Is this what the games come to?

Even better. After all that. Wrong decision

I know it's first season but it's turning into a complete farce. It will stop people going on if they don't sort it out quickly.

Something has to be done to stop the idiots that make up these rules from killing the game they have clearly never played themselves.

A coordinated protest at all premier league grounds would make a statement.

Absolutely laughable. Delaying gamed for so long for decisions still to be wrong.

Complete joke.

It's certainly having a negative impact on the game. Should be scrapped.

If you have to watch something over and over again and still aren't sure then its blatantly not a "clear and obvious error".

PremierLeagueClass wrote:Something has to be done to stop the idiots that make up these rules from killing the game they have clearly never played themselves.

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Couldnt have put it better.

The problem they have now is people, me included, don't know what's a foul anymore, Leicester goal disallowed for a touch and no pen yesterday for similar on Rodriguez. What is and what isn't handball

****. This looks awful.

Sons reaction

Son sent off. Horrendous injury to Gomes but he should be booked for the challenge not tge outcome.
He actually looked to distressed at what he’d done to continue.
Not for the squeamish.

jrgbfc wrote:If you have to watch something over and over again and still aren't sure then its blatantly not a "clear and obvious error".

Agree.


This one didnt need watching over and over.

Get used to it folks --it is here to stay. They will just keep changing the Laws of the Game to accommodate whatever they decide to do next.
The game is goosed!

Not a Red card regardless of the injury. Referee produced Yellow card, got caught up in the incident and then overreacted.

The injury has come from the collision with Aurier.

Tricky Trevor wrote:Son sent off. Horrendous injury to Gomes but he should be booked for the challenge not tge outcome.
He actually looked to distressed at what he’d done to continue.

Yep wasnt directly the foul. Feel for both players.

I'm listening to this on 5 Live, sounds like a terrible game with players falling down all over the place. Son did Gomez then?

Not sure how much longer Silva can cling on if they get beat again today.

Never a red card and I feel for Son who was clearly distressed. Horrible injury to look at.

People on the front row were screaming. Horrible injury.

It wasnt even son who caused that it was aurier who broke his leg

Red card wrong in my view but distressing to see a player injured like that. Horrible to watch.

boatshed bill wrote:I'm listening to this on 5 Live, sounds like a terrible game with players falling down all over the place. Son did Gomez then?

Yea, Gomes had elbowed Son on the nose less than a minute earlier. The outcome was not caused by the tackle but by a later collision.

DomBFC1882 wrote:It wasnt even son who caused that it was aurier who broke his leg

I thought that. Looked to be the second impact.

Son just pushed him, was no malice etc, was the awkward fall / clash with Aureo ( sp) that broke it.

How VAR hasn't looked at it, is mind boggling.
He had yellow out, saw the injury and thought ouch I'll change it to a red...

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I thought that. Looked to be the second impact.

Yes mate hence why sky showed the son challenge but stopped it just before aurier was about to tackle

There has been a lot of bad stuff going on and the VAR has not helped. Lot of head injuries and off the ball stuff. Richarlison especially has been the lead wind up merchant.

MACCA wrote:Son just pushed him, was no malice etc, was the awkward fall / clash with Aureo ( sp) that broke it.

How VAR hasn't looked at it, is mind boggling.
He had yellow out, saw the injury and thought ouch I'll change it to a red...

Agree, disgraceful VAR did not overrule.

MACCA wrote:Son just pushed him, was no malice etc, was the awkward fall / clash with Aureo ( sp) that broke it.

How VAR hasn't looked at it, is mind boggling.
He had yellow out, saw the injury and thought ouch I'll change it to a red...

Or has he switched to red based on what he’s been told by VAR?

Have we ever seen VAR override a card decision?

Losing count of VAR errors this weekend

ClaretTony wrote:Or has he switched to red based on what he’s been told by VAR?

Either way it was wrong

FCBurnley wrote:Either way it was wrong

It’s definitely wrong but Atkinson hadn’t gone for the red initially. Either way though, that looks a horrible, horrible injury.

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ClaretTony wrote:Or has he switched to red based on what he’s been told by VAR?

I'd hope not, as VAR must have seen what we all did, and that was purely a push.

If VAR said change it, then Taylor needs sacking

And its cost spurs 2 points minimum

Horrible injury compounded by horrible refereeing. And now Everton score which we don’t want

MACCA wrote:I'd hope not, as VAR must have seen what we all did, and that was purely a push.

If VAR said change it, then Taylor needs sacking

Well I’m still not sure how Taylor decided the handball wasn’t a pen

VAR is an absolute disgrace. Stonewall penalty for spurs earlier for a start not to mention why the hell son isnt back on the pitch having clearly seen it wasnt him that made the tackle. VAR is si backwards its untrue

ClaretTony wrote:Well I’m still not sure how Taylor decided the handball wasn’t a pen

True, 2 awful calls

Agree with post 27 from FCBurnley. Been a niggly scruffy & game with Richarlson much to the fore in terms of diving and giving lip and stomping about like a spoiled 12 year old. The delays for VAR taking ages then just sticking with the refs decisions hasn't helped at all.
I thought Son being dived into by a falling defender and the handball from Alli were both pens by today's standards but neither given.
Rules/process around VAR needs clarifying urgently, it's not working anything like as well as the review systems at rugby or cricket.
Son's red looked to be a reaction to the seriousness of the injury rather than the actual contact.

Poor game. The red card should be overturned.

VAR again showing the officials as worse than useless.

Even with multiple views they still mess it up.

LeadBelly wrote:it's not working anything like as well as the review systems at rugby or cricket.

I don't watch rugby but it can't work like cricket because all decisions in cricket are objective. How the football authorities believe technology is suitable for subjective decisions is beyond me. It's just passing it from one referee's opinion to another's.

PremierLeagueClass wrote:Something has to be done to stop the idiots that make up these rules from killing the game they have clearly never played themselves.

A coordinated protest at all premier league grounds would make a statement.

It's true, the American media have never played the game.
That doesn't stop the PL clubs accepting their multi million pound deals to introduce VAR.

Advertising breaks just around the corner !

Am I alone in thinking the ball came of Minas shoulder and not Allis arm.

Some interesting commentary about the Gomez injury on 5 Live, at first it sounded as if Son had a bit of the red mist and that he caused the injury.
The attitude to the incident seemed to soften a bit later

We're making a dogs dinner of this VAR.

Just put the replays on the big screen and let the ref decide.

PGMOL have come out and said it was the challenge that directly resulted in the terrible injury, therefore it's endangering the safety of a player and a red card.

It's been an interesting weekend for Martin Atkinson with his VAR calls yesterday in Liverpool's game and then his visit to Merseyside today.

Quickenthetempo wrote:We're making a dogs dinner of this VAR.

Just put the replays on the big screen and let the ref decide.

What about grounds that don’t have a big screen?