arrested by the FBI. If PA wasn't sweating before he may well be now.

Good, nasty piece of work she is.

This is going to get very messy and uncomfortable for some.
Let's hope she's better protected in prison than Epstein was, be it from herself or others wishing to keep her silent.

About time.. just hope she doesn't get a assisted suicide.

I wonder what type of deal they'll offer that will convince her to sing. She's got to be looking at natural life behind bars if she doesn't talk.

It won't only be Andy who has a sweat on today. A lot of rich and powerful people will be sweating too.

The Palace will be having Corgis. I mean kittens.

Lots of powerful people around, she will not last till the end of the month.

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:15 pm

arrested by the FBI. If PA wasn't sweating before he may well be now.

I'm sure he and his "friends" are plotting her demise as we speak.

About time too. These things take such a long time to sort out.

The Netflix series was excellent about Epstein. Interesting that the caretaker bloke on the private island has not been challenged on his comments of seeing randy Andy in the middle of the island activities.....as said above Andy will be getting more and more nervous now....

Andy and Julian Assagne should be quite safe while Anne Sacoolas, the woman who killed Harry Dunn last August refuses to leave the USA - and quite rightly so.
Until the Yanks cooperate over the lad's death, they should be told to do one.

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:20 pm

I'm sure he and his "friends" are plotting her demise as we speak.

Do you think it might involve a white Fiat Punto?

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:25 pm

Andy and Julian Assagne should be quite safe while Anne Sacoolas, the woman who killed Harry Dunn last August refuses to leave the USA - and quite rightly so.
Until the Yanks cooperate over the lad's death, they should be told to do one.

We could always do a swap

Clinton, Trump and quite a few others will be very nervous.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:18 pm

Clinton, Trump and quite a few others will be very nervous.

Hmmmmmm

Yacht trip needed, with a midnight stroll around the deck?

Has Prince Andrew ever been linked with girls under 16?

He often gets called a nonce online but that accusation is a casual put down these days.

We won’t extradite. He hasn’t committed a crime by our laws.

Prince Andrew to USA, Anne Sacoolas to UK (Julian Assange irrelevant in this matter) Justice needs to be seen to be done. I don't trust the US plea bargaining system and manipulation as this was why Epstein got off for so long.
This time every female victim needs to be heard in court not just a few.

We won’t extradite. He hasn’t committed a crime by our laws.

Nothing to do with English law.

Was she able to travel?

I’d have expected someone of her means to have moved well away from America, in order to avoid arrest.

It was surely obvious that it would only be a matter of time before the FBI came knocking at her door.

It’d be fantastic if this actually culminated in all of the wealthy, powerful, ‘untouchables’, with their snouts deep in a trough of filth, were actually brought to justice.

Sadly, I can’t see it ever happening to the extent that it should.

No doubt plenty of rich, famous and super rich used his services (Slick ,Randy etc ) but ultimately being flown or sailed to glamourous parties with what were mainly women “ of age “ doing the tricks is not the issue . It’s a money ( big money) driven case with assorted now skint wrinkled old brasses with Randy Andy being “ Lawyer heaven “ Imo Randy should have just admitted to boning the trollop when she was in the UK . Maxwell knows where the bodies are buried and has had ample time to prepare.

Trump looks watertight imo ,seems to have distanced himself long ago . And having the libido of a sloth he had little need for Epstein’s “ fanny island “ or whatever it was called .

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:15 pm

No doubt plenty of rich, famous and super rich used his services (Slick ,Randy etc ) but ultimately being flown or sailed to glamourous parties with what were mainly women “ of age “ doing the tricks is not the issue . It’s a money ( big money) driven case with assorted now skint wrinkled old brasses with Randy Andy being “ Lawyer heaven “ Imo Randy should have just admitted to boning the trollop when she was in the UK . Maxwell knows where the bodies are buried and has had ample time to prepare.

I’m pretty sure that underage women being essentially imprisoned and forced to have sex with people without their consent is the issue.

This could get covid-19 of the front pages

DCWat wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:14 pm

Was she able to travel?

It’d be fantastic if this actually culminated in all of the wealthy, powerful, ‘untouchables’, with their snouts deep in a trough of filth, were actually brought to justice.

Sadly, I can’t see it ever happening to the extent that it should.

Won't happen. Never does in these potential mega cases.
The circles the monster moved in contained too many powerful people.
Cause too many 'important' people too much mither, whether they're directly involved or not.

Precisely the same reason Septic Blatter never faced any significant charges.
They just made do with a few of his unimportant sidekicks.

The same thing will happen here.

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:23 pm

We”re talking different ages of consent though with their main crux being the “ 18” not the “16” which does of course make plenty of them “ underage” . Though I don’t think Epstein would have been too bothered what age for his personal concubines that’s for sure

Of course. Different countries (or states in this case) have different ages of consent. We don’t know that all the girls were over 16 in any case so using the UK’s age of consent doesn’t really seem relevant. The girls were underage and they were essentially imprisoned and forced to have sex.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:28 pm

This could get covid-19 of the front pages

Why, has she tested negative?

She is being referred to on US tv as Epstein’s little black. PA and Clinton are the 2 big names involved. Flight logs show Clinton traveling over 20 times on the Lolita Express. But of course the usual Clinton rules will apply. They are also saying she will do a deal with prosecutors

Try and leave your politics at home for once mate. This is about rich and powerful people from all sides of the political spectrum potentially abusing and raping young women.

We should all be on the same side for this one

Pimlico_Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:24 pm

Good, nasty piece of work she is.

Hope you’re not the judge...

Unfortunately no member of the government, or opposition for that matter will have the balls to say Prince Andrew should be extradited, if that's what the US authorities want, especially if it goes against the wishes of the Queen.

Channel 4 News led with this tonight and certainly didn't hold back with regard to Prince Andrew.

Interesting times.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:47 pm

Hope you’re not the judge...

Wish I was, evil bitch.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:51 pm

Unfortunately no member of the government, or opposition for that matter will have the balls to say Prince Andrew should be extradited, if that's what the US authorities want, especially if it goes against the wishes of the Queen.

There won't be many places he can or will want to visit outside of the UK where the US won't get him then, especially if they've got enough evidence to be sure of a conviction.
If the Queen has any sense she will retire him from the Royal family and strip him of the HrH/Prince etc.

You mean another step back?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:39 pm

There won't be many places he can or will want to visit outside of the UK where the US won't get him then, especially if they've got enough evidence to be sure of a conviction.
If the Queen has any sense she will retire him from the Royal family and strip him of the HrH/Prince etc.

Not a chance of that. He'll be covered by the sort of immunity that all top knobs like him get.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:18 pm

Not a chance of that. He'll be covered by the sort of immunity that all top knobs like him get.

Depends on how much stuff they find in Epsteins records/computers etc.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:41 pm

Depends on how much stuff they find in Epsteins records/computers etc.

I think you'll find that no matter how much evidence they find on Andrew, he'll remain untouchable. Royalty, Presidents, Dictators, they are all covered better than diplomats.

Of course, it will be another nail in our Royal Family's coffin but who cares about that? Apart from the Queen herself, (Maybe) they are all leeches.

Also a friend of our favorite breakfast TV presenter

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:18 pm

Trump looks watertight imo ,seems to have distanced himself long ago . And having the libido of a sloth he had little need for Epstein’s “ fanny island “ or whatever it was called .

“Fanny Island”. What’s the travel company?

Bop wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:51 pm

“Fanny Island”. What’s the travel company?

Thomas Cock?

'An Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion'. A fine film starring Gian Maria Volonte. It won the oscar for best foreign film in 1970.

Fazz wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:50 pm

Also a friend of our favorite breakfast TV presenter

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Richard Branson??

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 pm

Try and leave your politics at home for once mate. This is about rich and powerful people from all sides of the political spectrum potentially abusing and raping young women.

We should all be on the same side for this one

Didn’t see you complaining about Bosscats pics of Trump earlier !!

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:22 pm

Didn’t see you complaining about Bosscats pics of Trump earlier !!

Did you notice the post it was in response to that was talking about both Trump and Clinton. Also you might notice a subtle difference between people posting pics of Epstein with people (see photo of Piers Morgan) compared to someone starting to make it into some sort of political conspiracy theory.

Feel free to post any pics of who you like with Epstein just like Bosscat did and you wont get me complaining cause I suspect the are all in it up to their necks. Just for once dont let your politics consume your views on this thread cos as I said we are all on the same team.

I have little doubt Clinton is as guilty as anyone in this story and I hope he gets hung out to dry. I also have little doubt the same can be said of Trump. Is this something we can agree on or is there one of them you would like to defend on this issue?

It's not exactly an oil painting is it? ..barely any more attractive than its fat-jowled pig of a father.

If I was inclined to pay for my oats I'd be wanting something a bit more comely than that rancid old tart sitting on my face.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:33 pm

Did you notice the post it was in response to that was talking about both Trump and Clinton. Also you might notice a subtle difference between people posting pics of Epstein with people (see photo of Piers Morgan) compared to someone starting to make it into some sort of political conspiracy theory.

Feel free to post any pics of who you like with Epstein just like Bosscat did and you wont get me complaining cause I suspect the are all in it up to their necks. Just for once dont let your politics consume your views on this thread cos as I said we are all on the same team.

I have little doubt Clinton is as guilty as anyone in this story and I hope he gets hung out to dry. I also have little doubt the same can be said of Trump. Is this something we can agree on or is there one of them you would like to defend on this issue?

We will be able to agree providing that all these perverts are treated the same. In my experience that will NOT be the case. And no doubt the disgusting Prince Andrew will be protected by his mummy.

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:46 pm

We will be able to agree providing that all these perverts are treated the same. In my experience that will NOT be the case. And no doubt the disgusting Prince Andrew will be protected by his mummy.

I agree they will not be all treated the same but it will be because of power not political persuasion. The likes of Prince Andrew, Clinton and Trump will all be at the front of the queue for being protected and getting away with it.

Again its not political its about power so hopefully you will be just as disgusted by the way Trump is protected and defended as you will be about Clinton and Prince Andrew. Surely this is something we can agree on and that your current position is not to back Trump on this and not the other 2?