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Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:29 pm
by Rowls
There'll be some who went onto greater things after they left us (Phelan, Steven, Dixon, etc)
And there will be some who we had the tail end of their careers (Mitchell Thomas, Ian Wright, Paul Gascoigne)
But the ones who are really interesing are the ones we had who could have made it to the top with us if only they hadn't been playing with donkeys and journeymen.
I'll start us with an obvious one:
Andy Payton
Listen to the Glen Little podcast and you can still hear the disbelief in Glen's voice that Payts was playing at third tier level. It was crazy.
Here was a striker who had willingly left Celtic, had been scoring regularly at 2nd Division level and yet got shunted down rather than up.
Perhaps it's because he proved a bit more difficult to man-manage than the average player? Who knows? But there was nothing average about Andy Payton. It was a pleasure and a privilege to watch him play for Burnley.
Knowing he is a Burnley fan is the best explanation. Seeing that fight and passion on display from Payton every week was brilliant.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:32 pm
by Chester Perry
Trevor Stephen?
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:35 pm
by ClaretAL
Glen Little
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:35 pm
by CFS
Ben Gibson
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:12 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
CFS wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 7:35 pm
Ben Gibson
Glen Little for me
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:19 pm
by tim_noone
I'd have Give Tony Hancock Half hour....maybe.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:31 pm
by Chester Perry
CFS wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 7:35 pm
Ben Gibson
I understand anyone wanting to block that Boxing Day 1st half against Everton from the memory
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:31 pm
by Volvoclaret
David Eyres.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:38 pm
by Rileybobs
Could Paul Cook have made it or am i being a bit misty-eyed?
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:51 pm
by Volvoclaret
Not misty eyed RB, specsavers maybe

Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:55 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Van Der schaaf
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:56 pm
by bfcjg
Steve Davis.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:00 pm
by boatshed bill
Diego Penny. Wasn't he only one injury away?
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:01 pm
by Dazzler
I'll go for Trevor Steven
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:02 pm
by Dazzler
Charlie Austin
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:03 pm
by Rileybobs
Volvoclaret wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 8:51 pm
Not misty eyed RB, specsavers maybe
I was in my teens when he played for us so I should have had a decent understanding of the game but maybe not!!! He always seemed a very cultured player who had time on the ball, but obviously lacked an engine.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:06 pm
by conyoviejo
Derek Scott
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:09 pm
by Dazzler
Tommy Hutchison
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:15 pm
by ksrclaret
I know technically he played a few games, but I still think Chris McCann could have had a decent career in the PL if not for his injury.
Also, John McGreal wouldn't have looked out of place in a side at the top of the championship.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:27 pm
by Stockbrokerbelt
John Deary, better than Grealish & Fred put together

Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:44 pm
by Claret Toni
Mark Pugh?
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:57 pm
by Stevesball2
Steve Kindon
Gordon Harris
Ralph Coates
Steve Taylor

Leighton James.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:16 pm
by ClaretTony
Rileybobs wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 8:38 pm
Could Paul Cook have made it or am i being a bit misty-eyed?
Played in the Premier League so not misty eyed at all - outstanding player, just a shame we didn't get him at Burnley when he was younger.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:18 pm
by BurnleyFC
Payts and Super Glen are the two that immediately spring to mind, but Adie Randall was also a supremely talented footballer.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:18 pm
by Rileybobs
ClaretTony wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 10:16 pm
Played in the Premier League so not misty eyed at all - outstanding player, just a shame we didn't get him at Burnley when he was younger.
Just checked that, for Coventry? Wasnβt aware of that!
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by Dazzler
ClaretTony wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 10:16 pm
Played in the Premier League so not misty eyed at all - outstanding player, just a shame we didn't get him at Burnley when he was younger.
Would probably have needed 'Dynamico Deary' alongside him

Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:26 pm
by claretfern
Billy Hamilton.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:29 pm
by Rowls
Pre-injury Paul Smith. Looked to be a real prosepect.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:43 pm
by dsr
Phil Malley could have. Northern Premier!
(I've nothing against Malley. Made the absolute most of his limited talent, and when you have a side as poor as that was, a man who never gives up is essential.)
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:49 pm
by AndrewJB
I think Payton could have as well. Always found it disappointing that he didn't play much of a role in the '00/'01 season. I can remember us at Palace in that season, and when Payton came on the game changed. We robbed them. Same season we were behind in the League Cup, and he came on and scored two or three goals to win the game. I'm sure Ternent had his reasons, but it's a shame, as he was such a talent.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:27 pm
by tiger76
Alan Moore is one who springs to mind,bags of ability,but no application,and a constant sicknote,Glen Little definitely could have been a decent top level player for us,he featured in the PL for Bolton,Portsmouth(who he played in Europe with) i didn't know that,and finally Reading,i felt his injury record wasn't the best at Burnley,but 246 appearances suggest different.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:42 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Jack Wiltshire had our board had some Kahooners first time round
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:01 am
by Vintage Claret
David Johnson
Andy Gray
Tony Grant
Drissa Diallo
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:26 am
by claretblue
boatshed bill wrote: βThu Apr 09, 2020 9:00 pm
Diego Penny. Wasn't he only one injury away?
he played against Wigan in 2009
...Beast went off following a weak attempt at preventing a goal - appeared to feign injury!
Penny was sub many times!
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:31 am
by Damo
Jean Louis Valois
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:40 am
by Greenmile
Gary Cahill
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:54 am
by Claretmatt4
Gareth Taylor
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:09 am
by Vegas Claret
Marlon Beresford
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:18 am
by ashtonlongsider
The first name that came into my head was Steve Davis.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:05 am
by Burnley1989
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:19 am
by fzr162
Richard Chaplow
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:22 am
by Bin Ont Turf
Burnley1989 wrote: βFri Apr 10, 2020 8:05 am
Thereβs some awful shouts in here
Definitely some misty eyes about.

Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:24 am
by andyh
Already mentioned but Iβd have liked to see Randell with more time on the ball and more motivation. There was a great footballer in there somewhere.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:31 am
by jrgbfc
I'm not sure about Payton tbh. I don't think he was quite up to the top level. He didn't pull up any trees in the Championship for us.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:42 am
by boatshed bill
claretblue wrote: βFri Apr 10, 2020 12:26 am
he played against Wigan in 2009
...Beast went off following a weak attempt at preventing a goal - appeared to feign injury!
Penny was sub many times!
Forgot he actually got on.
He was terrible.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:34 am
by Claret Till I Die
Anyone from the 60s.....
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:02 am
by Claret Till I Die
jrgbfc wrote: βFri Apr 10, 2020 9:31 am
I'm not sure about Payton tbh. I don't think he was quite up to the top level. He didn't pull up any trees in the Championship for us.
I think that you're doing Andy Payton a disservice there. He was a goal scorer and would've scored goals in the Premier league given chance.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:11 am
by jrgbfc
Claret Till I Die wrote: βFri Apr 10, 2020 11:02 am
I think that you're doing Amdy Payton a disservice there. He was a goal scorer and would've scored goals in the Premier league given chance.
Maybe, would have been interesting to see him get the chance in his prime. Apart from Charlie Austin and Chris Wood i think he's rhe best natural goalscorer I've seen in my time supporting us.
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:17 am
by ceborame
Tony Morley
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:19 am
by Claret Till I Die
jrgbfc wrote: βFri Apr 10, 2020 11:11 am
Maybe, would have been interesting to see him get the chance in his prime. Apart from Charlie Austin and Chris Wood i think he's rhe best natural goalscorer I've seen in my time supporting us.
Again its opinions but to me he is far more of a natural goalscorer than Chris Wood. Granted Wood will score goals but there is a difference between someone who scores goals and a goalscorer.