How many on here are of the opinion that farmers fields are open to the public to picnic/spend half a day sunbathing etc.. if they have a public footpath running through them?

Big crowds have been gathering down Grove lane Padiham/Ightenhill area of the river Calder. Leaving a mess etc..

Well last night the farmer got a little angry when repeated pleas for people to leave his land were greeted with abuse back

Out came the muck spreader and people got covered in it.

Probably best to use the paths to walk through but stay away from the bbq.

What amazes me is why people insist on littering these areas when they visit, is it really that hard to tidy up after yourself.

Good on the farmer i say.

Geroff my land!

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 11:28 am

What amazes me is why people insist on littering these areas when they visit, is it really that hard to tidy up after yourself.

Good on the farmer i say.

For some it's very difficult to take their litter home tiger76.
Walked through the local park early this morning with the dog, litter everywhere, yards away from litter bins. Some just don't give a s**t.

Aclaret wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 11:37 am

For some it's very difficult to take their litter home tiger76.
Walked through the local park early this morning with the dog, litter everywhere, yards away from litter bins. Some just don't give a s**t.

No sadly your correct we don't have any pride in keeping our country tidy alas.

Well done that man.

Brilliant job by the Farmer.... Cover the offensive buggers with Cow Poo well done

Yeah, let's go out to the lovely countryside and leave it full of crap. Also, let's set it on fire with our disposable barbeques.

To be serious, some people aren't fit to leave home and it's not just chavs. This 'don't give a toss' attitude runs right through our society.

We need very heavy fines for littering and jail time for flytipping!

I think when Boris was asking for members of the public to visit farmer's fields it was to assist in bringing in the crop of asparagus not to have a picnic.


"Farm to Fork" being one of his many mantras.

You're right Billy, the selfish me me me attitude has been endemic in this country for around 40 years now and we compare really badly to the majority of civilised nations in this respect, the reasons why would fill an adeola friday style thread but as a society we've got to look at how there are really poor behavioural standards and lack of respect for others.

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:26 pm

Yeah, let's go out to the lovely countryside and leave it full of crap. Also, let's set it on fire with our disposable barbeques.

To be serious, some people aren't fit to leave home and it's not just chavs. This 'don't give a toss' attitude runs right through our society.

We need very heavy fines for littering and jail time for flytipping!

Spot on. I often say a lot of people might as well walk around giving the middle finger to everyone else. That is the attitude. Certainly a lot more me me me about people these days and a "what you going to do about it?" too. I attribute a lot of problems with lockdown with this attitude. Many people just don't like doing as they are told it seems.

You are perfectly entitled to have a picnic on a public footpath. Therefore it seems that the farmer is in the wrong. And he’s definitely in the wrong for muckspreading them, if that’s what he did. If someone did that to me I’d be pressing charges.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:40 pm

You are perfectly entitled to have a picnic on a public footpath. Therefore it seems that the farmer is in the wrong. And he’s definitely in the wrong for muckspreading them, if that’s what he did. If someone did that to me I’d be pressing charges.

I don't think they were on the footpath though. They were in the field where the footpath runs through. I might be wrong but just because the footpath runs through a field that it makes the entire field accessible.

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:42 pm

I don't think they were on the footpath though. They were in the field where the footpath runs through. I might be wrong but just because the footpath runs through a field that it makes the entire field accessible.

If they weren’t on the path then I suppose they’d be trespassing. Still an unacceptable response from the farmer.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:44 pm

If they weren’t on the path then I suppose they’d be trespassing. Still an unacceptable response from the farmer.

Depends i suppose on how many times he asked them and on their response. A group of youths tanked up on alcohol..i think we can guess the response...although it is just a guess. The first sensible response is to tell the police. He may have been at his wits end to do this. There are also reports the same group were chasing and bothering the sheep and lambs. They want to behave like they are in the jungle..the laws of the jungle apply.

Hardly an unacceptable response.

I have been rightly reprimanded by a farmer for straying off the path to look at something more closely. Apologies extended, accepted and matter closed.

Public rights of way extend to the area marked on OS maps only, or round the edge of fields if fresh crops are planted and you wish to display common sense.

If indeed these people are all over the farmers land without express permission, were asked to move on politely (or not even) and refused with hostility...then I say good on him for using the sh*t spreader.

It’s not illegal to spread much on fields, yet trespassing is an offence.

People who have no respect for anything but themselves deserve all they get.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:40 pm

You are perfectly entitled to have a picnic on a public footpath. Therefore it seems that the farmer is in the wrong. And he’s definitely in the wrong for muckspreading them, if that’s what he did. If someone did that to me I’d be pressing charges.

A footpath through a field is usually around 2 foot wide.

Groups might struggle to fit on it

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:40 pm

You are perfectly entitled to have a picnic on a public footpath. Therefore it seems that the farmer is in the wrong. And he’s definitely in the wrong for muckspreading them, if that’s what he did. If someone did that to me I’d be pressing charges.

I've seen the video, they were nowhere near the footpath.

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ClaretEngineer wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:52 pm

Hardly an unacceptable response.

I have been rightly reprimanded by a farmer for straying off the path to look at something more closely. Apologies extended, accepted and matter closed.

Public rights of way extend to the area marked on OS maps only, or round the edge of fields if fresh crops are planted and you wish to display common sense.

If indeed these people are all over the farmers land without express permission, were asked to move on politely (or not even) and refused with hostility...then I say good on him for using the sh*t spreader.

It’s not illegal to spread much on fields, yet trespassing is an offence.

People who have no respect for anything but themselves deserve all they get.

Of course it’s an unacceptable response to throw sh!t at people. I suspect it would be classed as assault. If people are trespassing on your land then the acceptable response is to contact the police.

claretandy wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:56 pm

I've seen the video, they were nowhere near the footpath.

Fair enough, seems they were trespassing. In which case see my post above.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 11:22 am

Out came the muck spreader and people got covered in it.

Please, please let there be video of this!

Cow sh1t prevents Corona virus FACT cows don't have it FACT he was doing them and the NHS a favour.
Give that man a medal.
Source.... Donald Trump school of medicine.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 1:26 pm

Cow sh1t prevents Corona virus FACT cows don't have it FACT he was doing them and the NHS a favour.
Give that man a medal.
Source.... Donald Trump school of medicine.

I walked through grove lane and up Ighten Hill on friday afternoon (1pmish). Near the bridge there were a few groups (families, kids, groups of 2) enjoying the river and quite pleasant surroundings. There were also 2/3 groups of 4 or 5 who were making there way through several boxes of beer. You could tell it’d kick off at some point.

I’ve just seen photos posted in Ightenhill FB page. There’s a load of litter scattered all over the place. I’d love to have watched the farmer spraying cow excrement On the ones that left it. Good on him.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:40 pm

You are perfectly entitled to have a picnic on a public footpath. Therefore it seems that the farmer is in the wrong. And he’s definitely in the wrong for muckspreading them, if that’s what he did. If someone did that to me I’d be pressing charges.

It's called "taking the ****"

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 1:50 pm

I walked through grove lane and up Ighten Hill on friday afternoon (1pmish). Near the bridge there were a few groups (families, kids, groups of 2) enjoying the river and quite pleasant surroundings. There were also 2/3 groups of 4 or 5 who were making there way through several boxes of beer. You could tell it’d kick off at some point.

Same, great walk and scenery, even saw and heard the players training.

No excuse for littering or leaving your litter behind when you leave.

If they took it all home and respected the land, I'm sure the farmer wouldn't bat an eye.

Not much good it's done though, there's plenty at it now down there as we speak.

Just to add, the people ( some simply sitting in the sun enjoying the scenery ) said there was no warning or polite request to leave.
Who knows.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:44 pm

If they weren’t on the path then I suppose they’d be trespassing. Still an unacceptable response from the farmer.

Yes unacceptable, he should have covered them in muck first THEN got his 12 bore out.

Whilst part of me thinks it's serves these selfish idiots right.
I spare a thought for their children/toddlers who could catch some horrendous viral or bacterial infection as a result of being sprayed with slurry. Through no fault of their own.
Said farmer could've sprayed it anytime.

Theres always one

MACCA wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 2:23 pm

Same, great walk and scenery, even saw and heard the players training.

No excuse for littering or leaving your litter behind when you leave.

If they took it all home and respected the land, I'm sure the farmer wouldn't bat an eye.

Not much good it's done though, there's plenty at it now down there as we speak.

Just to add, the people ( some simply sitting in the sun enjoying the scenery ) said there was no warning or polite request to leave.
Who knows.

The lad who videod it said the farmer warned his group to leave his land after a few verbal and threats of muck spreading. He filmed it from the safety of the bridge 10 minutes later.

I walked the dog by the calder , a large group of travellers with horses and buggies just left the roadside and through a farmers gate. kids and horses in the river swimming about. dont think it was left littered though to be fair.

HollandsPies wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 2:46 pm

Whilst part of me thinks it's serves these selfish idiots right.
I spare a thought for their children/toddlers who could catch some horrendous viral or bacterial infection as a result of being sprayed with slurry. Through no fault of their own.
Said farmer could've sprayed it anytime.

He did it purposely targeting the families having picnics, whether they were warmed or not depends on who's story you read, see or believe.

It's been going on years, not something that's just come to light this last few days.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 2:56 pm

The lad who videod it said the farmer warned his group to leave his land after a few verbal and threats of muck spreading. He filmed it from the safety of the bridge 10 minutes later.

The gates were screwed closed today even the ones the Mitre anglers use

The farmers have been bolting gates and denying walkers access to the public foot paths. It's been going on years, Covid 19 was this years handy excuse to try and stop people visiting or enjoying the area.

Trespass in itself is not a criminal offence, so if the farmer had called the police, they wouldn 't have been interested.

For weeks now photo's have been on social media of the crap left behind. Predominantly alcohol cans and bottles but also dozens of gas cartridges.

Hardly the picnic fare of responsible adults I venture to suggest.

Several people have commented regarding dogs off the leash in fields of Sheep with new born lambs. Pleas from members of the public and not just the Farmer have been met with abuse on social media.

Just driven over Grane Road from Blackburn to Haslingden. 50 plus cars parked on Grane Road at the bottom of a quarry and gangs of kids on foot walking up from Haslingden.

Socially distancing is well and truly over

ColneMonkey wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 1:20 pm

Please, please let there be video of this!

Haha you echoed my thoughts. 100% behind the farmer with this one, there is a definite lack of respect for other peoples property these days.

Can't beat a bit of rough justice sometimes, reminds me of an incident at work. A fellow officer drank another officers (Bob) bottle of water from the fridge and when I said it wasn't his, he said "it's OK I'm going to the shop at lunchtime and I'll replace it" which was fair enough. I then caught him refilling the bottle from the tap and he said that Bob wouldn't know the difference. I told him it was deceitful and that I would tell Bob, he didn't seem bothered. Anyway, I told Bob and a few days later the officer walked into the office and saw Bob tipping the officers large tub of protein powder down the sink and filling it with water. When the officer complained, Bob said "I'm only doing what you did, replacing it with tap water" I just sat their with a smile of my face. Might seem a bit harsh but it did the trick, he didn't touch Bobs water again

Further info re the Grove Lane incident. I'd 2 birding friends down there at the time of the farmers confrontation. The group had 2 tents pitched and large blankets spread over his field. They'd also had a load of their rubbish strewn about. They gave him a lot of abuse when they were told to get off his land and then wouldn't go. So he sent for 4 people and they cleared the stuff and took it away on a trailer. Then he warned them, he would muck spreaded the field.
I mentioned on another post about the rubbish left in Towneley Park, after the Bank Holiday. Yesterday while walking up the riverside from the first old school bridge the whole length upto the last bridge had way over over 100 bottles/cans, either on the bank, or in the river. Just past the school bridge, there's beer and lager bottles and plastic coke bottles which have been tipped onto dry stones of the river bed. I've made enquiries about it being removed and was told, that's down to the River Authorities to do. If it's not moved before we get some decent rain, that will be carried downstream along with stuff further on.

Trouble is, I'm told is, the council or police don't have the manpower to stop and fine people for leaving litter.
They could have a purge on people taking food and drink containers into areas and not taking it home with them. It's beyond me, why the Councils Parks Director doesn't set up a liaison with the Police for an odd evening time clampdown. Id guesss they'd also get the odd drink and drugged up drivers. The answer could be, to ban alcohol in the Parks, then Towneley Park, could once again, become the Parks Jewel in the Crown.

Oh how I wish there was some footage of this.

Never mind muck spreading, he should have wheeled the combined harvester out.

https://www.facebook.com/adele.hanson.5 ... 308750541/

The police are taking action down there now.

I am a long time resident of Ightenhill and regularly use the paths to the River Calder and the cycleway to Padiham.
I fully agree that the land is private and people shouldn't use it as a picnic site or a camping site, Its also used by youths who go later at night to party and take their hippy crack and leave all the empty bottles litter and excretment everywhere.
(I have genuine sympathy for the farmers)


However
I also think the farmer was OTT in his actions on Saturday. There were a couple of women and their young children who were sprayed with a rotary type muck spreader. It's not just flinging a bit of animal dung. it's a high powered machine that uses chains that spin around and flings the dung. it might sound like a great You tube clip watching someone being covered in poo but we are talking about very young children being subjected to an onslaught from that machine. Seriously if that was your child how would you react ?

The dung will have been scooped up via a bucket/shovel will have also picked up chippings rocks etc. when the spreader is used these flig out at the speed of bullet
The farmer however irate should not have done this. it was dangerous and risked life over someone taking their kids to the river to relax (yes it's private and they were in the wrong I am not making excuses for them ) but the reaction wasnt fitting for trespass The area has been used for years it's not a new thing people relaxing on the river banks.
Also the local farmers in the area had blocked off the paths to the River Calder and access to the ightenhill/Padiham cycleway claiming COVID reasons at the start of the pandemic which infuriated the residents. The residents of the area have been down to the river over the past couple of days picking up litter and helping tidy the area. The farmers would be better working with the local community , they arent the enemy and police your land and help tidy it.
Today I see someone was taken away by the police for refusing to leave the area
which was the correct way to deal with the problem.

Considering who the farmer is, I would say these have got off lightly having some muck sprayed at them. Still a good effort though by him.

Seriously if that was your child how would you react

Simple answer is if I should not be there I wouldn't be. If I had gone thinking it was ok and then asked by the farmer to leave I would have left. If the farmer had told me he was going to "muck spread" I would have left even quicker. You see I consider my children to have been my responsibility no-one else.

For anyone who thinks the farmer was wrong, just put your address here and I,ll arrange for 30+ people to come round, get pi***d, drop empties all over the house and crap all over your stairs. They will then chase your pets out of the house and then leave all the doors and windows open to increase the flames from the fires they set.
Any takers?

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:03 pm

For anyone who thinks the farmer was wrong, just put your address here and I,ll arrange for 30+ people to come round, get pi***d, drop empties all over the house and crap all over your stairs. They will then chase your pets out of the house and then leave all the doors and windows open to increase the flames from the fires they set.
Any takers?

What a weird post

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:03 pm

For anyone who thinks the farmer was wrong, just put your address here and I,ll arrange for 30+ people to come round, get pi***d, drop empties all over the house and crap all over your stairs. They will then chase your pets out of the house and then leave all the doors and windows open to increase the flames from the fires they set.
Any takers?

Yeah sounds good. I’ll direct message my address if that’s ok though as want to make sure we keep numbers down to 30ish. Why would they be coming into my house though?

And do you know why I think the farmer was wrong? Because he broke the law. Or do you think it’s right to break the law? If someone’s sat on my garden wall and they won’t move when I ask, should I fling sh!t at them and their kids or should I call the police?

This thread stinks!

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑

Sun May 31, 2020 12:51 pm

There are also reports the same group were chasing and bothering the sheep and lambs.

This animal bothering really does look to be getting out of hand in East Lancs.