Was it just me that thought when Taylor played due to Pieters injury we looked a lot better, and we have been missing that drive on the left hand side and interchange higher up the pitch, as well as the solid defensive duty? I just dont understand why someone one of his calibre and age are wasted sat on the bench. Dyche must see something in training presumably.

Could it be that SD sees he has someone of equal calibre already has the shirt - and under SD's mantra of team before ego it is for Pieters to lose his grip on the shirt rather than the other way round. Taylor and Pieters are both excellent players with slightly different strengths and both will do the job when out there for a game. Charlie has to keep his self belief and wait for his opportunity. Once he starts a game it will then be his shirt to lose and Pieters will have to play the waiting game - just like Bardsley is doing

Taylor looked good when he came on. Having said that I have been impressed with Pieters who does not look out of place at this level. I’m surprised at some of the cricicism to be honest.Taylor is better going forward ( but then look at Pieters assists) but Pieters is pretty solid defensively.

ClaretAL wrote:Was it just me that thought when Taylor played due to Pieters injury we looked a lot better, and we have been missing that drive on the left hand side and interchange higher up the pitch, as well as the solid defensive duty? I just dont understand why someone one of his calibre and age are wasted sat on the bench. Dyche must see something in training presumably.

In his Q and A this week, I think it was in his games for us he was impressed. Pieters that is.

ClaretAL wrote:Was it just me that thought when Taylor played due to Pieters injury we looked a lot better, and we have been missing that drive on the left hand side and interchange higher up the pitch, as well as the solid defensive duty? I just dont understand why someone one of his calibre and age are wasted sat on the bench. Dyche must see something in training presumably.

He played really well but they did have their right back sent off two minutes after he came on. Pieters has been excellent though and is earning his place on merit.

I really don't think there's much between them, both have their own individual qualities and we're fortunate to have them both.

I'll leave it to SD to decide, and I'll go along with him.

Taylor’s better IMO but Pieters and or the team have to start doing badly for the change to happen. Nothing unusual about that, it’s how 90% of clubs are run.

Agreed absolutely fantastic position to be in when you consider other clubs struggling to find a good left back. But for me Taylor is wasting away his prime years on the bench, and Pieters although very good needs to give the attacker a few yards which has caught us out a few times when he is caught in no mans land between the player and stopping the cross.

Ffs

ClaretAL wrote:Agreed absolutely fantastic position to be in when you consider other clubs struggling to find a good left back. But for me Taylor is wasting away his prime years on the bench, and Pieters although very good needs to give the attacker a few yards which has caught us out a few times when he is caught in no mans land between the player and stopping the cross.

I don’t think the manager agrees with you. I think Pieters has been excellent. Taylor is hardly wasting away his prime years but no matter what the team comes first and some players miss out.

Today again for me Taylor would have been the better option, but i get our point Dyche knows more, but in my naive mind Taylor offers a lot more. I dont have anything against Pieters and he isnt far behind Taylor at all for me, i just think Taylor attacks the player and stops the cross better and also going forward is better.

Surely Taylor is the better choice, didn't we sign Pieters as cover?

We certainly need Bardsley back on the right. If Bardsley comes back Taylor needs bringing back on the left to give us more bite going forward and balance the side

Pieters should not be in this team ahead of Taylor.

Pleased we signed Pieters. But I also think Taylor should be starting.

I'm amazed anyone can dispassionately look at the respective performances of Pieters and Taylor, and conclude that Pieters is the better choice at left-back.

When Taylor played we looked a better side, than with Pieters . But we should be used to certain players not being considered for a starting role no matter how the regulars are playing.

Boring

People on here wont be happy until our best left back is dropped.

Bit like back in the day when everyone was clamouring for Easton ahead of Fox.

Oh I miss Sheena. He was terrible.


Still, Taylor for me.

Dyche makes so many mistakes. I just wish he’d read this board and change the team as guided by the insightful majority on here so we can take up our rightful place back in the championship.....

Or he could just continue making us better every season as he does

Pieters is what I'd class as a typical Dyche player. Steady, does exactly what he's told, 6 out of 10 every week. Similar to a lot of our squad. Unfortunately it means our younger, better left back who is still at an age where he can improve is stuck on the bench.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:People on here wont be happy until our best left back is dropped.

Bit like back in the day when everyone was clamouring for Easton ahead of Fox.

Best left back in who's opinion?

Are we talking about the one that continually backs off so the opponent can take all night to put his cross in?

You're obviously an expert left back. How would you solve this?

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Best left back in who's opinion?

Are we talking about the one that continually backs off so the opponent can take all night to put his cross in?

You're obviously an expert left back. How would you solve this?

He's clearly on another wind up. Taylor is streets ahead of Pieters.

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Best left back in who's opinion?

Seems to be Dyche’s opinion or in other words the one that counts

Hibsclaret wrote:Seems to be Dyche’s opinion or in other words the one that counts

I think Dyche brought him in and now loses face if he drops him.

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:I think Dyche brought him in and now loses face if he drops him.

Nonsense.

You really have a ridiculous view of our great manager. Loses face....really

He brought Taylor in too. The only difference being it took months for him to get a game....

Hibsclaret wrote:Seems to be Dyche’s opinion or in other words the one that counts

The same Dyche who played Ben Mee out of position at left back for 6 months whilst we had the left back in the league sat on the bench. He isn't always right.

jrgbfc wrote:The same Dyche who played Ben Mee out of position at left back for 6 months whilst we had the left back in the league sat on the bench. He isn't always right.

Yes the same one. He’s absolutely clueless. I think you should take over as you know everything

jrgbfc wrote:The same Dyche who played Ben Mee out of position at left back for 6 months whilst we had the left back in the league sat on the bench. He isn't always right.

Did you know at the time we had the 'best' left back in the league on the bench, or is hindsight helping you out here?

Both our best two full backs have been sat on the bench all season Bardsley and Taylor, their time has surly come

cricketfieldclarets wrote:People on here wont be happy until our best left back is dropped.

Our best left back has been dropped.

Dyche made two mistakes yesterday he shouldn't have played cork by doing this he changed the midfield from the Leicester game who played quite well.

He should of left Brady out wide and Hendrick in the middle, Jack Cork has been poor for quite a while now saying that he played better today against Chelsea but his overall game over a good few months going back to last season has been poor.

Taylor should also have been left in the team he help's McNeil out better than Pieters.

ClaretMov wrote:Dyche made two mistakes yesterday he shouldn't have played cork by doing this he changed the midfield from the Leicester game who played quite well.

He should of left Brady out wide and Hendrick in the middle, Jack Cork has been poor for quite a while now saying that he played better today against Chelsea but his overall game over a good few months going back to last season has been poor.

Taylor should also have been left in the team he help's McNeil out better than Pieters.

Cork played well yesterday.

Thought Cork looked lightweight.

ksrclaret wrote:I'm amazed anyone can dispassionately look at the respective performances of Pieters and Taylor, and conclude that Pieters is the better choice at left-back.

Well the manager obviously does!

Blackrod wrote:Thought Cork looked lightweight.

Yeah, I agree. Gets knocked about far too easily. He did a lot of leg-work running about breaking up play, but sometimes I would love to see him drive forward with the ball into space rather than always opting for a simple sideways or backwards pass.

Maybe all the clapping put me off but I thought he drove forward a few times in the game. Certainly the CM who was bringing more to the table.

Taylor must have ejaculated up Hibs' missus. The dislike for him is unreal.

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Best left back in who's opinion?

Are we talking about the one that continually backs off so the opponent can take all night to put his cross in?

You're obviously an expert left back. How would you solve this?

Well obviously Dyches for one. Not to mention the stats, particularly assists.

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:I think Dyche brought him in and now loses face if he drops him.

Like Dyche of all people is bothered about losing face. Hes as intelligent a manager there is

burnleymik wrote:Yeah, I agree. Gets knocked about far too easily. He did a lot of leg-work running about breaking up play, but sometimes I would love to see him drive forward with the ball into space rather than always opting for a simple sideways or backwards pass.

I don't get this.
I've complained for a long time now that he isn't strong enough in the tackle, just as you state, but yesterday was his best game for a hell of a long time, and he did win balls in the tackle, and did use it well when he won it. It's easy to forget just how good the 2 centre mids he and Westwood were up against yesterday, but if Jack continues to play like yesterday, I'll be delighted.

As for Charlie it's difficult. I think there isn't a lot between them. I would go Charlie for his age, and he will only get better with more game time, but Sean has always been loyal, and Pieters hasn't done a lot wrong to warrant dropping. He could have been closer to Willian for the 4th, but nobody is perfect. If we picked the team based on one mistake and your out, then Tarks and Westwood will be on the bench next Saturday.......

Murger wrote:Taylor must have ejaculated up Hibs' missus. The dislike for him is unreal.

Nice comment. I think most on here would let our reserve left back do what they want with their Mrs...

Leisure wrote:Well the manager obviously does!

I refer you back to my original comment.

Colburn_Claret wrote:
As for Charlie it's difficult. I think there isn't a lot between them. I would go Charlie for his age, and he will only get better with more game time, but Sean has always been loyal, and Pieters hasn't done a lot wrong to warrant dropping. He could have been closer to Willian for the 4th, but nobody is perfect. If we picked the team based on one mistake and your out, then Tarks and Westwood will be on the bench next Saturday.......

Totally agree...

Pieters was a bit unlucky with the first half shot that deflected straight to the keeper but let’s all lambast him for the 4th goal when the games already gone.

The person Dyche has intimated as to most of the blame is Tarky because it is really the 2nd goal that is the killer and that’s the one Dyche is most disappointed about..

Leisure wrote:Well the manager obviously does!

Except that's a misrepresentation. Surely dyche has been here long enough for people to get how he works by now?

The shirt is yours until you do stop performing well enough to keep it or get injured. Dyche doesn't do 'better' players. That's the point of us having competition in the squad.

Hasn’t Pieters got more assists than Taylor got in the whole of last season already?

We Still haven’t replaced the quality of Ward in his prime for us imho

Giftonsnoidea wrote:Hasn’t Pieters got more assists than Taylor got in the whole of last season already?

We Still haven’t replaced the quality of Ward in his prime for us imho

More than his tim here. But oh. Thats luck.

Giftonsnoidea wrote:Hasn’t Pieters got more assists than Taylor got in the whole of last season already?

We Still haven’t replaced the quality of Ward in his prime for us imho

He's also got more than Ward got in his entire Burnley PL career, so maybe using assists isn't the best method of rating left backs.

Bar McNeil all the midfield were outplayed and out classed