BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:32 am
3rd player goes down with Covid. Is this deliberate? They certainly don’t want the season
re-starting.
re-starting.
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Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:35 am
I don't think it could possibly be deliberate but, to be honest, I'm getting sick to the back teeth of Paul Barber & Brighton.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:35 am
It shouldn't make any difference if they've been self isolating, as they should have done.huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 10:32 am3rd player goes down with Covid. Is this deliberate? They certainly don’t want the season
re-starting.
What would they do if a player had a sprained knee, or if a player was suspended. We have squads for a reason, and I would say unless the whole squad had come down with it. Tough.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:39 am
West Ham had a batch of players a few weeks ago with 'symptoms'.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 10:35 amI don't think it could possibly be deliberate but, to be honest, I'm getting sick to the back teeth of Paul Barber & Brighton.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 31331.html
Any coincidence that the clubs in favour of abandoning the league are those who seem to be getting new cases?
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:40 am
It was tongue in cheek but as Colburn writes in his reply it should be treated as an injury would. They are just an unavailable player.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 10:35 amI don't think it could possibly be deliberate but, to be honest, I'm getting sick to the back teeth of Paul Barber & Brighton.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:51 am
The need points docking for being big girls blouses
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:54 am
I used to like him as Denzil.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 10:35 amI don't think it could possibly be deliberate but, to be honest, I'm getting sick to the back teeth of Paul Barber & Brighton.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:02 am
How the bloody hell as a footballer got symptoms?
Gardens big enough to exercise in, enough money to buy all the food with a safe delivery service?
All the technology they need?
Their own club should fine them for stupidity.
Gardens big enough to exercise in, enough money to buy all the food with a safe delivery service?
All the technology they need?
Their own club should fine them for stupidity.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:04 am
Might have wanted a hug off their mummy...Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 11:02 amHow the bloody hell as a footballer got symptoms?
Gardens big enough to exercise in, enough money to buy all the food with a safe delivery service?
All the technology they need?
Their own club should fine them for stupidity.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:09 am
I dislike BHA with a passion you could only imagine. Don’t wish the virus on anyone obviously, but I’m not surprised it’s this club bleating.
I think I want Brighton down more than I want leeds to stay down...
I think I want Brighton down more than I want leeds to stay down...
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:10 am
Obviously they're not staying alert enough. Drop your guard for a second and the sneaky old covids will be on you in a flash, like Big Mick Keane at a corner.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 11:02 amHow the bloody hell as a footballer got symptoms?
Gardens big enough to exercise in, enough money to buy all the food with a safe delivery service?
All the technology they need?
Their own club should fine them for stupidity.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:32 am
I'll give you that macca, just!
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:39 am
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:47 am
Players like us can catch it a host of different ways.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 11:02 amHow the bloody hell as a footballer got symptoms?
Gardens big enough to exercise in, enough money to buy all the food with a safe delivery service?
All the technology they need?
Their own club should fine them for stupidity.
Not directed at you Quick but there are strange post on this thread to be honest. Weird how people have different opinions based on what colour t shirts footballers wear.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:01 pm
The fact that players are catching it anyway without training and matches should be an arguement for restarting. The players will arguably be safer if regularly tested and in a more tightly monitored/controlled environment.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:07 pm
And Germanys R rate has gone back above 1. - Tough times ahead.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:19 pm
Of course they can but they have no excuses for doing so.
They are still being paid their full wage.
They have all the facilities we could only dream of.
Ample bedrooms if they need to sleep alone from family.
All they have to do is stay away from people and be ready for when needed for their job.
Any player that has failed this should be fined (including Burnley players).
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:44 pm
What if the player’s wife works in an intensive care unit?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:19 pmOf course they can but they have no excuses for doing so.
They are still being paid their full wage.
They have all the facilities we could only dream of.
Ample bedrooms if they need to sleep alone from family.
All they have to do is stay away from people and be ready for when needed for their job.
Any player that has failed this should be fined (including Burnley players).
It’s ridiculous to suggest that footballers should be capable of totally avoiding the virus.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:45 pm
Seems incredibly convenient just as this hellhole of shiny plastic club are shrieking hysterically about how their fans would help them stay up .
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:46 pm
Not sure it’s convenient for a club’s squad to be weakened.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:45 pmSeems incredibly convenient just as this hellhole of shiny plastic club are shrieking hysterically about how their fans would help them stay up .
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:48 pm
Then she should be self isolating in a hotel room like Gary Nevilles. A motorhome like they have on site at Blackburn hospital or very least spare bedroom and keeping 2m away from everyone else.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:48 pm
Ahh right so footballers aren't allowed in supermarkets. Their also not allowed outside their garden for exercise either. Their not allowed out to walk their dogs. Their not allowed out to drop of food for their at risk family members. All because they have money?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:19 pmOf course they can but they have no excuses for doing so.
They are still being paid their full wage.
They have all the facilities we could only dream of.
Ample bedrooms if they need to sleep alone from family.
All they have to do is stay away from people and be ready for when needed for their job.
Any player that has failed this should be fined (including Burnley players).
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:48 pm
Crap club,Crap fans....end of
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:51 pm
Do all nurses self isolate? I wasn’t aware of that.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:48 pmThen she should be self isolating in a hotel room like Gary Nevilles. A motorhome like they have on site at Blackburn hospital or very least spare bedroom and keeping 2m away from everyone else.
How can you avoid all contact with other members of your household? You’re making an absolutely ridiculous suggestion.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:55 pm
Not if they're putting themselves at risk.Dyched wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:48 pmAhh right so footballers aren't allowed in supermarkets. Their also not allowed outside their garden for exercise either. Their not allowed out to walk their dogs. Their not allowed out to drop of food for their at risk family members. All because they have money?
They have allowed themselves to be tied to a very highly paid contract and become a valuable asset for their respective clubs.
If they said they didn't wish to be paid until they play again then that is a different matter.
These are people who are used to having heart monitors on, calories burnt recorded. All food prepared to eating plans etc..
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:57 pm
Players may not be from the first team squad , with all the academies etc they must have well over a hundred players.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:58 pm
Not that I'm aware of.
Ones who wish to protect their family will, if they are able to of course.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:58 pm
Do you just mean nurses who are symptomatic?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:48 pmThen she should be self isolating in a hotel room like Gary Nevilles. A motorhome like they have on site at Blackburn hospital or very least spare bedroom and keeping 2m away from everyone else.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:03 pm
Sorry, but you’re talking b0llocks.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:58 pmNot that I'm aware of.
Ones who wish to protect their family will, if they are able to of course.
How can you expect anybody to totally isolate themselves from the rest of their household? They can minimise contact, sanitise surfaces, wash hands regularly but none of these measures guarantee that the virus won’t spread.
Suggesting that footballers should be fined for contracting the virus is hilarious.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:09 pm
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:18 pm
My wife is an acute nurse treating Covid positive patients. We continue to live our home life as normal and aren't worried to the extent that we haven't even discussed it, although if she got symptoms we would make changes. Of course she might contract the virus but be asymptomatic so we wouldn't know. As things stand I have no intention of making alternative arrangements and certainly wouldn't ask her to live elsewhere for months. What you are saying is ridiculous.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:09 pmNurses who work on Covid wards and have either vunerable people at home or valuable.
Or the other household members could make alternative arrangements.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:19 pm
Sunday Times Sport:
What if a player tests positive?
Christian Purslow, the Aston Villa chief executive, said on Thursday that he would like to see a ‘Covid rule’ introduced, that would mean games are abandoned if a team’s best players were ruled out after testing positive.
The Premier League is expected to say that the measures they put in place will be strict enough and, as long as they are adhered to, that the virus should not spread throughout a squad. If one player tests positive, they will remain in self-isolation with their family for 14 days. Clubs may also be allowed to add to their 25-man squad to help cope with absences.
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This puts a new spin on drug testing. Teams that look like they are getting relegated will be testing frequently and aiming for a positive test. So, can we expect news of night clubs in Birmingham opening soon?
What if a player tests positive?
Christian Purslow, the Aston Villa chief executive, said on Thursday that he would like to see a ‘Covid rule’ introduced, that would mean games are abandoned if a team’s best players were ruled out after testing positive.
The Premier League is expected to say that the measures they put in place will be strict enough and, as long as they are adhered to, that the virus should not spread throughout a squad. If one player tests positive, they will remain in self-isolation with their family for 14 days. Clubs may also be allowed to add to their 25-man squad to help cope with absences.
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This puts a new spin on drug testing. Teams that look like they are getting relegated will be testing frequently and aiming for a positive test. So, can we expect news of night clubs in Birmingham opening soon?
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:21 pm
Also in S.Times sport: Karren Brady is saying the pitches will need to be disinfected before each game....
I guess we can expect one of Burnley's opponents complaining that the wrong type of disinfectant had been used.
I guess we can expect one of Burnley's opponents complaining that the wrong type of disinfectant had been used.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:21 pm
For info look at the guides for shielding, which I have had to adhere to since the middle of March. It has been difficult, but we have done the best we can. If we can do it, it’s only a lack of intelligence and application that can prevent others from also doing it.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:03 pmSorry, but you’re talking b0llocks.
How can you expect anybody to totally isolate themselves from the rest of their household? They can minimise contact, sanitise surfaces, wash hands regularly but none of these measures guarantee that the virus won’t spread.
Suggesting that footballers should be fined for contracting the virus is hilarious.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:23 pm
Why should footballers be shielding?Zlatan wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:21 pmFor info look at the guides for shielding, which I have had to adhere to since the middle of March. It has been difficult, but we have done the best we can. If we can do it, it’s only a lack of intelligence and application that can prevent others from also doing it.
In any case, you’re not guaranteeing that you won’t contract the virus, you’re just minimising the risk.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:27 pm
Ahhh the penny drops. Minimising the risk is exactly what we’ve been doing. I know nurses and other medical professionals who have effectively shielded to protect their families, and they have seen colleagues have family members suffer (and I know of one death) where they did not isolate themselves effectively.
Footballers don’t need to be shielding, but the guide for shielding is a really good place to start for mimimising the risk - if your high salary depended upon you following some rules for a relatively short space of time you’d do it wouldn’t you? I sure as hell know I would...
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:27 pm
The sooner the Premier League is rid of Karen Brady the better imo continually ridiculous stuff she comes out withPaul Waine wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:21 pmAlso in S.Times sport: Karren Brady is saying the pitches will need to be disinfected before each game....
I guess we can expect one of Burnley's opponents complaining that the wrong type of disinfectant had been used.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:34 pm
No need for the sarcasm.Zlatan wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:27 pmAhhh the penny drops. Minimising the risk is exactly what we’ve been doing. I know nurses and other medical professionals who have effectively shielded to protect their families, and they have seen colleagues have family members suffer (and I know of one death) where they did not isolate themselves effectively.
Footballers don’t need to be shielding, but the guide for shielding is a really good place to start for mimimising the risk - if your high salary depended upon you following some rules for a relatively short space of time you’d do it wouldn’t you? I sure as hell know I would...
A poster suggested that there is no excuse for a footballer to contract the virus and that they should be fined for doing so. I pointed out how ridiculous that was and gave reasons as to why.
You’ve gone off on a tangent about shielding, which of course would minimise the chance of a footballer contracting the virus but it wouldn’t eliminate the risk.
In any case, there is no reason why footballers, as a collective, should be shielding. Their salary is irrelevant.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:34 pm
A teams best players?Paul Waine wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:19 pmSunday Times Sport:
What if a player tests positive?
Christian Purslow, the Aston Villa chief executive, said on Thursday that he would like to see a ‘Covid rule’ introduced, that would mean games are abandoned if a team’s best players were ruled out after testing positive.
The Premier League is expected to say that the measures they put in place will be strict enough and, as long as they are adhered to, that the virus should not spread throughout a squad. If one player tests positive, they will remain in self-isolation with their family for 14 days. Clubs may also be allowed to add to their 25-man squad to help cope with absences.
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This puts a new spin on drug testing. Teams that look like they are getting relegated will be testing frequently and aiming for a positive test. So, can we expect news of night clubs in Birmingham opening soon?
What would Villa etc do during a normal season when they have injuries to a number of players?
I've never heard of a club trying to get a game abandoned due to a player being injured...
Are they going to present a list prior to any games stating who their best players are?
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:35 pm
They don't need to follow the shielding guidance - they just need to follow the social distancing guidance everyone is meant to be following. Why would medical professionals shield unless they meet the shielding criteria because they themselves are clinically vulnerable? Same applies to footballers and anyone else for that matter.Zlatan wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:27 pmAhhh the penny drops. Minimising the risk is exactly what we’ve been doing. I know nurses and other medical professionals who have effectively shielded to protect their families, and they have seen colleagues have family members suffer (and I know of one death) where they did not isolate themselves effectively.
Footballers don’t need to be shielding, but the guide for shielding is a really good place to start for mimimising the risk - if your high salary depended upon you following some rules for a relatively short space of time you’d do it wouldn’t you? I sure as hell know I would...
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:42 pm
Appears there are a few who have got confused been "shielding," "self-isolating" and "social distancing."taio wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:35 pmThey don't need to follow the shielding guidance - they just need to follow the social distancing guidance everyone is meant to be following. Why would medical professionals shield unless they meet the shielding criteria because they themselves are clinically vulnerable? Same applies to footballers and anyone else for that matter.
I can imagine a health care worker choosing to live apart from their family if they are working on the covid ward. This may be what the hotels opened up to NHS staff were offering.
But, if any health care worker was in the "shielding" group then they wouldn't be going to work.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:43 pm
I think I’ll stay off the forum again for a while, all far too tetchy at the moment
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:46 pm
The PL just need to work up a proposal or two and vote on them. Apparently the vote carries if 14 vote in favour. Once they’ve decided how to end it, they need to wait for the green light from the Govt, just as the Bundesliga did.
The endless speculation and the disingenuous interviews by the relegation-threatened clubs is wearisome.
The endless speculation and the disingenuous interviews by the relegation-threatened clubs is wearisome.
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:46 pm
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:54 pm
so all the bottom 6 want take relegation off the table. I'd relegate the lot of them
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:59 pm
You mean like Dwight who moved back to his parents house for lockdown, with the club's support, and now has to share a bedroom with his younger brotherQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:19 pmOf course they can but they have no excuses for doing so.
They are still being paid their full wage.
They have all the facilities we could only dream of.
Ample bedrooms if they need to sleep alone from family.
All they have to do is stay away from people and be ready for when needed for their job.
Any player that has failed this should be fined (including Burnley players).
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:00 pm
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:15 pm
I second that motion,easy to implement too,6 down = top 6 in the Champ up.This might well lead to a rapid change in tune from the bleating bottom 6,like many others i'm growing tired of their constant excuses to not restart the season.And effectively attempting to hold the remaining 14 clubs to ransom,i see the vote that was due to happen tomorrow,has once again been delayed,this constant stalling is becoming tiresome.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:54 pmso all the bottom 6 want take relegation off the table. I'd relegate the lot of them
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:25 pm
Surely people like Paul Barber would never lie about players testing positive so they try and avoid relegation?
They wouldn't, would they?
They wouldn't, would they?
Re: BHA
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:40 pm
So what if 1 player has symptoms? The chances of them being in the less than 1% that will die from this are very very slim. They are far more likely to die in a car crash. Get games restarted behind closed doors.