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Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:37 pm
by s6t9a2f3f
Yet again SD proves the doubters wrong with a superb 6/6 points against 2 top teams and puts us on 30 points and gives the fans and players a huge boost of confidence at such a key part of the season. With the well known issues with budgets / recruitment he's yet again having to prove himself and coming through with flying colours again.
Humble Pie anyone ???
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:39 pm
by Bosscat
s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:37 pm
Yet again SD proves the doubters wrong with a superb 6/6 points against 2 top teams and puts us on 30 points and gives the fans and players a huge boost of confidence at such a key part of the season. With the well known issues with budgets / recruitment he's yet again having to prove himself and coming through with flying colours again.
Humble Pie anyone ???
I wonder how many you will catch
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:40 pm
by dpinsussex
Not me. Never slated SD
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:43 pm
by Darnhill Claret
As we are only 5 points off fifth, this could be another top ten finish and we might even have our highest finish ever.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:43 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Premier league finish that is.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:47 pm
by Dark Cloud
Not me. I have never called for SD to go, BUT I have said that we need to (sensibly) recruit and I still believe we still need to recruit this window as the way we play means that performing to the very limits of our ability, like we have in the past couple of games, is almost impossible to keep up indefinitely for an ageing squad like ours. We still need to be looking ahead, but as ALWAYS, in Dyche we trust!!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:49 pm
by thatdberight
Not me. I still think there's two things you can do to stay managing this club; win or play attractive football. Do enough of the former and the latter will be irrelevant. He will, I'm pretty sure, do enough this year to stay in place.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:50 pm
by ElectroClaret
Not me, guv.
I'm not Spartacus.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:12 pm
by BOYSIE31
Not me but 2 cracking results and hopefully sets us up for a major rebuild this summer - as relegation would be unthinkable with the job in hand
And im still far from happy about recruitment but will see what happens - still have a feeling Dyche will walk in the summer though
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:17 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Not me as such as I still we are too rigid in our play at times. We need a plan B or C when things arent working and utilise the squad more.
For now though give me a slice
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:38 pm
by TVC15
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:12 pm
Not me
haha - this is funnier than Phil Jones getting hit in the face last night !!
You've done nothing but criticise the manager, the style of play, the results, the board, the transfer record etc for the last god knows how long.
And you still don't think you deserve a bit of pie !!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:53 pm
by fidelcastro
TVC15 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:38 pm
haha - this is funnier than Phil Jones getting hit in the face last night !!
You've done nothing but criticise the manager, the style of play, the results, the board, the transfer record etc for the last god knows how long.
And you still don't think you deserve a bit of pie !!
Ha ha, he does... a custard pie!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:54 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Lets be honest the serial moaners would rather starve to death than eat a slice of humble pie
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:55 pm
by Vegas Claret
Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:17 pm
Not me as such as I still we are too rigid in our play at times. We need a plan B or C when things arent working and utilise the squad more.
For now though give me a slice
watch the Tarks interview from last night on the offical site - very interesting regarding tactics
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:56 pm
by fidelcastro
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:54 pm
Lets be honest the serial moaners would rather starve to death than eat a slice of humble pie
My moaners XI changes less frequently than a Sean Dyche team!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:03 pm
by houseboy
I have criticised Dyche a few times but NEVER called for his head. I have said I hope he turns it round 'for his own good' because he was getting a lot of stick. I have said he isn't God, that he makes mistakes, that he takes cups too lightly, that he is stubborn and sticks with players rather longer than he should and those comments are, in my view, still valid, but I hope he sticks around for a good while yet because he kinda does a good job for us (
). I hope he's still here to get stick at times in 10 years.
By the way I have never ever come across a humble bush in my life so where do these humbles actually grow? Do haggis eat them?
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:09 pm
by claret2018
Not quite, but my Lowton Humble Pie is tasting delicious
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:10 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Its 2 results. It's easy to point score after a win. The first result I thought we were extremely lucky against Leicester but our performance was much improved so deserved the luck. Last night was back to the Burnley we know. Much more positive and the players wanted it more. There are still valid points to be answered though. What is out long term strategy? Can dyche create a plan b? Can we play mixed football more often? He deserves a lot of credit for the last 2 results, just as he deserves criticism when the team are falling short of his own high standards. Let's not pretend it's all rosy in the garden because of 2 results, but let's enjoy them and the signs are looking a lot better that we are finally mixing it up a bit again.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:12 pm
by Winstonswhite
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:12 pm
Not me but 2 cracking results and hopefully sets us up for a major rebuild this summer - as relegation would be unthinkable with the job in hand
And im still far from happy about recruitment but will see what happens - still have a feeling Dyche will walk in the summer though
Why on earth would Dyche walk- and more to the point, where to??!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:14 pm
by Rubstuds
Ive come across many a humble bush.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:14 pm
by alboclaret
I have been critical of dyche.
Glad he/we have these 2 results.
Last night we were really good at the things we have been good at over the year.
Back to our best.
But I do believe the criticism was fair though. We were total tosh at pretty much every aspect of our game recently. What crossed my mind was (and that's as far as it went) that it was a possibility he had lost the dressing room. Really glad that theory has been blown out of the water completely this wk. The celebrations of the players at the end last night was good to see and shows they together also
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:49 pm
by ElectroClaret
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:10 pm
...I thought we were extremely lucky against Leicester....
How so? For a start, their goal shouldn't have stood because of the foul on Cork in the build up. Fair enough, we weren't brilliant, but the second half in particular we more than matched them and they're a very good side.
After we went in front I was never worried.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:55 pm
by jojomk1
Never liked his hoofball tactics and said so many times
Thought we did play a bit more on the ground last night and think the appearance of Jay had a lot to do with that
Still not happy with the transfer policy (on which he has the final say) which has seen no improvement in the starting 11 for two years
There - I've said it, and feel so much better for it
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:04 pm
by TVC15
jojomk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:55 pm
Never liked his hoofball tactics and said so many times
Thought we did play a bit more on the ground last night and think the appearance of Jay had a lot to do with that
Still not happy with the transfer policy (on which he has the final say) which has seen no improvement in the starting 11 for two years
There - I've said it, and feel so much better for it
SD 100% does not have the final say on the transfer policy. Where have you got that from ? Surely you have heard his less than subtle remarks about Garlick and the purse strings.
We know that SD is the one choosing the players he wants but we don’t know all the players that he wants where the chairman says no or fails to land the deal. We’ve got a good idea of the names of a few of these from the media talk but no idea as to whether these are true or why the deals don’t get completed. Some will be because they are obviously more than we are prepared to spend but a no doubt some will be because players don’t want to come, clubs don’t or have to sell, and some because the fees or wages wanted are totally ridiculous.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:11 pm
by Grumps
The sooner people realise that a few bad results and performances lead to criticism, a few good results lead to praise. It happens at every club, always has, always will. The sooner some on here come to terms with this, the easier life will be on this message board
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:19 pm
by cockneyclaret
Strange how we reverted back to playing football and the results have changed.
Keep it up!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:22 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
None required here. Dyche himself will know recent performances and results weren’t good enough and equally will know we need to strengthen in at least two or three keyareas.
I’d be more worried had everyone thought everything was perfect when it wasn’t. And still isn’t.
But enjoy the big wins while we can.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:26 pm
by houseboy
Winstonswhite wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:12 pm
Why on earth would Dyche walk- and more to the point, where to??!
Agreed. The good thing about our style is that nobody wants him. Those fans who want 'pretty' football wouldn't tolerate him. Although as he has hinted himself the style might change if he had a ton of money to spend. But to get a ton of money he'd have to go to a big club and a big club these days always wants a 'fashionable' foreign manager. I suppose it's a catch 22 - which is good for us.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:27 pm
by houseboy
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:29 pm
by houseboy
Rubstuds wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Ive come across many a humble bush.
Did you 'rub studs' with them?
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:30 pm
by Bosscat
Rubstuds wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Ive come across many a humble bush.
What you do in the undergrowth is your own concern
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:36 pm
by houseboy
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:10 pm
Its 2 results. It's easy to point score after a win. The first result I thought we were extremely lucky against Leicester but our performance was much improved so deserved the luck. Last night was back to the Burnley we know. Much more positive and the players wanted it more. There are still valid points to be answered though. What is out long term strategy? Can dyche create a plan b? Can we play mixed football more often? He deserves a lot of credit for the last 2 results, just as he deserves criticism when the team are falling short of his own high standards. Let's not pretend it's all rosy in the garden because of 2 results, but let's enjoy them and the signs are looking a lot better that we are finally mixing it up a bit again.
In what way were we lucky against Leicester? Are you referring to the saves Pope made in the second half? That's what we pay him for and he's very good at it. Were our goals 'lucky'? I think not. Were we lucky when they scored a goal after a clear foul in the run up? We were okay in the first half and very good in the second. I fail to see how in any way we were lucky. We were luckier last night when we could easilly have been 3-0 down before we scored but for their inability to convert. After we scored they pretty much went to pieces. You make your luck and it played no part on Sunday in my view.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:39 pm
by Grumps
Excellent
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:41 pm
by Aclaret
Must admit I've eaten the crust of the SD humble pie. After that performance at Everton on Boxing Day I had my doubts about him.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:06 pm
by Leicsclaret
I’ve had massive concerns but he seems to have gone back to the way he knows best. Press a team and mix the play not just hoof ball. I hope this doesn’t mean we will not recruit new players though as not is still a worry
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:15 pm
by dandeclaret
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:10 pm
Its 2 results. It's easy to point score after a win.
Nah,
It’s 30 points
It’s a 4th season in the prem
It’s the collection of some of the best players you’re ever likely to see at Burnley.
It’s a new training ground.
It’s good morals. It’s improving the impact on the community month on month.
It’s about punching above your weight for so many years.
It’s about resilience, hard work and togetherness.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:40 pm
by gandhisflipflop
houseboy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:36 pm
In what way were we lucky against Leicester? Are you referring to the saves Pope made in the second half? That's what we pay him for and he's very good at it. Were our goals 'lucky'? I think not. Were we lucky when they scored a goal after a clear foul in the run up? We were okay in the first half and very good in the second. I fail to see how in any way we were lucky. We were luckier last night when we could easilly have been 3-0 down before we scored but for their inability to convert. After we scored they pretty much went to pieces. You make your luck and it played no part on Sunday in my view.
I have clearly said we deserved the luck. It wasn't a foul, and cork dallied too long. But what I'm really referring to is the penalty save at 1-1 and the numerous saves pope made that were good chances for Leicester. I'm not taking anything away from our performance as I clearly stated that our performance meant that we deserved the luck and the result, I'm saying it could quite easily have been another defeat on another day.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:07 pm
by JohnDearyMe
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:15 pm
Nah,
It’s 30 points
It’s a 4th season in the prem
It’s the collection of some of the best players you’re ever likely to see at Burnley.
It’s a new training ground.
It’s good morals. It’s improving the impact on the community month on month.
It’s about punching above your weight for so many years.
It’s about resilience, hard work and togetherness.
Absolutely spot on
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:17 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
dpinsussex wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:40 pm
Not me. Never slated SD
Not for me. Always had faith in SG, Win Lose or Draw
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:17 pm
by ksrclaret
Interesting concept, the eating of humble pie, when applied to the correct situation. This however is not the correct situation.
We were playing rubbish football and almost every poster on here agreed we were playing rubbish football. Then, with the addition of Jay to the starting 11, we have started to play some really good football and we have looked so much better for it. Again, almost every poster on here has agreed to that end.
Can't help but feel there really isn't anything to see on this thread.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:19 pm
by Bosscat
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:17 pm
Interesting concept, the eating of humble pie, when applied to the correct situation. This however is not the correct situation.
We were playing rubbish football and almost every poster on here agreed we were playing rubbish football. Then, with the addition of Jay to the starting 11, we have started to play some really good football and we have looked so much better for it. Again, almost every poster on here has agreed to that end.
Can't help but feel there really isn't anything to see on this thread.
And the winner is......
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:21 pm
by ksrclaret
m8 wich bit did u disagree wif m8 ????????????
m8
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:24 pm
by ksrclaret
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:45 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Only one of the Dyche bashers replying to this thread how odd!
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:59 pm
by Nonayforever
Gloaters are every bit as annoying as moaners.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:02 pm
by warksclaret
In fairness after the poor Villa performance I challenged his over-loyalty, stubborness, lack of tactics and research on the opposition, and unwillingness to play certain players (Drinkwater and Vydra), plus the delay in substitutions. Its quite a list but I have never wanted him to leave because he has achieved the impossible with our club
The one thing I would say-the last two results were unexpected and fantastic performances, however we get carried away and when we lose and go on a losing run it appears like the end of the world. We are just as capable of a bad run as well as an outstanding one. I believe the team that finishes 18th could easily get 38-41 points, so some way yet to go yet before we can relax
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:03 pm
by Giftonsnoidea
Play badly get slated
Play well get praised
Simple stuff really
If only we had Jay one year earlier we’d have prob beaten Olympiakos
I’m glad we’re playing some football on the floor again, long may it continue
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:28 pm
by scouseclaret
The “get-out” for the Dyche-sceptics appears to be “Ah, but we’ve gone from hoofing it to playing good football again, just like I said we should”.
The truth, of course, is that there hasn’t been any great change in tactics or personnel. We’ve simply gone from a period of playing badly into a period of playing much better. It’s what we generally call “form”. We’ve been through it several times under SD and on each occasion, groups of posters on here start stamping their feet and demanding that we remove the best manager we’ve had in most of our lifetimes, even though we always come through it and enjoy occasions like last night.
Maybe one day they’ll learn.
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:31 pm
by ksrclaret
scouseclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:28 pm
The “get-out” for the Dyche-sceptics appears to be “Ah, but we’ve gone from hoofing it to playing good football again, just like I said we should”.
The truth, of course, is that there hasn’t been any great change in tactics or personnel. We’ve simply gone from a period of playing badly into a period of playing much better. It’s what we generally call “form”. We’ve been through it several times under SD and on each occasion, groups of posters on here start stamping their feet and demanding that we remove the best manager we’ve had in most of our lifetimes, even though we always come through it and enjoy occasions like last night.
Maybe one day they’ll learn.
Did you not think there was a significant improvement in the football we played in the last two games, compared with, say, the Newcastle and Aston Villa home games?
I certainly did
Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:46 pm
by scouseclaret
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:31 pm
Did you not think there was a significant improvement in the football we played in the last two games, compared with, say, the Newcastle and Aston Villa home games?
I certainly did
Yeah, like I said, we played a lot better, but it was pretty much the same team. All over the pitch - Lowton, Mee and Tarko, Cork and Westy, - individual performances were much better. The only significant change has been to deal with a clearly unfit Barnes and give Jayrod a go, but I don’t believe there’s been a radical change in tactics. It’s just form.
