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Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:16 pm
by ClaretTony
Despite the League Two clubs unanimously voting for no relegation, it has been rejected by the league so Stevenage will be relegated to the National League.

Also decided to end League One with an unweighted points per game which will see, I think, Coventry & Rotherham go up, Oxford, Portsmouth, Fleetwood and Wycombe in the play offs with Tranmere, Southend and Bolton relegated.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:19 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Stevenage were always going down once they sacked the medal winner, he would have saved them ..... he will be saying

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:24 pm
by tiger76
What about Bury's replacement?or are 4 teams being promoted from League 2 to make up the shortage.

Just read the Beeb article and apparently not,so League 1 will still be a 23 team league next season.

So if Stevenage go down Barrow take their place,or is it not quite that simple.

This is getting very messy.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:25 pm
by Sausage
Wouldn't be surprised if the start of the 2020/21 season is delayed, not because of Covid-19 but because of pending legal cases involving promotion and relegation.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:28 pm
by tiger76
Sausage wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:25 pm
Wouldn't be surprised if the start of the 2020/21 season is delayed, not because of Covid-19 but because of pending legal cases involving promotion and relegation.
Can clubs at those levels afford costly legal cases?i'd wouldn't have thought so given many are living hand to mouth,but it's a potential problem that's for sure.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:29 pm
by ClaretTony
tiger76 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:24 pm
What about Bury's replacement?or are 4 teams being promoted from League 2 to make up the shortage.

Just read the Beeb article and apparently not,so League 1 will still be a 23 team league next season.

So if Stevenage go down Barrow take their place,or is it not quite that simple.

This is getting very messy.
The plan, prior to this suspension was three down and four up between Leagues One and Two.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:37 pm
by tiger76
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:29 pm
The plan, prior to this suspension was three down and four up between Leagues One and Two.
Easy solution would be to just promote the top 4 in League 2,however a quick glance at the current standings shows how complicated that could prove to be in practice.

1Crewe Alexandra 37 20 9 8 24 69
2Swindon Town 36 21 6 9 23 69
3Plymouth Argyle 37 20 8 9 22 68
4Exeter City 37 18 11 8 10 65
5Cheltenham Town 36 17 13 6 25 64

The rest are a fair number of points off the top 4,but Cheltenham would kick up merry hell given they'd only need to draw their game in hand to climb above Exeter,and that's just one example.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:41 pm
by ClaretTony
tiger76 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:37 pm
Easy solution would be to just promote the top 4 in League 2,however a quick glance at the current standings shows how complicated that could prove to be in practice.

1Crewe Alexandra 37 20 9 8 24 69
2Swindon Town 36 21 6 9 23 69
3Plymouth Argyle 37 20 8 9 22 68
4Exeter City 37 18 11 8 10 65
5Cheltenham Town 36 17 13 6 25 64

The rest are a fair number of points off the top 4,but Cheltenham would kick up merry hell given they'd only need to draw their game in hand to climb above Exeter,and that's just one example.
They intend staging the play offs

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm
by tiger76
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:41 pm
They intend staging the play offs
So top 3 up auto,and the rest battle it out in the PO lottery,right got you now,i still think they'll be plenty of bumps in the road,before we get that far.

It only takes one club to launch a successful legal case and the whole league's thrown into turmoil.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:05 pm
by Spijed
tiger76 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm
So top 3 up auto,and the rest battle it out in the PO lottery,right got you now,i still think they'll be plenty of bumps in the road,before we get that far.

It only takes one club to launch a successful legal case and the whole league's thrown into turmoil.
Does seem odd that teams are allowed to fight for promotion yet if you'd dropped into the relegation places for the first time the weekend before the suspension you've now no way of getting out of it.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:19 pm
by Herts Clarets
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:19 pm
Stevenage were always going down once they sacked the medal winner, he would have saved them ..... he will be saying
Jon Parkin on Twitter suggested that the medal winner would be claiming he saved them from relegation....

Looks like that one has gone out of the window now then.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:39 pm
by ElectroClaret
tiger76 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:28 pm
Can clubs at those levels afford costly legal cases?i'd wouldn't have thought so given many are living hand to mouth,but it's a potential problem that's for sure.
Its a good point. There'll probably be a lot of sabre-rattling and threats, but its likely they'll fall into line because of the cost of prolonged litigation.
And they might not even win.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:53 pm
by Enty1974
When will playoffs be played and where

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:56 pm
by ClaretTony
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:19 pm
Stevenage were always going down once they sacked the medal winner, he would have saved them ..... he will be saying
Any club who employs him as many times as they have deserve to go down.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:58 pm
by Hendrickxz
There won't be many tears shed around Accrington when Stevenage go down. There's "history" between them from the play-offs some years ago. Bit like us and Stockport County (remember them?) :)

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 4:17 pm
by Vegas Claret
so it's not safe for everyone to play unless you are in the play-off places, ok

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 4:29 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
I can't wait for next seasons Sunderland Til I Die. They've taken 2 points from their last 4 games whilst P'boro have taken 7 and edged them out.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 8:20 pm
by aclaretinstevenage
I don't see the Chairman taking this as read without a legal challenge. Boro have certainly been the poorest side in the league by a distance in part due to the Chairman's continual changing of manager including Westley again, but with the National League not finishing their season it leaves him an angle and he will certainly take that as far as he can.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 8:50 pm
by tiger76
Hendrickxz wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 3:58 pm
There won't be many tears shed around Accrington when Stevenage go down. There's "history" between them from the play-offs some years ago. Bit like us and Stockport County (remember them?) :)
Stockport County who are they?

Exactly!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:35 pm
by warksclaret
Don't know if claret fans learned today. Coventry City are automatically promoted to the Championship-this after their promotion 12 months ago from the second division. Coventry were on their knees-lost their ground and pride but under Mark Robins have been outstanding without the benefit of a transfer budget. I hope Robins does not move on as a result of this achievement (so many who have moved to better positions have failed miserably)

Coventry are one of my local clubs and I have seen many games v the Sky Blues. A few to forget, like when Bobby Gould scored a hat-trick and they trounced us, or the game after Stan have taken our team abroad for "some sun". But I recall some great ones -like a mid week League Cup game with Leighton James making one of his first appearances and taking them apart, or the year we were promoted and Blake & Eagles came on to turn a losing position to a 2-1 win

Its good to see them in the Second tier, and hopeful;ly on behalf of their fans I hope they can claim their own home playing venue soon

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:12 pm
by Longsider
That Goal by Eagles was a belter.

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:15 pm
by Longsidelenny1882
Coventry the first club to get promoted never to play a home game utc

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:16 pm
by Burnley1989
Really like Coventry as a club, feel for their fans as well

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:20 pm
by warksclaret
Coventry were a club that Robbie Blake always did well and scored against. When he and Eagles came on for that 2-1 win, a Coventry fan behind me said , as Robbie came on "I hate that Robbie Blake-he always scores against us" and sure enough he scored a poachers goal in no time.And yes that Eagles goal was class

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:20 pm
by ksrclaret
I've always quite liked Coventry. Not really sure why.

They've had a shocking time of it over the last decade, and I'm delighted they're back in the Championship. Robins is a good fit there. Hope they sort a ground out properly.

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:23 pm
by tim_noone
Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:16 pm
Really like Coventry as a club, feel for their fans as well
Watched Coventry get Promoted at Ewood 67/ 68 glad they're on the way Back. Dont know the ins and outs but they appear to have been treated shocking....by their own council?

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:20 am
by ElectroClaret
Is the current plan still to play home games at St. Andrews next season?

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:18 am
by Woodleyclaret
A great goal from Chris Eagles
A salutory tale when dodgy owners and directors can run a once decent club into the ground
Moving from Highfield Road was the start of their problems
Then a series of mismanaged takeovers and Coventry FC never actually owning their ground ,led to the present fiasco when rugby club owners have actually refused to let them rent the ground they once shared
Ground sharing with a rugby team never ends well
My local team Reading, have wrecked their playing surface by allowing London Irish to play at the MadStad

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:19 am
by jrgbfc
Of all the new grounds the Ricoh has to be the worst one I've visited. Probably because it's always been half empty, it just seems so cavernous and soulless. I'd hate it if we ever moved somewhere like that.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:23 am
by Funkydrummer
I hadn't appreciated that Westley has had 4 stints as manager there, and done the square root of
of feck all, as far as I can see.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:27 am
by timshorts
jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:19 am
Of all the new grounds the Ricoh has to be the worst one I've visited. Probably because it's always been half empty, it just seems so cavernous and soulless. I'd hate it if we ever moved somewhere like that.
I prefer it to the madjesci. It may just be that I associate it with the Chris eagles goal, of course. Like I associate Southampton with the game when we relegated them to div. 3, but then very unexpectedly got into the play offs a game later and then went up, and I associate Bournemouth with 3 away points as that's happened every time I've been there even when we were dog poo.

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:40 am
by mdd2
tim_noone wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:23 pm
Watched Coventry get Promoted at Ewood 67/ 68 glad they're on the way Back. Dont know the ins and outs but they appear to have been treated shocking....by their own council?
I saw them play Newcastle in 1967 after their promotion to the top tier, so I guess your game Tim was the 66/67 season?

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:09 am
by ElectroClaret
Stevenage and Macclesfield still waiting for a date when their fates will be decided.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:31 am
by Billy Balfour
The bookies have scrubbed my season acca bet. I had Liverpool, West Brom, Sunderland and Plymouth. Second season on the trot that Sunderland have screwed up my bet.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:40 pm
by bfcmik
The Ricoh had a great atmosphere when I went to see the Rolling Stones there a couple of years ago.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:49 pm
by EarbyClaret
I always liked Highfield Road - remember us going there in the Cup in the promotion season to the Championship. At the time they were PL top 6 under Strachan and in the two previous home games they'd beaten Arsenal and Chelsea (I think?) - good to see them back, hope they find a new home in Coventry

Re: COVENTRY & MARK ROBINS PROMOTED

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:07 pm
by tim_noone
mdd2 wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:40 am
I saw them play Newcastle in 1967 after their promotion to the top tier, so I guess your game Tim was the 66/67 season?
FFs.....I'm older than I thought! :shock:

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:09 pm
by tim_noone
bfcmik wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:40 pm
The Ricoh had a great atmosphere when I went to see the Rolling Stones there a couple of years ago.
So did Old Trafford and..... again in January :D

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:41 am
by Ptangyangkipperbang
Billy Balfour wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:31 am
The bookies have scrubbed my season acca bet. I had Liverpool, West Brom, Sunderland and Plymouth. Second season on the trot that Sunderland have screwed up my bet.
Which bookmaking firm have cancelled the bet and what's the reason why?

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:51 am
by Quickenthetempo
Ptangyangkipperbang wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:41 am
Which bookmaking firm have cancelled the bet and what's the reason why?
Sunderland have missed out on the play offs so he has lost.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:04 am
by wilks_bfc
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:51 am
Sunderland have missed out on the play offs so he has lost.
So it’s not the bookies that have scrubbed it then

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:09 am
by ralphc
Just reminded me to check a bet i had - Peterborough and Harrogate to win their respective leagues. BetVictor have taken my money as a lost bet which I personally think is rather unfair.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:02 am
by AlargeClaret
Anyone know what’s happening with conference promotion? Presuming Barrow are ok but who makes the play offs ?

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:18 am
by Quickenthetempo
wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:04 am
So it’s not the bookies that have scrubbed it then
I presume by scrubbed, he means confirmed it's a losing bet and took away from his live bets.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:27 am
by Erasmus
I seem to recall seeing Burnley winning 1-0 at Highfield Road sometime in 1971 or 1972. Not many other Burnley supporters there that day.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:35 am
by tiger76
AlargeClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:02 am
Anyone know what’s happening with conference promotion? Presuming Barrow are ok but who makes the play offs ?
Barrow promoted auto, i don't think a decision's been made on the play-off's yet.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:35 pm
by Quicknick
I'm glad Stevenage are down, and not because I used to live there.

Re: Stevenage out of league

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:40 pm
by tiger76
Quicknick wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I'm glad Stevenage are down, and not because I used to live there.
They might yet be reprieved if Macclesfield incur further points deductions. So don't count them as down and out just yet.