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Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:45 am
by wembley94
You would need a crystal ball to predict when things will be truly safe.so come the start of next season if the govermment. said you can attend football matches at your own risk'.would you attend ?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:46 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Yes

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:47 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
No not until there is some actual factual scientific evidence that it is safe to do so.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:48 am
by FactualFrank
wembley94 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 11:45 am
You would need a crystal ball to predict when things will be truly safe.
A few on here have one of those, so will be keen to get their foresight so I can plan ahead.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:56 am
by summitclaret
No. Not until I can get a vaccine. The bogs in the JHU will be lethal.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:58 am
by summitclaret
Or bene and hot is proved to kill covid 19.

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:02 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Its boring enough anyhow going on the Turf for most games so why anyone would want to risk their own health is a mystery

Should play the whole of next season behind close doors - football on TV is the future!!

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:06 pm
by Chester Perry
stopped 15 years ago - unlikely to do it again

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:53 pm
by ClaretTony
Yesterday they suggested that 26% of those who have died in the UK from COVID-19 had diabetes as an underlying condition. That's exactly why I'm sat at home, only going out for walks, and have been since a week before lockdown.

I've done this to avoid risk as much as possible, I wouldn't start gambling now. It will all depend on what the situation is at the time but I would have to believe it safe.

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:05 pm
by lakedistrictclaret
Probably not.

I don' t have any underlying conditions, but I still think we need to be cautious for a little while longer yet.

If we can get the R rate down further, the virus will start to disappear, and I'm optimistic enough to hope that we'll be back at Turf Moor before the end of the year.

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:13 pm
by ksrclaret
I probably would. I’m classed as young and healthy and I’m missing the Turf like mad.

Can’t see it happening for a while yet though.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:17 pm
by tarkys_ears
Given the fact this will be the new norm for years to come, what else are you gonna do? Sit in your houses for the rest of your lives?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:17 pm
by Swizzlestick
Good one, mate.

A good edit.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:20 pm
by jrgbfc
If they opened the pubs tomorrow I'd definetely go for a pint. But I'd class myself as relatively young and healthy, I appreciate not everyone is in the same boat.

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:21 pm
by NottsClaret
I'd go on. Probably hold my breath getting through the concourse but once you're sat outside in the open air again I reckon you'll be right.

Not going to get the option until those Oxford boffins get their vaccine out anyway.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:21 pm
by Rowls
Yes

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:22 pm
by ClaretTony
jrgbfc wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 2:20 pm
If they opened the pubs tomorrow I'd definetely go for a pint. But I'd class myself as relatively young and healthy, I appreciate not everyone is in the same boat.
And potentially passing it on to those who are less healthy

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:22 pm
by Pimlico_Claret
Considering how a substantial amount of people on here react to a poor performance, or defeat etc, I'm surprised it's not a huge relief to not have to suffer for a while.

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:27 pm
by IanMcL
lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 2:05 pm
Probably not.

I don' t have any underlying conditions, but I still think we need to be cautious for a little while longer yet.

If we can get the R rate down further, the virus will start to disappear, and I'm optimistic enough to hope that we'll be back at Turf Moor before the end of the year.
My answer to the question is YES. Can't wait.

The solution for Lakedistrict in reducing the r factor, is below. See you there Lakedistrict!

BUrNLEY
MIGHTY CLArETS

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:28 pm
by Croydon Claret
No but only because I have type 1 diabetes and as Tony has said it seems to be a major underlying complication factor.

In my experience of both myself and a fellow type 1, if you get admitted to hospital then they do not know how to manage it properly and expect you to just park it at the door until you get discharged. I wouldn't fancy my chances of somebody managing my diabetes whilst I'm flat out cold, and would most likely die of high blood sugar before the virus killed me off. Makes you wonder if that's a contributory factor to all the diabetics who have died

The prospect of this scares me to death, moreso than the actual virus

My friend was in hospital for 4 days and didn't get a single insulin shot in that time!

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:30 pm
by KateR
No
and while not young I am healthy

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:33 pm
by Dyched
No. This virus isn’t just about me. I’m (should) be okay with it. Others not so. Why the hell would anybody want to risk the lives of others over a game of football?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:35 pm
by FactualFrank
Dyched wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 2:33 pm
No. This virus isn’t just about me. I’m (should) be okay with it. Others not so. Why the hell would anybody want to risk the lives of others over a game of football?
Because it's very much a case of "I'm alright, Jack" with some.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:41 pm
by mealdeal
Theres a risk to everything in life, I don't do a lot of activities that I deem too risky but going to a game of football would be within my personal level of acceptable risk.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:52 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Despite healthy conditions I would go.

A few reasons why.

O.27% of our population had it at any one time during the peak. (You might argue more but they didn'thave it bad enough to seek medical attention.)

Spain have found 15 different strains of the Virus while testing, which indicates it can weaken while travelling.

I think most people must have been exposed to a little bit of it now.

Lots of football games were attended while it was amongst us and I haven't heard anyone say they got it while at a match

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:54 pm
by Inchy
No, for the same reason I haven’t seen my dad or in-laws for 8 weeks.

I’m youngish, fit and healthy. But I could easily be an asymptomatic carrier. I could have the virus at some point and not even know. I wouldn’t want to risk passing it to other people who wouldn’t do well with the disease

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:59 pm
by ClaretAndJew
How come people still aren't grasping the concept of transmitting it to more vulnerable people?

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:02 pm
by Pimlico_Claret
ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 2:59 pm
How come people still aren't grasping the concept of transmitting it to more vulnerable people?
Selfishness?

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:04 pm
by Terrier
Just had an e-mail to inform me the Diana Ross concert we were going to in july has been cancelled, considering her age i doubt we will ever see her now but given the chance i would be 1st in the queue corvid or no corvid!

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:12 pm
by tybfc
No.

I have an underlying health condition that a report commissioned this week to say that around 50% of people with it who catch covid-19 will die within days. Take my gender and age into consideration and the odds worsen.

My consultant, bless her, told me that if I catch it to go straight to Accrington cemetery and cut out the hospital ! She was not being totally serious but I got the point.

So leaving the house petrifies me until the country is clear of it but Turf Moor will be the last place I will be whilst there is any chance of catching it.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:15 pm
by FactualFrank
tybfc wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:12 pm
No.

I have an underlying health condition that a report commissioned this week to say that around 50% of people with it who catch covid-19 will die within days. Take my gender and age into consideration and the odds worsen.

My consultant, bless her, told me that if I catch it to go straight to Accrington cemetery and cut out the hospital ! She was not being totally serious but I got the point.

So leaving the house petrifies me until the country is clear of it but Turf Moor will be the last place I will be whilst there is any chance of catching it.
Ouch, sorry to hear/read. So it might be another 12+ months inside until they get a vaccine?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:16 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Terrier wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:04 pm
Just had an e-mail to inform me the Diana Ross concert we were going to in july has been cancelled, considering her age i doubt we will ever see her now but given the chance i would be 1st in the queue corvid or no corvid!
You could have put this on the positive Corona Virus news thread if it was still going

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:17 pm
by FactualFrank
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:16 pm
You could have put this on the positive Corona Virus news thread if it was still going
Or even the coronavirus one!

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:19 pm
by Devils_Advocate
FactualFrank wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:17 pm
Or even the Coronavirus one!
Nope that wouldnt have been appropriate, this virus isn't a laughing matter

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:20 pm
by jrgbfc
What if it takes years to get a vaccine? There has to be a balance between protecting those who need it and allowing people to get on with their lives.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:25 pm
by Quickenthetempo
ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 2:59 pm
How come people still aren't grasping the concept of transmitting it to more vulnerable people?
Presuming the more vulnerable stay at home, how will people pass it on to them?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:27 pm
by JohnMac
As much as I would love to go on I think until we actually understand more about the Virus and have minimal risk options available it's a NO from me.

Edit
Next season was to be my debut as an over 65 concession :cry:

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:35 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
When it's safe for me to see my mum and one of my mates then I'll consider it safe enough to go to a live event.

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:36 pm
by Grumps
I think if the government were saying it was safe to go, then the number of new infections would be lower than today
Bearing in mind at any one point over 99% the population DON'T have the virus today, then if it's better figures than that then yes I would go.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:39 pm
by Burnley Ace
20,000 people went to the Spurs game on the 7th March. Whilst I doubt there has been any research, anecdotally is anyone aware of any attendee subsequently getting Covid or someone in their household.

Before the usual suspects get all antsy and blame the government for not testing everyone, it’s not a challenge it’s just a question

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:42 pm
by Tribesmen
Yep simple as that .

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:43 pm
by Burnley Ace
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:25 pm
Presuming the more vulnerable stay at home, how will people pass it on to them?
Perhaps someone attending may pass it on to someone else who lives with a vulnerable person?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:43 pm
by Grumps
Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:39 pm
20,000 people went to the Spurs game on the 7th March. Whilst I doubt there has been any research, anecdotally is anyone aware of any attendee subsequently getting Covid or someone in their household.

Before the usual suspects get all antsy and blame the government for not testing everyone, it’s not a challenge it’s just a question
Iam not aware of any, nor iam I aware of anyone claiming somebody might have caught it there.

I don't read all the articles, but I know a big fuss was made about Liverpool playing a champions league game the following week, and that could have caused an outbreak
Has anyone who has sadly died been shown to have attended the game?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:47 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:39 pm
20,000 people went to the Spurs game on the 7th March. Whilst I doubt there has been any research, anecdotally is anyone aware of any attendee subsequently getting Covid or someone in their household.

Before the usual suspects get all antsy and blame the government for not testing everyone, it’s not a challenge it’s just a question
I know a dozen people who attended Cheltenham festival and not a single one has been ill, nor anyone they know.

I'm not saying they haven't passed it on to strangers but I'd expect at least one of them to have been ill with this Covid.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:21 pm
by mealdeal

So leaving the house petrifies me until the country is clear of it but Turf Moor will be the last place I will be whilst there is any chance of catching it.
Hats off to you, but given your strict requirements for attendance, I’d say you’ve already seen your last game of football at Turf Moor.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:53 pm
by BleedingClaret
If they said the season was starting again tomorrow and Burnley were at home
Then I’d be at Turf Moor tomorrow

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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:55 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:39 pm
20,000 people went to the Spurs game on the 7th March. Whilst I doubt there has been any research, anecdotally is anyone aware of any attendee subsequently getting Covid or someone in their household.

Before the usual suspects get all antsy and blame the government for not testing everyone, it’s not a challenge it’s just a question
I’m aware of two people who were at the Spurs game who have since been tested positive for. COVID-19. I’m not suggesting for one minute they got it at that game. More likely they already had it which means they could have passed it on.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 pm
by boatshed bill
Certainly not. It's not just me, it's the other people I would be putting at risk.
TBH, I'm not changing from my earlier lockdown activities, I'm avoiding contact with other people unless absolutely necessary.

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:28 pm
by Grumps
boatshed bill wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 pm
Certainly not. It's not just me, it's the other people I would be putting at risk.
TBH, I'm not changing from my earlier lockdown activities, I'm avoiding contact with other people unless absolutely necessary.
Out of interest, what would the situation have to be, for you to attend a game?

Re: Given the choice would you attend live events at your own risk

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:34 pm
by boatshed bill
Grumps wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:28 pm
Out of interest, what would the situation have to be, for you to attend a game?
It's not just a game (a Burnley FC game or any other) I intend to avoid contact with people as much as possible until the pandemic is over.