What next for Boris ?

Prorogue parliament again I reckon

Down Deadwood with the other losers.

Our government/ politics in general are a total joke.

MPs ( on both sides) and Parliament as a whole haven’t exactly crowned themselves in glory over the last few years.

We are going to get extreme politics from both sides now.

On a whole parliament and the executive have Been disgusting throughout the whole Brexit saga.

Right_winger wrote:We are going to get extreme politics from both sides now.

On a whole parliament and the executive have Been disgusting throughout the whole Brexit saga.

Why, because you aren't going to get a no deal Brexit?

MPs are actually protecting democracy.

I’m rather hoping, being the Man of Honour he so evidently is, that he will take a bottle of scotch and his service revolver into his office and lock the door.

Part of me hopes he goes to the European Court of Justice

11 (eleven) - 0.

Poor Boris.

Chip Harrison wrote:Why, because you aren't going to get a no deal Brexit?

MPs are actually protecting democracy.

Absolute ********.

MPs have overturned our decision as people to leave the EU. Used every dirty trick possible in which to do so.

Blackrod wrote:MPs ( on both sides) and Parliament as a whole haven’t exactly crowned themselves in glory over the last few years.

Right_winger wrote:We are going to get extreme politics from both sides now.

Nah. Get out of here with your 'both sides' bullshit. There's only one side here who has illegally suspended Parliament and illegally advised the Queen, and that's Boris Johnson's tawdry government, which happens to be packed full of extreme Brexiters.

The biggest collection of remainers I've seen was when I went to visit the Vagina Museum in London.

quoonbeatz wrote:11 (eleven) - 0.

Poor Boris.

Democracy 0. The Establishment 1.

(Current, not final score)

Today's ruling -


THE BEST FORM OF DEMOCRACY THAT MONEY CAN BUY

RingoMcCartney wrote:Democracy 0. The Establishment 1.

(Current, not final score)

The people who want to break the law - 0

The people who don't - 11

Chip Harrison wrote:Why, because you aren't going to get a no deal Brexit?

MPs are actually protecting democracy.

MPs have refused to have a general election.










They're running away from democracy........

MPs are actually protecting democracy.

Find that hard to follow.
People vote 52% 48% to leave EU.May not like it but that is what happened
Negotiations with EU with one arm tied behind our backs as we say we don't want to leave without a deal.
Negotiated deal turned down three times
Multiple attempts by MPs' to get a consensus of what to do fail
Belatedly we try to negotiate properly by leaving no deal on the table and MPs block it
After 3.5 years of getting nowhere Boris shuts down Parliament by 5 weeks but reality is far less than that due to Party conferences and 11 likely Pro EU but unbiased judges tell him he is not allowed to do it that way as it is stifling Parliament's ability to debate and ask questions of the PM and Ministers.
And in the midst of a Government that has no majority the opposition refuse to settle for dissolution and a General Election.
So we have a totally inept Tory and Labour lot and the bastions of democracy the Liberal Democrats now aka Liberal Non-democrats will simply ignore the 2016 referendum result and revoke Article 50 if they get into power.
Pity the Army is so short of staff we can't have a brief coup and lock up 650 men and women and start again
And for me the worst thing of all is that Boris thought he would get away with shutting Parliament down

Fantastic News!

And hopefully goodbye Boris

Opportunist Sociopath Chancer Boris would sell the Royal Navy to Somali Pirates if it was expedient to his desires(and that of his paymasters).
I for one am glad that our Parliamentary Democracy and the Rule of Law has robustly stood up for itself, and told him to Foxtrot Oscar.

Wasnt it Her Majesty who ordered the closure after a request fro Bojo

There must be some ancient law about telling fibs to the monarch. Will he be sent to the tower?

RMutt wrote:There must be some ancient law about telling fibs to the monarch. Will he be sent to the tower?

He's not allowed to walk his goats through the streets of London for two weeks.

RingoMcCartney wrote:Democracy 0. The Establishment 1.

(Current, not final score)

Think you'll find the supreme court disallowed the establishment's goal. Democracy currently on top with plenty of time left.

FCBurnley wrote:Wasnt it Her Majesty who ordered the closure after a request fro Bojo

Unbelievable. Do you know nothing about what happened? She can't refuse!!!!!!

Lord Beamish wrote:I’m rather hoping, being the Man of Honour he so evidently is, that he will take a bottle of scotch and his service revolver into his office and lock the door.

He'd probably shoot the whisky and fall out of the window.

Which tower? Blackpool?

They have another ******* circus and a set of clowns there!

Fretters wrote:He's not allowed to walk his goats through the streets of London for two weeks.

I think he got that for wasting money on his bridge idea and the water canons. I think this might mean it will include his geese and sheep too.

The Queen should've fooked him off - "off with his head!"

Imminent resignation I reckon. It all seems to be running to B J’s plan. Name in history for minimum effort.

Just to clarify, the court haven't ruled that Johnson lied to the Queen.

I mean, we all know he did, but they didn't go that far!

But its not an election winner having been found out to being "experimental with the truth" with the Queen is it?

Johnson is a spoilt child who has been given every opportunity in life and has gotten away with lots due to lack of scrutiny and privilege - see the idiot on the other side of the pond.

How many times has he been caught out lying now? He is a disgrace and should resign if he had any honour at all - he hasn’t so I doubt he will.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Just to clarify, the court haven't ruled that Johnson lied to the Queen.

I mean, we all know he did, but they didn't go that far!

But its not an election winner having been found out to being "experimental with the truth" with the Queen is it?

Disagree. This will play right into the Tories hands.

It's a mess isn't it? Just all of it.

Never thought any one.could be worse than.Margaret Thatcher.but the current lot ?

“Parliament, and in particular the House of Commons as the elected representatives of the people, has a right to a voice in how that change comes about. The effect upon the fundamentals of our democracy was extreme. No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.”

Statement by the Supreme Court (which used to be called the Law Lords and has ruled on the legality of laws and governments for over 400 years) after their unprecedented 11-0 decision against The Prime Minister today

But doesn’t parliament close anyway in late Sept? This will play right into the hands of Farago et al as well as entrenching the both sides .

Right_winger wrote:Absolute ********.

MPs have overturned our decision as people to leave the EU. Used every dirty trick possible in which to do so.

No they haven't. They just don't want to leave with no deal. We will still leave either with or without a deal.

I’d imagine this will play right into Boris’s hands as well mainly due to the odious bunch of the likes of Thornberry/Corbyn/Abbot/ SNP will be ranting only to the converted

AlargeClaret wrote:But doesn’t parliament close anyway in late Sept? This will play right into the hands of Farago et al as well as entrenching the both sides .

They’ve had 3 and a bit years to sort Brexit and they claim that they’re being denied the 3 and a bit weeks that they need to sort it out
Clowns & Jokers

mdd2: MPs are actually protecting democracy.

Find that hard to follow.
People vote 52% 48% to leave EU.May not like it but that is what happened - Advisory referendum in a Parliamentary Democracy

Negotiations with EU with one arm tied behind our backs as we say we don't want to leave without a deal. - We were promised during the leave campaign that the deal would be done before Article 50 was invoked

Negotiated deal turned down three times - It was a crap deal.

Multiple attempts by MPs' to get a consensus of what to do fail - because MPs are split between remain, no-deal, leave but with a better deal.

Belatedly we try to negotiate properly by leaving no deal on the table and MPs block it - because no deal is total suicide.

After 3.5 years of getting nowhere Boris shuts down Parliament by 5 weeks but reality is far less than that due to Party conferences and 11 likely Pro EU but unbiased judges tell him he is not allowed to do it that way as it is stifling Parliament's ability to debate and ask questions of the PM and Ministers. - They have been around for centuries (formerly called the Law Lords), are mainly former Conservative members and interpret the actual wording of Laws.

And in the midst of a Government that has no majority the opposition refuse to settle for dissolution and a General Election. - Because Boris has the power to have moved the date from his stated Oct 16th to Oct 30th meaning no-deal would have happened by default with Parliament closed. Now that an election cannot be called before the 31st October I am sure you will see a no confidence vote with Parliament closing on October 31st.

So we have a totally inept Tory and Labour lot and the bastions of democracy the Liberal Democrats now aka Liberal Non-democrats will simply ignore the 2016 referendum result and revoke Article 50 if they get into power. - If they win enough seats to make it happen then that is the democratic view of the people.

Pity the Army is so short of staff we can't have a brief coup and lock up 650 men and women and start again - I know, let's have a military coup to restore our centuries old Parliamentary democracy by locking up our democratically elected Members of Parliament. The people would elect a new set of MPs who would still not be able to decide which Brexit or non Brexit they prefer. A divided country will elect a divided Parliament.

And for me the worst thing of all is that Boris thought he would get away with shutting Parliament down - So breaking the law to do so was OK?

Murger wrote:Disagree. This will play right into the Tories hands.

You disagree that Johnson lied to the Queen?

Or you disagree that campaigning with a PM that lied to the Queen is a good thing?

I get that "people versus the parliament" thing that the Tories have got going, but blatant lying to a very popular head of state isn't a good look, especially as the support base tends to get annoyed at stuff like that.

Nobody should be surprised. Johnson has a history of telling lies and being deceitful. The Supreme Court have issued a damning verdict today and its a wonderful victory for democracy.

Lancasterclaret wrote:You disagree that Johnson lied to the Queen?

Or you disagree that campaigning with a PM that lied to the Queen is a good thing?

I get that "people versus the parliament" thing that the Tories have got going, but blatant lying to a very popular head of state isn't a good look, especially as the support base tends to get annoyed at stuff like that.

How can anyone pass a judgement on the conversation between Boris and the Queen?

Unless you were there or transcripts made public?

Are we expected to make things up to form an opinion?

Lancasterclaret wrote: Or you disagree that campaigning with a PM that lied to the Queen is a good thing?

I think you meant bad thing there. Yes, Tories will have to decide whether they are republican Tories or royalist Tories. Then decide whether they can support a liar or not.

Quickenthetempo wrote:How can anyone pass a judgement on the conversation between Boris and the Queen?

Unless you were there or transcripts made public?

Are we expected to make things up to form an opinion?

Crikey, are you saying the queen was in on it too?

RMutt wrote:Crikey, are you saying the queen was in on it too?

I haven't a clue, just like you haven't.

We weren't there.

Vote of no confidence which is what Boris wanted.

Then; General Election, which is what Boris asked for.

Parliament is unknowingly in the checkmate position that Boris wanted.

All he has to do is not resign

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Lancasterclaret wrote:You disagree that Johnson lied to the Queen?

Or you disagree that campaigning with a PM that lied to the Queen is a good thing?

I get that "people versus the parliament" thing that the Tories have got going, but blatant lying to a very popular head of state isn't a good look, especially as the support base tends to get annoyed at stuff like that.

My comment was aimed at your 'its not an election winner'. This will played as people vs the establishment.