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Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm
by Spijed
Won't really affect us with SD in charge, will it? ;)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52443195

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:32 pm
by tiger76
Will no doubt favour the big clubs with the deeper squads,i'm just thankful we've already got plenty of points on the board.

I do wonder if the precedent's set whether the big boys will attempt to make this change permanent.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:43 pm
by wilks_bfc
The five substitutions would be allowable within a maximum of three slots, as well as during half-time

This seems a little odd

I can see what they are wanting as the current maximum number of windows now is 3 but if a teams has to make 2 separate substitutions in the first half due to injury, then they only have one more “window”

If they needed to make a change early in the second half, then they’d either have to make a single or all remaining 3 changes

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:49 pm
by Tricky Trevor
This is to save injuries to players who won’t be match fit.
The three slots is interesting as 10 separate substitutions in a game would seriously disrupt the flow of the game. As I’ve long called for flying subs, to stop disruption, this is a plus.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:57 pm
by conyoviejo
Soft Bastards ..

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:32 pm
by Silkyskills1
Tinkering with rules again. Just leave it alone.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:58 pm
by JohnMac
Don't change the rules, if they are all knackered then slow the game down. Surely the telemetry they have will still be used during lockdown to see who is and who isn't putting in the effort.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:09 pm
by beddie
Unfair, its giving an advantage to the better well off teams. Totally wrong.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:43 pm
by dsr
It's a shame that FIFA haven't noticed the apparent impossibility of a player making a move to the touchline before the 4th official holds up the board. Five simultaneous substitutions take as long as five separate ones.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:03 pm
by Claretmatt4
Not thought this one through have they. Almost certainly gets voted in and kept as well.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:09 pm
by Rojales Claret
So what's he difference between restarting this season (if and when it happens) and the start of a normal season for the first few games till everyone gets up to speed?

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:24 pm
by timshorts
It doesn't help. The more subs that appear, the higher likelihood that someone on the pitch at some time is infected. 1 sub only with only 2 allowed on the bench to pick from would be safer and a lot more fun.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:31 pm
by dougcollins
The last thing you need now are new rules.

This lot are bonkers.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:14 pm
by tiger76
For those who think this is only a temporary measure,i note this: Dispensation will be given to all national team games until 31 December 2021.

So if things get up running in the next month or two,and the 20/21 season doesn't suffer huge delays,this rule change will almost certainly be in place for the whole of that campaign,and once it's here it's here to stay,of course the big clubs with large squads,or lots of academy prospects will love it,but it just makes competing that whole lot harder for the BFC'S of this world.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:55 pm
by dsr
I don't reckon having five subs will help the richer teams all that much.

Have you seen the way they micro-manage everything when they bring a sub on now? It takes five minutes talking to the sub and showing him pictures on the magic lantern before he can come on. They leave players out there with a hamstring injury getting worse just to make sure the sub can be given detailed instructions. They'll struggle to do that with three at once.

There's three reasons for tactical substitutions. One, to bring on fresh legs. This is usually used for forwards, because to do it for the players further back is likely to disrupt the team - especially as you aren't allowed to have five minutes with each defender to tell him to move five blades of grass to the right when their number 7 has the ball and there is a full moon. Two, to change the system. Also a problem because as above, footballers are no longer clever enough to change system without a five minute tutorial. Three, to replace someone who is playing badly.

This won't give anyone a tactical advantage over Burnley. One, all the players know the system inside out and back to front. Two, we never change it. And three, our players aren't allowed to have bad games. So it makes no difference to us!!! ;)

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:36 am
by thelaughingclaret
The 5 subs will be in place until the end of next season which makes no sense. Looks like it will become a permeant thing If it does happen, why else would they allow it to go on for another season if they didn’t want it to be permanent. As others have said anything that favours the big clubs will always happen.
It makes no sense to have big clubs, you can rotate the squad in between fixtures, they’re just using tiredness as an excuse to bring it in so the big clubs can play more big players. It’s a ridiculous idea but it will happen and there’s nothing anyone can do.
10 subs a game instead of 6 could mean up to 4 more stoppages, this could be good for TV companies because they could show adverts dying these times like they do in American sports. I’m surprised we don’t already have adverts during stoppages of play yet. Anything for money money.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:15 am
by groove
Just what we need, another 'window'.

Re: Fifa proposes use of five substitutions to help with fixture congestion

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:29 am
by Spijed
Wonder if rolling subs will ever be allowed such as in sports like hockey, where a substituted player can return later in the game?