Can anyone tell me why Everton preferred him to Dyche? Or what he has ever achieved? Trophies? Style?

Quite simply he is an inferior product to Dyche.

The name, that's it..

Genuinely don’t understand why they get shut if big Sam.

Portugese with nice hair is the positive on his cv...

done nowt as player or manager, second or third tier at best. seems to be a lot of coaches around with little pedigree.
Brendan rogers baffled me, think his playing career was at its peak playing for a post office 3rd team in a Dublin sunday leage team.
Granted, he has done alright.

cockneyclaret wrote:The name, that's it..

Exactly. Would he have got the job as Mark Silver?

Wile E Coyote wrote:done nowt as player or manager, second or third tier at best. seems to be a lot of coaches around with little pedigree.
Brendan rogers baffled me, think his playing career was at its peak playing for a post office 3rd team in a Dublin sunday leage team.
Granted, he has done alright.

Rogers playing career was cut short before it really started by a genetic knee problem whilst at Reading.
He has had a decent managerial career, mind.

yes i know, I was alluding to the fact there are more than a few others who have got top jobs without a track record as either player or manager.
Rogers does appear to know his onions though.

Rodgers is a very good manager.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Rodgers is a very good manager.

And Roy....

Has darker hair.

Wile E Coyote wrote:done nowt as player...second or third tier at best...

In my opinion that's no bad thing. A very high proportion of Managers are ex-players and as a generalisation, I've always felt that the 'second/third tier', journeyman players make the better Managers that naturally 'gifted' players from the 1st tier; I've always suspected that's because they've had to think/work to keep their playing jobs and can pass now pass on what they learnt, whereas the 'natural talents' don't know how they do it, they just can. I'd always choose a Shankley/Paisley over a Dalglish/Gerrard; a Wenger rather than Henry, or Ferguson over Robson/Keane; closer to home, I'll take SD every time over a return by Inchy or Chris Waddle

tim_noone wrote:And Roy....

Rodgers?

We will get Silva sacked on the 5th.

To never have won a game after going behind as Everton manager is fairly damming.

I've often wondered why clubs chase this guy. Has he been a success anywhere as a manager?

He makes some really baffling team choices and substitutions. Calvert-Lewin scored and was one of their better players in a poor performance at Bournemouth but then he doesn't make the team or even get brought on as a sub yesterday in favour of strikers who have done absolutely nothing. Team selection policy seems completely the opposite to SD where you keep the shirt if you play well. The only players who seem to keep their shirts are the defenders who have been woeful, Keane included.

chekhov wrote:Rodgers?

Woy!!

Doesn’t matter how you wanna play or what better technical players they have nowadays. If you don’t replace Lakukus 20/25 goals a season you ain’t going anywhere. I mean Calvert Lewin shite.

Im tired of hearing about these young players at these bigger clubs that have “potential”. That’s all well and good if you have Van Nistelrooy or Shearer in your squad. But when Man Utd play Rashford or Everton C-L you have another 15 clubs who have better strikers as of this season. Rashford might be better than Barnes in 2 years. But right now he certainly isn’t.

Stayingup wrote:I've often wondered why clubs chase this guy. Has he been a success anywhere as a manager?

Won the second league in Portugal with the mighty Estoril then took them to 5th in the top division and qualified for Europe

Won the Portuguese equivalent of the FA Cup with Sporting

Won the Greek Super League whilst bettering any start to a season by any European club in the 21st Century

Had a decent record at Hull given the circumstances, had a great record at Watford up until the Everton approach and fall out where things then went sour.

Had a decent win rate last year but whether he'll fully succeed at Everton this season is doubtful but his track record up to this season as a manager is nevertheless impressive.

When Dyche finally gets a bigger club than Burnley with a bigger budget and more expectation we'll see how he fares and whether his unbelievable success at Burnley is just a one off

Devils_Advocate wrote:Won the second league in Portugal with the mighty Estoril then took them to 5th in the top division and qualified for Europe

Won the Portuguese equivalent of the FA Cup with Sporting

Won the Greek Super League whilst bettering any start to a season by any European club in the 21st Century

Had a decent record at Hull given the circumstances, had a great record at Watford up until the Everton approach and fall out where things then went sour.

Had a decent win rate last year but whether he'll fully succeed at Everton this season is doubtful but his track record up to this season as a manager is nevertheless impressive.

When Dyche finally gets a bigger club than Burnley with a bigger budget and more expectation we'll see how he fares and whether his unbelievable success at Burnley is just a one off

Lots of people don't seem to realise there is a whole world of football outside the Premiership.

tim_noone wrote:And Roy....

Rode a very good horse.

jrgbfc wrote:Lots of people don't seem to realise there is a whole world of football outside the Premiership.

A lot of us do, but we also think Silva is nothing special in England and the fact Everton aren't really showing any real signs of progression sort of proves us right.

Read this morning Koeman was sacked early on after defeats to Chelsea, United and Arsenal. They have this season lost to Villa, Bournemouth and Sheffield United.

jrgbfc wrote:Lots of people don't seem to realise there is a whole world of football outside the Premiership.

There is. But his record in England is what’s relevant. And it’s average.

Don’t want Silva being sacked as don’t want the Toffees coming sniffing around for Dyche

Everton is the only club I reckon would come in for Dyche. He shouldn’t turn them down to be fair

claptrappers_union wrote:Everton is the only club I reckon would come in for Dyche. He shouldn’t turn them down to be fair

But he must know that he'll be sacked if he has a bad run, like 12 points from 19 matches.

Everton are on their 4th manager since David Moyes left.

kaptin1 wrote:Don’t want Silva being sacked as don’t want the Toffees coming sniffing around for Dyche

This a good point. Allardyce, the ultimate pragmatist was sacked because of the attritional football, despite relatively satisfactory results. Silva's supposedly more expansive style has been an expensive failure. If they decide to make a change the club are likely, with some justification, to look at the most successful period in their recent history, under Moyes, and try and recreate that.

Everton will look abroad if they pot Silva.

If they wanted someone British I think Eddie Howe would be more appealing to them than Dyche.

Clearly Everton would be a big step up for a manager like Dyche. But I genuinely feel that as long as we’re in the Premier League he will find it very difficult to leave us due to his job security, competitive salary and the autonomy he is given.

Spijed wrote:But he must know that he'll be sacked if he has a bad run, like 12 points from 19 matches.

Everton are on their 4th manager since David Moyes left.

But I think if Dyche stays at Burnley, his career will stagnate. He’s got it easy at Burnley though. Feet firmly under the table at the moment.

jrgbfc wrote:If they wanted someone British I think Eddie Howe would be more appealing to them than Dyche.

Liverpool’s too far from Sandbanks for our Eddie.

claptrappers_union wrote:But I think if Dyche stays at Burnley, his career will stagnate. He’s got it easy at Burnley though. Feet firmly under the table at the moment.

I’m beginning to suspect that Dyche may leave Football Management altogether, when he finally leaves Burnley.

claptrappers_union wrote:But I think if Dyche stays at Burnley, his career will stagnate. He’s got it easy at Burnley though. Feet firmly under the table at the moment.

Big Sam wasn't entirely popular due to his brand of football and they may feel the same about SD

Shore claret wrote:To never have won a game after going behind as Everton manager is fairly damming.

They come from behind to beat Lincoln recently in the cup so it must mean Premier league.

It took Dyche quite a while to win from behind in the premier league.

[quote="jrgbfc"]If they wanted someone British I think Eddie Howe would be more appealing to them than Dyche.[/y
Howe and dyche are in the same boat , safe in their own se!f built kingdoms, I think Dyche is more ambitious than Eddie and as we all know he can't live out of the South coast.

I’m convinced Dyche is in the succession planning for the England job, along with Eddie Howe

Any update on this?

Sacked in the morning?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Sacked in the morning?

He can't be far off. They should be EASILY top 10 - and I'd say more top 8 or 7 along with Wolves.

How anyone could want Allerdyce replacing with a charlatan like silva is beyond me.

Mark Silver and hed be managing carlisle.

Think the Everton fans gave their opinion at the end.

Can't spend that amount of money and play like that.

The line up, tactics and substitutions were baffling.

Spent more than liverpool and ended up with alex iwobi

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Mark Silver and hed be managing carlisle.

Mark Nickel and he'd be managing bstards.

On today’s evidence obviously better than Dyche and they play better football oh hang on a minute!

Fraud.