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The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:41 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Is it just me or is this overused and now getting boring.
Was reading an article on how this actually gives them an advantage. Because whilst they are doing it the opposition are relaxing and their bodies are cooling down as they are expected to stay still for it. Yet the All blacks are getting psyched up and by the end of it their bodies are more prepared for the first ten mins of the match than the opposition who are playing catch up getting their adrenaline going again.
Also why do the football team not perform the Haka if it is so important to their culture or is their a reason I am too stupid to realise
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:43 pm
by conyoviejo
The Haka is the best part of the game.. The rest of the game is crap..
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:49 pm
by claretnproud
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:49 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Amazing timing, Gary Lineker tweeted the same earlier today.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:50 pm
by LeadBelly
Shouldn't be allowed- unless our lads can do a Morris Dance in response.
Irish can do one of those tap-dancey things, Scots can do a sword/claymore dance and the Welsh can chuck some leeks & daffs about. French can do some sort of shruggy shoulders gesture dance. Australians can do some Kangaroo dancing.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:57 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Burnleyareback2 wrote:Amazing timing, Gary Lineker tweeted the same earlier today.
Right...so i am guessing Piers Morgan then tweeted he was all for it and how offensive Lineker was
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:00 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Cleveleys_claret wrote:Right...so i am guessing Piers Morgan then tweeted he was all for it and how offensive Lineker was
No idea, I have his tweets blocked. The comments generally were not positive to his point though.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:08 pm
by tim_noone
Didnt our Lads have a huddle in the championship years Leading to promotion?
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:13 pm
by Wile E Coyote
it was done to death years ago, the BBC lap this sort of slop up, but the daft ritual is one of those things royals like, royals and idiots.
ponce sport anyway.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:25 pm
by fatboy47
Union?..30 gym bunnies running into each other for 80 minutes.
The Haka is just a bit of primeval grunting and face pulling...sort of thing we did at Primary School...but it's the sort of garbage the TV companies love.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:44 pm
by LeadBelly
Blimey Fatboy47, I always presumed you were a front row man, given your name.
I agree with all the criticism of the sport though - nowhere near enough rolling around pretending to be hurt and falling down at the slightest touch. Also largely lacks silly dances when people score a try. I dare say the players dont even all wear Beatz headphones- pathetic really, don't know why I've been watching the World Cup most mornings.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:57 pm
by fatboy47
LeadBelly wrote:Blimey Fatboy47, I always presumed you were a front row man, given your name.
I agree with all the criticism of the sport though - nowhere near enough rolling around pretending to be hurt and falling down at the slightest touch. Also largely lacks silly dances when people score a try. I dare say the players dont even all wear Beatz headphones- pathetic really, don't know why I've been watching the World Cup most mornings.
Played hooker and occasionally open side for years Leadbelly.....and loved every minute...?games changed now though...the breathtaking skills of the Phil Bennet's..Campese's...and Barry John's are a thing of the past.....it was all about skill and there was a position for everyone..whatever their shape
. Good luck to those who enjoy it now, but it's a shadow of what it used to be.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:07 pm
by Bosscat
Burnleyareback2 wrote:Amazing timing, Gary Lineker tweeted the same earlier today.
In that case the "Haka" is brilliant
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:44 am
by Funkydrummer
England's version of the Haka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvhKEMjsdmI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:50 am
by Funkydrummer
........ and the Yorkshire version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ4zQjteIXQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:53 am
by Wile E Coyote
sue barker will be beside herself. jesus.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:19 am
by Quicknick
Haka is crap. RU is crap.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:31 am
by Tribesmen
The Haka is so ingrained in rugby , now never seen it done live but still gives me goose bumps every time I see it on the box .
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:12 am
by Pstotto
''The opposition are expected to stay still for it'
Jeer them, laugh at them, ignore them, big fat girlie blokes in skirts...
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:28 am
by ŽižkovClaret
The Scots should moon them
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:04 am
by AlargeClaret
It’s nothing more than a hilarious homoerotic dance with huge muscular hideously ugly guys stomping and grunting Good for them and their culture but it strikes about as much fear into the opposition as the CFS or Ken Clarke That said, as the undisputed daddies of RU they can do what they want .
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:09 am
by Lancasterclaret
I don't like rugby, very rarely watch it but the NZ haka when done well is a beautiful thing to watch and long may it continue.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:17 am
by claretblue
Cleveleys_claret wrote:is their a reason I am too stupid to realise
Hakan't answer that!

Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:18 am
by Quicknick
It's always been boring. As has rugby union.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:12 pm
by grapidianclaret
fatboy47 wrote:Played hooker and occasionally open side for years Leadbelly.....and loved every minute...?games changed now though...the breathtaking skills of the Phil Bennet's..Campese's...and Barry John's are a thing of the past.....it was all about skill and there was a position for everyone..whatever their shape
. Good luck to those who enjoy it now, but it's a shadow of what it used to be.
Very clever. You had me there until Campese. Front row, open side my arse!
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:14 pm
by grapidianclaret
Quicknick wrote:It's always been boring. As has rugby union.
It must be boring, the rugby world cup(Union) is only the worlds third biggest sporting spectacle.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:38 pm
by CoolClaret
Lots of moronic replies in this thread as expected.
I'd suggest attempting to learn just a tad about Maori culture/traditions before spouting ********.
If this was jeering a Pakistani tradition, that caused no harm to anyone for example, it would be deemed as 'racist'.... No difference here
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:51 pm
by claptrappers_union
The Haka is a cultural thing... not something just for show
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:09 pm
by 2 Bee Holed
Brilliant.
I can imagine the CFS doing that before a game!

Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:14 pm
by No Ney Never
Many of our fans do something similar in the Cricketfield stand every home game, it's called the smaka.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:24 pm
by Andingle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovd3v0CPXJA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:45 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Doesn't Rocky do the Ataka Ataka Ataka?
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:15 pm
by Wile E Coyote
CoolClaret wrote:Lots of moronic replies in this thread as expected.
I'd suggest attempting to learn just a tad about Maori culture/traditions before spouting ********.
If this was jeering a Pakistani tradition, that caused no harm to anyone for example, it would be deemed as 'racist'.... No difference here
i doubt you'd mind if it were aimed at the french though, because they are still the butt of jibes on films, tv , especially where england are concerned.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:21 pm
by Bosscat
2 Bee Holed wrote:Brilliant.
I can imagine the CFS doing that before a game!

Looking from our vantage point in the JHU we thought they already did

Re: The Haka
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:59 pm
by Rileybobs
Considering they wipe the floor with whoever they play I’m surprised some opposition teams haven’t decided to just continue their warm-ups whilst the All-Blacks crack on with it.
It’s intended to strike fear into the opposition and is almost certain to give them a slight edge going into a match. So I’ve no idea why at the elite level, when fine margins come into play, the opposition subject themselves to it. Odd.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:52 am
by Holtyclaret
Some pig ignorant responses to what is a ritual steeped in the kiwis heritage and Maori folklore. Personally love seeing the haka and admire their passion and pride on full display in representing their nation.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:58 pm
by Firthy
I'd be more than happy for Burnley to do the Haka before every match if it made us as successful as the All Blacks.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:03 pm
by Transpennine
Rileybobs wrote:Considering they wipe the floor with whoever they play I’m surprised some opposition teams haven’t decided to just continue their warm-ups whilst the All-Blacks crack on with it.
It’s intended to strike fear into the opposition and is almost certain to give them a slight edge going into a match. So I’ve no idea why at the elite level, when fine margins come into play, the opposition subject themselves to it. Odd.
are the opposition obliged to stand there and watch? If so.. why?
And if they're not obliged, then why do they do it?
I appreciate it's a different sport and culture. But I couldn't imagine a Sean Dyche team standing there before the game as Man City danced around the centre circle for 3 minutes prior to kick off...
Re: The Haka
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:50 am
by CaptainClaret
There’s generally more respect in international competition. We even (mostly) manage to respect national anthems in football.
Having lived in NZ 7years (I’m a citizen now) I’m not keen on rugby - it’s generally the first and last thing in the news every day, but the Haka is culturally important here and it seems a harmless tradition to get worked up about. Probably adds to the spectacle.
Re: The Haka
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:06 am
by Firthy
Transpennine wrote:are the opposition obliged to stand there and watch? If so.. why?
And if they're not obliged, then why do they do it?
I appreciate it's a different sport and culture. But I couldn't imagine a Sean Dyche team standing there before the game as Man City danced around the centre circle for 3 minutes prior to kick off...
Just the opposite, I think SD would insist they stood there as a mark of respect. The Haka is massively important to the maori people and 100's of years old.
If you read this article about Britain showing regret for some of Captains Cooks crew killing several maoris because they saw the Haka as being aggressive when they were greeted with it.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zea ... ars-ago-v1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The Haka
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:54 am
by timshorts
I suppose I sort of respect what it is, but have to agree with the opening poster that it's sort of tedious. It was one thing having it appear on lions tours every eight years, but with them turning up for autumn internationals every year, our summer tours, World cups etc it's turned into something I do something else during, like the national anthems.
Still, it's very much less tedious than people that learn the words and actions and perform it over here in pubs etc.