There’s only one player at Hull that I’ve wanted and his surname rhymes with Owen!!! Amazed he wasn’t bought by anyone in the summer.
Not Robertson then?

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:14 pm
by ClaretTony
CombatClaret wrote:I look around at some ofthe players we were actively negotiating for and many here moaned that we should have stumped up a few more million to get over the line eg:
Grosicki
Andone
Adams
When you see what they're doing now I find myself quite happy with our sensible recruitment.
Spoke to some Brighton fans yesterday about Andone. They weren’t sorry to see him go out on loan for the season.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:33 am
by dsr
Tricky Trevor wrote:Wondered whether folk think Grosicki would have been worth the extra million?
For me football has plenty of gamblers, boozers, druggies and wife beaters. We might have a few of our own. He looks exciting every time I see him and I wish we’d taken the risk.
Wasn't part of it that the deal was about to be done and then someone upped the price by £1m? As I understood it, there was a strong desire by both Board and manager that Burnley shouldn't become known as a soft touch who can be taken to the cleaners.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:23 am
by ClaretTony
dsr wrote:Wasn't part of it that the deal was about to be done and then someone upped the price by £1m? As I understood it, there was a strong desire by both Board and manager that Burnley shouldn't become known as a soft touch who can be taken to the cleaners.
It was close to being done but then his club wanted us to take on his substantial gambling debts. Nothing I know of regarding the price being upped and weren't the debts considerably more than a million? From what I was told, the chairman was happy to push the deal through, Dyche said no.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:28 am
by Bosscat
ClaretTony wrote:It was close to being done but then his club wanted us to take on his substantial gambling debts. Nothing I know of regarding the price being upped and weren't the debts considerably more than a million? From what I was told, the chairman was happy to push the deal through, Dyche said no.
I thought it was Mike Garlick that pulled the plug at the 11th hour Tony? Doesn't really matter its history

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:57 am
by dsr
ClaretTony wrote:It was close to being done but then his club wanted us to take on his substantial gambling debts. Nothing I know of regarding the price being upped and weren't the debts considerably more than a million? From what I was told, the chairman was happy to push the deal through, Dyche said no.
Maybe. Either way, the cost to Burnley FC had been agreed and then went up at the eleventh hour.

Re: Grosicki?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:29 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:I thought it was Mike Garlick that pulled the plug at the 11th hour Tony? Doesn't really matter its history
Not from what I was told but it’s well in the past now. Wasn’t it 2016?