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David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:29 pm
by CaptainKirk
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but what is this guy thinking?
Whatever his reasons for doing so - good, bad or unknown - he was responsible for the Referendum being held. As soon as the decision went against him he spat his dummy out and went off to live on his tax payer funded pension for the rest of his life.
At least he seemed to have the sense or good grace to keep quiet while the Country fell into turmoil (whatever your views) over the last 2 years.
But no, with obviously deliberate timing, he is now pushing his grubby little book on us to make himself even more money while Rome burns (including using his poor son to help flesh it out a bit).
Has the man no shame?

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:31 pm
by summitclaret
He has misjudged matters again and what was no doubt an attempt to undermine Boris will backfire in the next GE.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:36 pm
by martin_p
Do you think he foresaw the extension of article 50 and planned his book release for September on that basis?

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:40 pm
by Bosscat
W****r

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:49 pm
by Aclaret
Bosscat wrote:W****r
Winner ?

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:50 pm
by Spijed
summitclaret wrote:He has misjudged matters again and what was no doubt an attempt to undermine Boris will backfire in the next GE.
Backfire?

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:59 pm
by Bosscat
Aclaret wrote:Winner ?
It has an 'n' in it 3rd letter ... & sounds like someone who looks after your money :D :D :D

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:01 pm
by bobinho
The EU and their absolute refusal to budge even a tiny bit on anything are responsible for the referendum being held leading to Brexit.

Cameron gambled in winning it only after they refused to budge. At the time, Farage and UKIP were doing very well, taking voters away from Cameron and the tories so I suspect he was trying to do something about that.

I also suspect there will be plenty of people in Europe thinking they should’ve budged a little rather than risk brexit. It’s backfired for them just like it did for Cameron. They never thought it possible.

It still might not be.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:05 pm
by dsr
Bosscat wrote:It has an 'n' in it 3rd letter ... & sounds like someone who looks after your money :D :D :D
He certainly knows how to look after our money. He looks after £115,000 each year as a tax free "allowance" to help him pay secretaries etc. - I dare say he used them to type his book.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:11 pm
by LeadBelly
I doubt his book will be a success for the publisher, I hope not anyway.

I'm glad we had a referendum but I think he's a creep and doesn't really have any redeeming features. Ive no interest in hearing anything further from him about any subject (same for Blair) & hope all book buyers feel the same.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:15 pm
by Claret
Relevant article in Daily Mash:
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Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:16 pm
by Claret
Another Daily Mash article begins...
"Choosing to manifest himself in human form, David Cameron said......."
:-D

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:41 pm
by Stayingup
CaptainKirk wrote:Sorry if this has been mentioned before but what is this guy thinking?
Whatever his reasons for doing so - good, bad or unknown - he was responsible for the Referendum being held. As soon as the decision went against him he spat his dummy out and went off to live on his tax payer funded pension for the rest of his life.
At least he seemed to have the sense or good grace to keep quiet while the Country fell into turmoil (whatever your views) over the last 2 years.
But no, with obviously deliberate timing, he is now pushing his grubby little book on us to make himself even more money while Rome burns (including using his poor son to help flesh it out a bit).
Has the man no shame?
He's had family money to do the heavy lfting for him. No idea whatsoever about life outside his guilded enclosure and Westminster. One of his classics to me was when he disfuarded his £80 wellies to buy some cheap ones to.come and visit some flooded areas in 'The North'.
Ranks alongside May - almost - as one of the worst ever Tory PM's.

Foreign Aid Budget. Fixed as a % age of GDP. Not going into the rights or wrongs of Aid at all but the money would mean nothing to him. HS2. Another of his vanity projects and still I wait for my road to be re-surfaced after 42 years.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:44 pm
by Tricky Trevor
He had promised the referendum in the manifesto, to keep his loony right happy.
If he had put any graft into the campaign it would have been won but like those who sat on their arses and didn’t bother voting it was a cockup from start to finish.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:47 pm
by PictoPirate
bobinho wrote:The EU and their absolute refusal to budge even a tiny bit on anything are responsible for the referendum being held leading to Brexit.

Cameron gambled in winning it only after they refused to budge. At the time, Farage and UKIP were doing very well, taking voters away from Cameron and the tories so I suspect he was trying to do something about that.

I also suspect there will be plenty of people in Europe thinking they should’ve budged a little rather than risk brexit. It’s backfired for them just like it did for Cameron. They never thought it possible.

It still might not be.
[Citation Needed]

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:49 pm
by SalisburyClaret
His legacy is already assured as the most incompetent Prime Minister ever

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:55 pm
by Rowls
CaptainKirk wrote:But no, with obviously deliberate timing, he is now pushing his grubby little book on us to make himself even more money while Rome burns (including using his poor son to help flesh it out a bit).
Has the man no shame?
This is genuinely one of the most disgusting posts ever on here.

“Has the man no shame?” you ask. You clearly have no sense of irony to go with your callous lack of taste.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:15 pm
by Lancasterclaret
He's pretty much admitted that he should have never called the referendum today.

Cheers Dave!

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:24 pm
by Rick_Muller
SalisburyClaret wrote:His legacy is already assured as the most incompetent Prime Minister ever
so far...

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:48 pm
by Hipper
I think he had little choice but to call a referendum.

The country was increasingly divided re the EU - uncontrolled immigration in particular - and so were the parties. Farage seemed to get an inordinate amount of media time to exploit this.

As mentioned above the EU were conceited about the whole business, giving Cameron virtually nothing - why should they you may ask.

He was also right to resign when the referendum was lost.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:00 pm
by dsr
Hipper wrote:I think he had little choice but to call a referendum.

The country was increasingly divided re the EU - uncontrolled immigration in particular - and so were the parties. Farage seemed to get an inordinate amount of media time to exploit this.

As mentioned above the EU were conceited about the whole business, giving Cameron virtually nothing - why should they you may ask.

He was also right to resign when the referendum was lost.
Farage was also the leader of the party that won the most votes in the 2014 Euro elections - as he was in 2019, incidentally. Cameron is wrong to think that the EU was only of marginal interest.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:01 pm
by Lancasterclaret
dsr wrote:Farage was also the leader of the party that won the most votes in the 2014 Euro elections - as he was in 2019, incidentally. Cameron is wrong to think that the EU was only of marginal interest.
if that was true dsr, why was Farage beaten by a man dressed as a dolphin in a GE?

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:14 pm
by Rowls
Lancasterclaret wrote:He's pretty much admitted that he should have never called the referendum today.

Cheers Dave!
That’s a tendentious way of interpreting his words.

He regrets calling the referendum, yes. But of course he does - he lost!

Does he “admit” anything on the Scottish referendum? Or the PR referendum? No, because he won those.

Cameron’s legacy is the jobs boom the country has enjoyed which was largely down to his tax reforms in coalition with the Lib Dems.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:14 pm
by dsr
Lancasterclaret wrote:if that was true dsr, why was Farage beaten by a man dressed as a dolphin in a GE?
What do you mean - if that was true?

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:18 pm
by Rowls
Hipper wrote:He was also right to resign when the referendum was lost.

Right to resign, yes, but I think he should have stayed on for a short interim period and started the Brexit process himself.

It would have been better for the UK if he’d instigated the legal procedure of Brexit and set his leave date as a few months after the referendum but very shortly or immediately after the Brexit process had begun properly.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:19 pm
by Devils_Advocate
dsr wrote:What do you mean - if that was true?
Think he means this
dsr wrote:Cameron is wrong to think that the EU was only of marginal interest.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:25 pm
by CaptainKirk
Rowls wrote:This is genuinely one of the most disgusting posts ever on here.

“Has the man no shame?” you ask. You clearly have no sense of irony to go with your callous lack of taste.
I know this is Rowls just being Rowls and I shouldn't get sucked in but to turn what is obviously a tragic private situation into a chapter in his book to me shows a complete lack of taste. I see he is doing it again today.
How that shows a "callous lack of taste" on my part is beyond me but then again you do have somewhat of a reputation on this board.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:30 pm
by dsr
More than 1 in 8 voters in the 2015 general election voted for UKIP, even with the referendum promise in place. Hardly of marginal interest.

Re: David Cameron

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:50 pm
by Rowls
It’s amazing what feats of unimaginable mental somersaults people can perform to keep themselves as the heroes of their internal monologue.

But accusing somebody of using their dead son to “flesh out” their memoirs is notably despicable, even on here.