After a bit of thinking, checking and collaborating, I think that only eleven of the 49 teams have won their first ever game in the Premier League. And it’s a really surprising list:

The only teams I can think of who WON their first ever match in the Premier League.... quite a surprising list:

Sheff Utd
Norwich
Leeds
Huddersfield
Coventry City
Bradford
Nottingham Forest
Hull
Blackpool
Portsmouth

(Feel free to add to the list if any more spring to mind)


So none of the teams who’ve won the Premier Division have ever won their first game.

Next in line...Liverpool? Nah, they didn’t win either; they lost 1-0 at Nottingham.

On trying to find some facts for this, I find that only 6 clubs have won the title.

Amazing really.

Rovers are the only champions to be relegated.

TWICE.

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:42 pm

Rovers are the only champions to be relegated.

TWICE.

No can't be surely not


I love that stat ... whenever a Woevers fan tries to give it large I relate that fact... it shuts most up

Palace, Norwich and Sunderland have been relegated the most.

Nottingham Forest were the first team to be relegated from the Premier League in the 1992–93 season.
They were joined by Middlesbrough and Crystal Palace.

How many of those teams in the 11 won on the first day of the Premier league?

Goobs wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:52 pm

How many of those teams in the 11 won on the first day of the Premier league?

Is it not self evident, or am I missing something ?

Ah, do you mean the first ever first day ? The inaugural day, in fact.

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:20 pm

Ah, do you mean the first ever first day ? The inaugural day, in fact.

Yeah that's the one. Surely that counts in the figures. Also Norwich are in the list twice?

Did you know that four former Clarets and six future Clarets played in the first weekend of the Premier League in 1992?

Former Clarets
Lee Dixon
Rick Holden
Brian Laws
Micky Phelan

Future Clarets
Damian Matthew
David May
Paul Stewart
Chris Waddle
Chris Woods
Ian Wright

Goobs wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:23 pm

Yeah that's the one. Surely that counts in the figures. Also Norwich are in the list twice?

5 wins 6 draws on week 1 of the Prem League so 5 out of 22. Unsurprising that the rate since then has remained equally low as newly promoted teams are likely to be weaker teams and therefore lose or draw more than they win.

In fact once you break it down the stat makes a lot of sense

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:34 pm

5 wins 6 draws on week 1 of the Prem League so 5 out of 22. Unsurprising that the rate since then has remained equally low as newly promoted teams are likely to be weaker teams and therefore lose or draw more than they win.

In fact once you break it down the stat makes a lot of sense

What is the 22?

Two Clubs who voted for the establishment of the Premier League have never played in it !

Goobs wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:39 pm

What is the 22?

1 Manchester United
2 Aston Villa
3 Norwich City
4 Blackburn Rovers
5 QPR
6 Liverpool
7 Sheffield Wednesday
8 Tottenham Hotspur
9 Manchester City
10 Arsenal
11 Chelsea
12 Wimbledon
13 Everton
14 Sheffield United
15 Coventry City
16 Ipswich Town
17 Leeds United
18 Southampton
19 Oldham
20 Crystal Palace
21 Middlesbrough
22 Nottingham Forest

The five original winners on day 1 in 1992/93 were:

Norwich (beat Arsenal)
Sheff Utd (beat Man Utd)
Forest (beat Liverpool)
Coventry (beat Oldham)
Leeds (beat Wimbledon)

I’m more surprise that more than 50% of the 92 clubs have played in the Premier League.

I think there have been 60 clubs who have had at least one season in the top flight since the second world war.

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:16 am

Two Clubs who voted for the establishment of the Premier League have never played in it !

Notts County and Preston ?

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:17 pm

After a bit of thinking, checking and collaborating, I think that only eleven of the 49 teams have won their first ever game in the Premier League. And it’s a really surprising list:

The only teams I can think of who WON their first ever match in the Premier League.... quite a surprising list:

Sheff Utd
Norwich
Leeds
Norwich
Huddersfield
Coventry City
Bradford
Nottingham Forest
Hull
Blackpool
Portsmouth

(Feel free to add to the list if any more spring to mind)


So none of the teams who’ve won the Premier Division have ever won their first game.

Next in line...Liverpool? Nah, they didn’t win either; they lost 1-0 at Nottingham.

You’ve got Norwich listed twice

It’s interesting that all of those teams have been relegated and none of them are what you’d call “established” premier sides

RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:18 am

I’m more surprise that more than 50% of the 92 clubs have played in the Premier League.

We were number 43 and since then there has been Blackpool, Swansea, Cardiff, Bournemouth, Brighton and Huddersfield.

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 am

Notts County and Preston ?

Notts County is correct, voted for the establishment of a Premier League, but were relegated the season prior, and never got back ... now playing in the National League !

File under, " Well, that went well ! " ....

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:17 pm

After a bit of thinking, checking and collaborating, I think that only eleven of the 49 teams have won their first ever game in the Premier League. And it’s a really surprising list:

The only teams I can think of who WON their first ever match in the Premier League.... quite a surprising list:

Sheff Utd
Norwich
Leeds
Norwich
Huddersfield
Coventry City
Bradford
Nottingham Forest
Hull
Blackpool
Portsmouth

(Feel free to add to the list if any more spring to mind)


So none of the teams who’ve won the Premier Division have ever won their first game.

Next in line...Liverpool? Nah, they didn’t win either; they lost 1-0 at Nottingham.

So is it 11 or 10 as you have Norwich twice ?

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:23 am

Notts County is correct, voted for the establishment of a Premier League, but were relegated the season prior, and never got back ... now playing in the National League !

File under, " Well, that went well ! " ....

I imagine the other one was Luton, who also ended up in the Conference.

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:04 am

You’ve got Norwich listed twice

It’s interesting that all of those teams have been relegated and none of them are what you’d call “established” premier sides

He likes Norwich

Will be interesting, sort of, to see who is team 50. Of the current top 10 in the Championship only Brentford and Preston have never played in the PL.

Sausage wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:18 pm

I imagine the other one was Luton, who also ended up in the Conference.

Correct ! It's a " well done " sausage for you today, not a silly sausage !!

Is there an all time pl total points table ? Be interesting to know what position we are in ?

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm

Is there an all time pl total points table ? Be interesting to know what position we are in ?

Not sure on all time. This is for the last decade, up to the end of 2019.

1. Manchester City – 818 points
2. Manchester United – 747 points
3. Chelsea – 740 points
4. Liverpool – 710 points
5. Tottenham – 703 points
6. Arsenal – 702 points
7. Everton – 567 points
8. West Ham – 403 points
9. Newcastle United – 391 points
10. Stoke City – 391 points
11. Southampton – 363 points
12. West Brom – 342 points
13. Swansea City – 312 points
14. Leicester City – 307 points
15. Crystal Palace – 296 points
16. Sunderland – 291 points
17. Aston Villa – 267 points
18. Fulham – 221 points
19. Burnley – 201 points
20. Bournemouth – 197 points

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:55 pm

Will be interesting, sort of, to see who is team 50. Of the current top 10 in the Championship only Brentford and Preston have never played in the PL.

Are you sure on that?
Don't think Luton Millwall or Bristol City have played in the PL. First Division-yes PL-no
The 49 are the present 20 all of the Championship minus PNE, Bristol C Brentford Millwall Luton
League One Portsmouth, Sunderland, Blackpool, MK Dons aka Wimbledon, Coventry, Ipswich, Bolton
League two Bradford, Swindon, Oldham

mdd2 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:52 pm

Are you sure on that?
Don't think Luton Millwall or Bristol City have played in the PL. First Division-yes PL-no

You're right about all three but only Bristol City are currently in the top 10 in the Championship. Millwall are 11th and Luton are 24th.

Sorry Sausage-didnt read your post properly

Thanks for this,

I think it’s ten. The list would’ve been more suited to the football league.

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm

Is there an all time pl total points table ? Be interesting to know what position we are in ?

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 pm

Not sure on all time. This is for the last decade, up to the end of 2019.

1. Manchester City – 818 points
2. Manchester United – 747 points
3. Chelsea – 740 points
4. Liverpool – 710 points
5. Tottenham – 703 points
6. Arsenal – 702 points
7. Everton – 567 points
8. West Ham – 403 points
9. Newcastle United – 391 points
10. Stoke City – 391 points
11. Southampton – 363 points
12. West Brom – 342 points
13. Swansea City – 312 points
14. Leicester City – 307 points
15. Crystal Palace – 296 points
16. Sunderland – 291 points
17. Aston Villa – 267 points
18. Fulham – 221 points
19. Burnley – 201 points
20. Bournemouth – 197 points

We are 36th...

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/premier ... gue-table/

So.… .

I have to ask.

Of these 49 is it possible for some whizz to generate a league table of number of seasons in the Premiership / Premier League (and, whilst they are at it, a league table of numbers of seasons in the old First Division / Premiership / Premier League)???

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:48 pm

We are 36th...

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/premier ... gue-table/

could be in the Top 30 next season - long way to go to catch our friends down the road - we will have done exceptionally well to pass them in the table - would be a real champagne moment given comparable financial strength when the points were earned, which would explain why it will probably take much longer to attain the same points total

SlidingTackle wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:45 pm

So.… .

I have to ask.

Of these 49 is it possible for some whizz to generate a league table of number of seasons in the Premiership / Premier League (and, whilst they are at it, a league table of numbers of seasons in the old First Division / Premiership / Premier League)???

Here's the list of clubs who have played in the Premier League and the number of seasons they've been in there (up to and including this season).

Arsenal - 28
Chelsea - 28
Everton - 28
Liverpool - 28
Manchester United - 28
Tottenham - 28
Aston Villa - 25
Newcastle - 25
West Ham - 24
Manchester City - 23
Southampton - 21
Blackburn - 18
Sunderland - 16
Middlesbrough - 15
Fulham - 14
Leicester - 14
Bolton - 13
Leeds - 12
West Brom - 12
Crystal Palace - 11
Stoke - 10
Coventry - 9
Norwich - 9
Charlton - 8
Sheffield Wednesday - 8
Wigan - 8
Wimbledon - 8
Birmingham - 7
Derby - 7
Portsmouth - 7
QPR - 7
Swansea - 7
Watford - 7
Burnley - 6
Wolves - 6
Bournemouth - 5
Hull - 5
Ipswich - 5
Nottingham Forest - 5
Sheffield United - 4
Brighton - 3
Reading - 3
Bradford City - 2
Cardiff - 2
Huddersfield - 2
Oldham - 2
Barnsley - 1
Blackpool - 1
Swindon - 1

Swindon? Didn’t they never play? Weren’t they relegated 2 divisions before even kicking a ball due to Lou Macari’s betting?

Edit: googled it. They went back up a couple of seasons later. Completely forgotten that.

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