• Erik Pieters what a bargain

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:17 pm**

Another quality ball from Erik leading to another goal today
Erik is a class act and a great signing, made in our much maligned transfer window

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:18 pm**

Lost his man a lot today to be fair.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:20 pm**

Left himself exposed far too often for me today. A lot more negatives than positives from todays performance.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:22 pm**

Hopefully he's not too old to learn from his mistakes today - backing off his man and giving him acres of time and space to whip his cross in for the goal.

Another great assist though.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 pm**

Poor today.

Hope Charlie is back soon, for both us as a team, and Dwight.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:45 am**

He's done fine but starting to get found out now. Terrible play for both of their goals. Taylor in ASAP please.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:52 am**

Excellent value for money. What did we pay? £1.5m for PL and international experience.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:30 am**

An absolute liability simply can’t defend

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:39 am**

Loves a tackle and 3 assists in 7 games which isn't an easy task wouldn't question his defending but his positioning but he's certainly made up for it going forward.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:52 am**

Taylor is much the better player. The lad must be wondering what he’s done wrong.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:33 am**

Bit of a conundrum this guy. Sets up goals but gives them away at the other end

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:40 am**

Cross aside he was poor yesterday.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:00 am**

Fantastic last week but thought he was poor yesterday defensively.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:10 am**

Poor defensively, but does put some excellent crosses in. Time for Charlie though.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:30 am**

He's got a great cross and whats that three or four assists now?

But he was excellent v Norwich, but he's looked iffy away from the Turf

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:40 am**

Got caught out twice gave to much space and should have closed his man down
All be it he did put a fantastic inswinging cross in for the goal but swings and roundabouts dont help in this league
Switch off and you let the all team down
Another performance like that and it's got to be Charlie's shirt
But he could make amends and it was same with Wood 3 in two now in this league when he could have been rested
Dyche will no when to ring the changes and thank god for that UTC

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:41 am**

Should not be in the team ahead of a Taylor. He’s good backup and can deliver a cross but he’s just not as good a player.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:50 am**

We play a very narrow back 4 and I’m not sure if he is used to it. They played their widemen chalk on heels and the gap was far too wide at times. He’s only played 7 times and he’s had some excellent performances. I feel sure he’ll sort this out, look how long it took Taylor to come up to speed.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:12 am**

I like Erik’s physicality but for me, Taylor starts every day of the week.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:16 am**

Been a great signing, not his best yesterday, but could have been mom against Norwich.
A tough call as I've always liked Taylor, but whoever claims the starting shirt Eric has already proved his worth.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:23 am**

Worst game for us yesterday and looked a yard off his man all game but dont think dwight helps him enough defensively in my opinion.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:25 am**

It’s a little like the Darikwa/Ward situation back in 2015. The understudy brought in to cover the main actgets the spot and keeps it, even though they are inferior to the first choice. Pieters, like Bardsley, is about as good a second string full-back as we could expect, but Taylor is the future, I think.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:27 am**

At fault for their first and possibly the second but a crucial assist with a brilliant rushed cross and should have had another assist early in the game when Wood missed the header. Good signing but agree Taylor needs to come in when he's ready.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:35 am**

Appalling defensively yesterday, Charlie Taylor is a far superior defender. It wasn’t just the winger who was beating him all ends up, it was the full back too. He’s just got absolutely no pace and so he either gets way too tight and then span away from, or he backs off far too much and gives all the time in the world for a cross.

To be fair to him though, when he gets up he can put a very decent ball in, and his assists contribution this season he been very pleasing.

But overall, anyone who really thinks Pieters is better than Taylor is either registered blind or Hibsclaret.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:39 am**

Both crosses in which Villa scored from came from his side...

Check the goals we've conceded this season, a lot come from Pieters side, teams know he's a weakness and alway's attack down that flank.

Taylors better...

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:40 am**

It's a little frightening reading bad reports about our left back after watching Seamus Coleman for Everton yesterday. He was on fire yesterday, back to his best.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:42 am**

ksrclaret wrote:Appalling defensively yesterday, Charlie Taylor is a far superior defender. It wasn’t just the winger who was beating him all ends up, it was the full back too. He’s just got absolutely no pace and so he either gets way too tight and then span away from, or he backs off far too much and gives all the time in the world for a cross.

To be fair to him though, when he gets up he can put a very decent ball in, and his assists contribution this season he been very pleasing.

But overall, anyone who really thinks Pieters is better than Taylor is either registered blind or Sean Dyche.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:51 am**

Defo weaker with him in the side. Taylor needs to come back in imo

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:54 am**

So creates one goal puts another on a plate for Wood to miss and Taylor is far superior.

It’s a bit boring getting these threads wanting someone back in the team who is clearly not in the same league going forward every week.

Just trust in our great manager.

As for defensively better, I’m assuming you watched the masterclass against Norwich last week.

We could always bring Taylor in for the away games to keep it tighter and create nothing. There’s a reason we have scored in every away game...

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:58 am**

Hibsclaret wrote:So creates one goal puts another on a plate for Wood to miss and Taylor is far superior.

It’s a bit boring getting these threads wanting someone back in the team who is clearly not in the same league going forward every week.

Just trust in our great manager.

As for defensively better, I’m assuming you watched the masterclass against Norwich last week.

We could always bring Taylor in for the away games to keep it tighter and create nothing. There’s a reason we have scored in every away game...

Doesn't matter how many he creates if his defending is costing us goals down the other end. I thought Villa were targeting him yesterday, both goals and nearly all the danger was coming down his side.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:01 am**

Hibsclaret wrote:So creates one goal puts another on a plate for Wood to miss and Taylor is far superior.

It’s a bit boring getting these threads wanting someone back in the team who is clearly not in the same league going forward every week.

Just trust in our great manager.

As for defensively better, I’m assuming you watched the masterclass against Norwich last week.

We could always bring Taylor in for the away games to keep it tighter and create nothing. There’s a reason we have scored in every away game...

It’s probably best if you don’t comment or read these threads, for your own health more than anything.

It’s not even that you think Pieters is any good, it’s just everyone knows you’ve got a very strange hatred of all things Charlie Taylor.

I’d love to know what has gone on there. My guess would be something to do with a picture in your sticker book that is missing an autograph, despite asking him...

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:02 am**

Hibsclaret wrote:So creates one goal puts another on a plate for Wood to miss and Taylor is far superior.

It’s a bit boring getting these threads wanting someone back in the team who is clearly not in the same league going forward every week.

Just trust in our great manager.

As for defensively better, I’m assuming you watched the masterclass against Norwich last week.

We could always bring Taylor in for the away games to keep it tighter and create nothing. There’s a reason we have scored in every away game...

What have you got against Charlie Taylor?

I know you loved Ward but he's not here anymore.

Is it because he replaced Ward?

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:04 am**

Lord Beamish wrote:It’s a little like the Darikwa/Ward situation back in 2015. The understudy brought in to cover the main actgets the spot and keeps it, even though they are inferior to the first choice. Pieters, like Bardsley, is about as good a second string full-back as we could expect, but Taylor is the future, I think.

But Darikwa was a right back and Ward was a left back, so its not a real comparison.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:09 am**

Siddo wrote:But Darikwa was a right back and Ward was a left back, so its not a real comparison.

Sorry; I got mixed up. It was Lowton that Darikwa was keeping out. It was the change over from playing Mee at Left Back(dropping Duff to the bench)and bringing Ward in, along with Lowton taking his place in the Right Back berth that kicked on our Championship Campaign.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:19 am**

jrgbfc wrote:Doesn't matter how many he creates if his defending is costing us goals down the other end. I thought Villa were targeting him yesterday, both goals and nearly all the danger was coming down his side.

If Wood scores from the best cross of the first half, we win the game. It was a sitter put on a plate.

I’d love to know what Erik thinks if he reads these threads every week. Joins a new club plays well with the odd lapse every week and gets pelters. Charlie can’t make the bench for away games. Time to get behind the guy playing well in the shirt.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:35 am**

Hibsclaret wrote:If Wood scores from the best cross of the first half, we win the game.

So the team that scores first wins the game? Well by heck, someone better tell Villa that and award them two extra points.

Hibsclaret wrote:Time to get behind the guy playing well in the shirt.

Brilliant. Like you did with Charlie Taylor last season?

Give it up, mate.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:02 am**

Hibsclaret wrote:If Wood scores from the best cross of the first half, we win the game. It was a sitter put on a plate.

I’d love to know what Erik thinks if he reads these threads every week. Joins a new club plays well with the odd lapse every week and gets pelters. Charlie can’t make the bench for away games. Time to get behind the guy playing well in the shirt.

Probably thinks he should do better defensively

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:06 am**

At the moment he is the weak link in the back 4

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:26 am**

Primarily I want my defenders to be able to defend. How they go forward is a bonus. Last season we looked extremley balanced, in Bardsley we had a a full back who was extremley solid and held back while Taylor on the other side made the marauding runs forward supporting McNeil.
Bringing Lowton back has seen us probe further forwards on the right hand side but I cant help but feel we have been penned in on the left with teams targeting this flank. A good offense is always a good defence and without Taylors surging runs forward we are struggling to push the them back on the left side of the pitch. Dwight is also suffering from this.

While I think Pieters has done OK and got some good assists. Taylor is a superior player in most aspects and gives a better balance to the side.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:48 am**

Hibsclaret wrote: I’d love to know what Erik thinks if he reads these threads every week. Joins a new club plays well with the odd lapse every week and gets pelters. Charlie can’t make the bench for away games. Time to get behind the guy playing well in the shirt.

I'd love to know what Charlie Taylor thinks when (if) he reads your posts.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:51 am**

boatshed bill wrote:I'd love to know what Charlie Taylor thinks when (if) he reads your posts.

He definitely reads them cos there’s at least 3 of his aliases on this thread for a start....

The thread was about Pieters being a bargain and what a bargain he is being an old has been from Stoke keeping the modern day Maldini out of the team

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:51 am**

Some people arguing for, some against. Dyche meanwhile puts him in the starting XI.
I think we can probably agree £1.5m was a bargain, even If you think he should be on the bench.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:54 am**

Hibsclaret wrote:He definitely reads them cos there’s at least 3 of his aliases on this thread for a start....

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:56 am**

Salah
Mahrez
Firmino
Pieters

All have equal numbers of assists from the first 7 games

I’d say that’s a bargain

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:59 am**

He was indeed a bargain ,and took his chance well to play. While I’d prefer to have Taylor back , (he takes a man on and gets to the byline better than Pieetrs and worked well with McNeil ) Pieters hasn’t really done anything to deserve being dropped . Not sure if Taylor is still carrying a knock or there’s been a falling out

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:01 pm**

Hibsclaret wrote:Salah
Mahrez
Firmino
Pieters

All have equal numbers of assists from the first 7 games

I’d say that’s a bargain

I’ve heard of claret n blue specs but that is literally rogering yourself with a claret n blue dildo

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:08 pm**

Ward only got 2 Prem League assists in his whole Burnley career. Cant believe Dyche stuck with the donkey for so long

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:03 pm**

Lee wrote:Both crosses in which Villa scored from came from his side...

Check the goals we've conceded this season, a lot come from Pieters side, teams know he's a weakness and alway's attack down that flank.

Taylors better...

Crosses came from his side goals come from poor defending by Ben Mee and Lowton tucking in too much not knowing whose around the back.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:26 pm**

He made a very good, last ditch, block yesterday.
Very brave cross for the goal.

He is doing his bit.

Posted: **Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:29 pm**

AlargeClaret wrote:I’ve heard of claret n blue specs but that is literally rogering yourself with a claret n blue dildo

Just laughed out loud. Only seen one person agree with him on here... turtle. Says it all.

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