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Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:47 am
by claret10
Just seen on Sky Sports that Wolves are close to signing Daniel Podence from Olympiakos for 16 million. Thought he looked very good against us and sure he scored their goal at the Turf?

Could be a good signing for that price

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:13 am
by BOYSIE31
Yes i said sign him on after he destroyed us last August - but what do i know

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am
by NewClaret
Scored 3 goals in 15 games this season in the Greek league, and 5 in 27 last season or something. Not exactly tearing up what must be league one level?

I’d be very worried if we were shelling out £16m on a player with those stats.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:18 am
by Granny WeatherWax
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am
Scored 3 goals in 15 games this season in the Greek league, and 5 in 27 last season or something. Not exactly tearing up what must be league one level?

I’d be very worried if we were shelling out £16m on a player with those stats.
? He is a winger

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:21 am
by claret10
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am
Scored 3 goals in 15 games this season in the Greek league, and 5 in 27 last season or something. Not exactly tearing up what must be league one level?

I’d be very worried if we were shelling out £16m on a player with those stats.
Can only go off what I have seen....but thought he was excellent against us last season

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:23 am
by BOYSIE31
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am
Scored 3 goals in 15 games this season in the Greek league, and 5 in 27 last season or something. Not exactly tearing up what must be league one level?

I’d be very worried if we were shelling out £16m on a player with those stats.
Not bad for a winger

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:24 am
by BOYSIE31
claret10 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:21 am
Can only go off what I have seen....but thought he was excellent against us last season
He was in both games but we must have given our european scout a day off for both games

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:25 am
by jrgbfc
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am
Scored 3 goals in 15 games this season in the Greek league, and 5 in 27 last season or something. Not exactly tearing up what must be league one level?

I’d be very worried if we were shelling out £16m on a player with those stats.
Think that's a bit harsh. It will be a far better standard than League 1. And the player in question ran rings around us out in Athens.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:38 am
by Selby Claret
Ran rings round Gibson and Long in Greece - don't forget that ;)

(and 10 men for half an hour...)

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:39 am
by BOYSIE31
Selby Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:38 am
Ran rings round Gibson and Long in Greece - don't forget that ;)

(and 10 men for half an hour...)
And on the turf

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:40 am
by randomclaret2
Olympiakos didnt look League One level to me

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:44 am
by Jakubs Tash
BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:13 am
Yes i said sign him on after he destroyed us last August - but what do i know
Destroyed us?? He scored the goal (a tap in)...

Their main player over the two games was their no 7, Fortounis. He was excellent and head and shoulders above anyone else on their team.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:47 am
by BOYSIE31
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:44 am
Destroyed us?? He scored the goal (a tap in)...

Their main player over the two games was their no 7, Fortounis. He was excellent and head and shoulders above anyone else on their team.
Not just the goal but his movement and PACE

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:48 am
by Tall Paul
BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:13 am
Yes i said sign him on after he destroyed us last August - but what do i know
Bugger all, going off your posting history.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:01 am
by jollyjack
So some are crying out for a European scouting network. Wolves seem to be doing that and sign a player then their league is not good enough for us to recruit from.............

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 am
by Reckoner
Boysie. Its pretty obvious from your contributions that you know more than most football administrators and managers. When you were alerted to the talents of Daniel Prodence in the games against Burnley, and pushed for his signature, do you think the fact that he had only signed for Olympiakos 4 weeks before that might have made it a tricky deal to conclude?

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:34 am
by NewClaret
Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:18 am
? He is a winger
A forward though.

Wingers should score goals for me. Although I understand that’s not something we’re used to at the Turf at the moment :lol:

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:35 am
by BOYSIE31
Reckoner wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 am
Boysie. Its pretty obvious from your contributions that you know more than most football administrators and managers. When you were alerted to the talents of Daniel Prodence in the games against Burnley, and pushed for his signature, do you think the fact that he had only signed for Olympiakos 4 weeks before that might have made it a tricky deal to conclude?

So why not go for him last summer ?

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:40 am
by NewClaret
jollyjack wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:01 am
So some are crying out for a European scouting network. Wolves seem to be doing that and sign a player then their league is not good enough for us to recruit from.............
We’re a mid-table Prem team though (currently, long season yet, etc). If you assume the Prem is the, or one of the, top leagues in the world, we should be fishing in the equivalent other top leagues in the world.

Not saying there isn’t the odd gem in the Greek league or other lesser leagues (see Halaand) but I would be worried if Burnley were dropping £16m on a player from the Greek league.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:05 pm
by Reckoner
BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:35 am
So why not go for him last summer ?
Not sure, we could have done for all you know. Why didn't Wolves or the other clubs go for him last summer?

Burnley is always going to be a hard sell as long as we keep a control on our wage structure which we absolutely have to.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:27 pm
by ecc
What about Cutrone? Lasted six months at Molineux.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:32 pm
by agreenwood
Wolves have Jorge Mendes in their pocket. Or Jorge Mendes has Wolves in his pocket.

Either way, it’s not something most clubs can compete with.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:37 pm
by Hopey1786
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am
Scored 3 goals in 15 games this season in the Greek league, and 5 in 27 last season or something. Not exactly tearing up what must be league one level?

I’d be very worried if we were shelling out £16m on a player with those stats.
Them stats are irrelevant for a winger. Prob scored more than ours

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:40 pm
by TsarBomba
agreenwood wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:32 pm
Wolves have Jorge Mendes in their pocket. Or Jorge Mendes has Wolves in his pocket.

Either way, it’s not something most clubs can compete with.
Yep, and we are super prudent by PL standards when it comes to agent fees, which certainly goes against us.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:40 pm
by Vegas Claret
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:44 am
Destroyed us?? He scored the goal (a tap in)...

Their main player over the two games was their no 7, Fortounis. He was excellent and head and shoulders above anyone else on their team.
100% correct

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:49 pm
by NewClaret
Hopey1786 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:37 pm
Them stats are irrelevant for a winger. Prob scored more than ours
See my post below, where I acknowledged they would have.

Wingers should score goals, in my opinion.

But my broader point is I think £16m for a player from the Greek league is a massive risk unless he’s absolutely ripping it up, which his stats don’t suggest he is for a forward.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:54 pm
by Chester Perry
Just a thought on this transfer - The agent of this player is Mendes - https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1 ... 3622401024

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:05 pm
by edison
I wonder are there fans out there who would actually take the time to ring up the club and offer unsolicited transfer advice. The answer is probably `yes'. I wonder who at the club has to entertain such callers?

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:10 pm
by TsarBomba
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Just a thought on this transfer - The agent of this player is Mendes - Olympiakos "bought" him from a Portuguese club that Mendes owns - he is now moving to a Club that Mendes has an "extreme" level of interest in - modern football eh
Mendes engineered his move away from Sporting, and then has moved him a second time to another club he is heavily involved with, Wolves.

We’re not in bed with agents, and rightly so, but all those moaning and groaning why we don’t sign certain foreign players need to understand how modern football and the transferring of players REALLY works.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:14 pm
by edison
Were we in bed with agents when we ended up with Penny, Van der Schaff and Guerrero?

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:26 pm
by agreenwood
edison wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:14 pm
Were we in bed with agents when we ended up with Penny, Van der Schaff and Guerrero?
We might have been to some degree. Guerrero signed from an Ecudorian second tier side from memory. It was odd looking back.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:17 pm
by ClaretTony
edison wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:14 pm
Were we in bed with agents when we ended up with Penny, Van der Schaff and Guerrero?
Believe a lot of the activity was through Brendan Flood who was, to use your terminology, in bed with agents.

Re: Wolves new signing

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:29 pm
by JohnMac
Wolves are light years away from us in spending power, wages and recruitment.

The truth isn't relevant though because we are Burnley and we should be signing players before anyone else tries to make a move on them.

Especially those on here recommended at random by someone who knows how the football industry works.

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