On loan to Matlock Town from Alfreton Town, Jordan Sinnott was assaulted last night and died this evening having suffered a fractured skull. Just 25, he’s the son of former Bradford City and Huddersfield player Lee Sinnott.

An 27 year old is being detained by the police for what is now a murder investigation.

Bloody hell

I despair at times. Young lad, life ahead of him. What an awful world it is at times.

Sky announced he had died at lunch and then had to apologise.
Dreadful waste of a life. RIP Jordan.

My cousin lives in Matlock and his son supports Matlock Town. He messaged me earlier this evening.

Not one to speculate Arguing disagreements and conflict never end well....

It’s like the Wild West in a lot of places these days. Very sad and an absolute waste of a life likely inflicted by a waste of space...

Needless. RIP.

No one should ever go out for a few beers and not make it home. What a tragic, unnecessary waste of a young life.

That’s awful, thoughts are with his family.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:45 pm

I despair at times. Young lad, life ahead of him. What an awful world it is at times.

I agree wholeheartedly with that sentence.

Supposedly a fight involving 8 others, he fallen and banged his head. So sad for all his friends and family

We’ve probably all been involved in a fight at some point in our life’s , it’s scary to think one punch could can ruin so many life’s

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:49 am

Supposedly a fight involving 8 others, he fallen and banged his head. So sad for all his friends and family

We’ve probably all been involved in a fight at some point in our life’s , it’s scary to think one punch could can ruin so many life’s

Sounds like there was two incidents. Big fight at a pub earlier on then they've all bumped into each other again later on in town going off the police statement.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:01 am

Sounds like there was two incidents. Big fight at a pub earlier on then they've all bumped into each other again later on in town going off the police statement.

Like I say, from the age of 17-24ish I saw this on a regular basis on nights out, and have seen heads hit the floor hard, it knocks you sick because you know how serious these things can be. It’s the call you dread as a parent.

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:46 pm

.....he had died at lunch and then had to apologise.

I’ve read this several times and still don’t understand.

Certainly puts petty squabbles on here into perspective. Terrible.

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:23 am

I’ve read this several times and still don’t understand.

There were reports that he had died earlier in the day but then the police came out and said he was still alive. He must have sadly passed Away later than was originally reported.

Does it really matter when he passed away?
All that matters is that a young man, has needlessly lost his life.
Sadly, his family and friends are left to pick up the pieces, and my thoughts are with them.

Barry_Chuckle wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:01 am

Does it really matter when he passed away?
All that matters is that a young man, has needlessly lost his life.
Sadly, his family and friends are left to pick up the pieces, and my thoughts are with them.

I think the issue being that at the time they were on air reporting that he was dead, he was actually still alive.
Quite distressing I imagine to hear that, then hear that he's still alive and then to hear again in the evening that he had now passed away.

I'd seen Matlock game at Mickleover had been postponed.
No idea the reason though. Really is a tragic waste.

R. I. P Jordan

Seen some footage doing the rounds on social media, disgusting and horrific. Culprits will be easily identified, I hope justice is served.
RIP Jordan

Norfolk Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:38 pm

Seen some footage doing the rounds on social media, disgusting and horrific. Culprits will be easily identified, I hope justice is served.
RIP Jordan

People sharing it all over.

Two questions.

What the **** goes through someone’s head to film it.
What the **** goes through someone’s head to share it.

Absolutely disgusting on both fronts.

Sorry a third

What the **** goes through someone’s head to want to watch it.

Cricketfieldclarets

1&2 - I have no idea
3. I didn’t know what it was until the report came through after it had finished.

If anything I just wanted to highlight the fact that the sick individuals who did this will be easily identified and hopefully get the sentence they deserve.

I was sent this video too and didn't realise what it was until too late, deleted from phone. What I did see sickened me once you realise the consequence more so, I have seen some terrible things in my life but what those young idiots did is unforgivable and I really hope they get whats coming to them.

snail12345

Done exactly the same, and briefed the ******* who sent me it.

What sort of person videos something like this , for god sake help the lad or at least try

snail12345 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:35 pm

I was sent this video too and didn't realise what it was until too late, deleted from phone. What I did see sickened me once you realise the consequence more so, I have seen some terrible things in my life but what those young idiots did is unforgivable and I really hope they get whats coming to them.

Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald..The Vietnamese Guy having is brains blown out..the two soldiers murdered by the IRA..The twin towers ..the Live Bombing "shock and Awe" of Iraq ..all live and on the BBC now they were Horrific.

Vid on whatsapp are at a train station

Im glad somebody HAS filmed it to identify the culprits

Norfolk Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:53 am

Cricketfieldclarets

1&2 - I have no idea
3. I didn’t know what it was until the report came through after it had finished.

If anything I just wanted to highlight the fact that the sick individuals who did this will be easily identified and hopefully get the sentence they deserve.

I think describing them as sick individuals is somewhat harsh. It was a fight (which I think we have all been in at some point - I know I have) and someone has fallen and hit there head badly, could happen to anyone. If that is the case the culprits are probably more upset than you because they stand going to jail on a manslaughter charge after getting in a fight, a fight in which, I'm guessing, the lad who died was taking part. It's a terrible tragedy but one we all have to relflect on when we think about what we have done in the past and how we may have just 'got lucky'.

joey13 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:58 pm

What sort of person videos something like this , for god sake help the lad or at least try

100 percent. Help him. Or worse case use the phone for what its intended to - ring for help!

Thankfuly not seen it. Some very strange people about these days with the stuff that gets shared on social media and whatsapp. On the plus side it gives you an insight into folk!

Hopey1786 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:16 pm

Vid on whatsapp are at a train station

Im glad somebody HAS filmed it to identify the culprits

Or they could have just rung the police and still identified them!

houseboy wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:27 pm

I think describing them as sick individuals is somewhat harsh. It was a fight (which I think we have all been in at some point - I know I have) and someone has fallen and hit there head badly, could happen to anyone. If that is the case the culprits are probably more upset than you because they stand going to jail on a manslaughter charge after getting in a fight, a fight in which, I'm guessing, the lad who died was taking part. It's a terrible tragedy but one we all have to relflect on when we think about what we have done in the past and how we may have just 'got lucky'.

Sums it up really..as sad as it is.

houseboy wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:27 pm

I think describing them as sick individuals is somewhat harsh. It was a fight (which I think we have all been in at some point - I know I have) and someone has fallen and hit there head badly, could happen to anyone. If that is the case the culprits are probably more upset than you because they stand going to jail on a manslaughter charge after getting in a fight, a fight in which, I'm guessing, the lad who died was taking part. It's a terrible tragedy but one we all have to relflect on when we think about what we have done in the past and how we may have just 'got lucky'.

no disputing that. Most if not all of us have been involved in fights. I know I have. And we all know the consequences. Heat of the monent and all that. And we have all done things we probably regret.

But from the reports online (having not seen it) kicking a guy repeatedly in the head on the ground is pretty sick and rarely if any excuse for that. As is filming it.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:35 pm

Or they could have just rung the police and still identified them!

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:35 pm

Or they could have just rung the police and still identified them!

Not sure about anyone else and I haven't seen the footage but lets suppose that someone has already called the police and also lets suppose that the person filming the incident knows this - I'd say that videoing the incident with their phone is the right thing to do to provide the evidence to the police. I certainly would try to intervene, but then I'm a bloke capable of handling myself in a difficult situation - perhaps the person filming didn't feel safe to intervene and did what they thought was right to help.

Of course the footage should never make it to public consumption like it has, but again there's nothing to say the person filming actually shared the footage in the first place.

You cant always assume that a person filming these types of incidents are wrong.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:38 pm

no disputing that. Most if not all of us have been involved in fights. I know I have. And we all know the consequences. Heat of the monent and all that. And we have all done things we probably regret.

But from the reports online (having not seen it) kicking a guy repeatedly in the head on the ground is pretty sick and rarely if any excuse for that. As is filming it.

I haven't seen the video (and don't want to) but if that is the case then it puts a different light on it, it's just that at the time of my post it looked like just a terrible accident (avoidable of course but nevertheless not intended). Perhaps we should await the report from the police.

houseboy wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:11 pm

I haven't seen the video (and don't want to) but if that is the case then it puts a different light on it, it's just that at the time of my post it looked like just a terrible accident (avoidable of course but nevertheless not intended). Perhaps we should await the report from the police.

Perpetrators certainly need to be charged with murder

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:01 pm

Not sure about anyone else and I haven't seen the footage but lets suppose that someone has already called the police and also lets suppose that the person filming the incident knows this - I'd say that videoing the incident with their phone is the right thing to do to provide the evidence to the police. I certainly would try to intervene, but then I'm a bloke capable of handling myself in a difficult situation - perhaps the person filming didn't feel safe to intervene and did what they thought was right to help.

Of course the footage should never make it to public consumption like it has, but again there's nothing to say the person filming actually shared the footage in the first place.

You cant always assume that a person filming these types of incidents are wrong.

Maybe I’m a cynic. But it’s increasingly common that people film this sort of thing for no reason other than to share for attention and likes.

In this case if they didn’t share it who did?

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:56 pm

Maybe I’m a cynic. But it’s increasingly common that people film this sort of thing for no reason other than to share for attention and likes.

In this case if they didn’t share it who did?

The biggest cynic i know of

Hopey1786 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:12 pm

The biggest cynic i know of

So what do you think they filmed it for?

joey13 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:48 pm

Perpetrators certainly need to be charged with murder

If they have basically kicked him to death then absolutely, without a doubt, but if he fell and hit his head it would be manslaughter. As I say I haven't seen or officially heard what happened so I wouldn't know.

It’s a good job somebody did film it. The culprit can have no defence, this was pure murder.

Stproc wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:15 pm

It’s a good job somebody did film it. The culprit can have no defence, this was pure murder.

Had they intervened in some way perhaps it would just be assault.

I'm no expert but can't social media posts and especially videos jeopardise the trial?

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:25 pm

I'm no expert but can't social media posts and especially videos jeopardise the trial?

I had thought the same. I know they can do. Without seeing this I suspect possibly not in this case. But it is common that they don’t want any evidence in the public domain. At the very least it helps form any sort of defence as the accused will have access to it. Or their solicitors / barristers will.

Surely it would be an issue if any of the jurors had already seen the video as well?

As a pensioner myself,used to love going out for a drink,lovely atmosphere,everybody knew each other,knock a drink over,sorry,get you another one,these days,all pumped up like body builders,drink,drugs etc,one punch does kill,pure innocent victims,wrong place,wrong time,drink in home,safe as houses,unless anybody breaks in,Sad Sad World today,Bring the 70s back,When we won the Second Division,Dobbo and All the Lads,Happy Days,never forgotten! So So Sorry for the lad.

k90bfc wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:22 pm

As a pensioner myself,used to love going out for a drink,lovely atmosphere,everybody knew each other,knock a drink over,sorry,get you another one,these days,all pumped up like body builders,drink,drugs etc,one punch does kill,pure innocent victims,wrong place,wrong time,drink in home,safe as houses,unless anybody breaks in,Sad Sad World today,Bring the 70s back,When we won the Second Division,Dobbo and All the Lads,Happy Days,never forgotten! So So Sorry for the lad.

You didnt drink in the Concorde or white Lion then?

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm

So what do you think they filmed it for?

To pass to police as reported in many newspapers today

Hopey1786 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:44 pm

To pass to police as reported in many newspapers today

Really?

I’ve not seen it so won’t comment any further. But it must be the exception to the modern rule if so.