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The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:01 pm
by ClaretTony
As it stands neither Bournemouth nor Norwich can now reach the 45 points we’ve got.

Aston Villa can get 45 but would have to win every remaining game. That would mean them beating West Ham who then could only get 45. West Ham would then have to beat Watford who would then only be able to get 43 points.

That means we are mathematically safe and can look forward to a fifth successive season in the Premier League.

THE CLARETS ARE STAYING UP

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:04 pm
by bobinho
Out of interest, what do people think will be the ACTUAL figure that the last remaining safe place will have needed when it's all over?

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:04 pm
by Paul Waine
Great maths, CT.

Now, what results do we need to play in Europe again next season?

UTC

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:07 pm
by ElectroClaret
bobinho wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:04 pm
Out of interest, what do people think will be the ACTUAL figure that the last remaining safe place will have needed when it's all over?
33 points looks like it'll be enough to stay up now, unless one of them at the bottom goes on an unlikely run.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:07 pm
by ClaretTony
bobinho wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:04 pm
Out of interest, what do people think will be the ACTUAL figure that the last remaining safe place will have needed when it's all over?
The way some of this bottom lot are playing, not very many. I said when we beat Bournemouth and went from 34 to 37 that we’d got enough. I don’t think I’d change that now. Maybe about 35 at a guess.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:07 pm
by Vegas Claret
it's another amazing acheivement by the Manager and his team

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:09 pm
by charlyt
Was it ever in doubt?

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:11 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Great stuff. I was wondering whether we were still in the premier league when watching BBC at lunch time.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:15 pm
by jdrobbo
36

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:17 pm
by Bosscat
bobinho wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:04 pm
Out of interest, what do people think will be the ACTUAL figure that the last remaining safe place will have needed when it's all over?
35....

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:46 pm
by Silkyskills1
charlyt wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:09 pm
Was it ever in doubt?
Post-match Chelsea away.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:48 pm
by FactualFrank
34

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:01 pm
by jurek
And what a fantastic performance to do so given following the
3-0 loss to Chelsea in mid-January where we were just 3 points above the
bottom three and looking as if we could be in a serious relegation scrap
especially as we had, I think, Leicester and Man United to play in our next two games
which we as it happens we won.
To come back from that was more than decent and a credit to Dyche and the players.

We could end up with 50+ points and possibly a chance of European football
albeit I don't think we'll do it and it might just be a relief if we don't.
Don't really fancy going into Europe again especially with the numbers we currently have.

We'd need another 4 players at least and can't imagine our Chairman too keen
on bringing another 4 in.
He might sanction another two at best and that would depend on how much it might cost.
We might have to sell/sacrifice one or two of our best players ( McNeil and/or Tarkowski)
to generate additional funds to bring three or four in.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:06 pm
by nil_desperandum
33 points should be sufficient now.
Would be v surprised if either Villa or Bournemouth pick up 7 points from their remaining fixtures.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:07 pm
by Aclaret
jurek wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:01 pm

We might have to sell/sacrifice one or two of our best players ( McNeil and/or Tarkowski)
to generate additional funds to bring three or four in.
If we were to sell/sacrifice McNeil and/or Tarkowski we would need to bring in five or six.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:10 pm
by Vegas Claret
Nick Pope's penalty save v Leicester and our resulting win was huge

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:13 pm
by boatshed bill
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:10 pm
Nick Pope's penalty save v Leicester and our resulting win was huge
Turning point, I think

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:22 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:10 pm
Nick Pope's penalty save v Leicester and our resulting win was huge
Spot on. Pun intended.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:23 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Great achievement by Sean Dyche, the players, the club. The board.

It hasnt been in question for some time now. But always good to get it confirmed. Our form post chelsea has been incredible.

It was in doubt for me on NYD.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:41 pm
by tiger76
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:23 pm
Great achievement by Sean Dyche, the players, the club. The board.

It hasnt been in question for some time now. But always good to get it confirmed. Our form post chelsea has been incredible.

It was in doubt for me on NYD.
Yes that Villa game is possibly our worst performance since Hull Boxing Day 2015, and we know what happened then, the last 2 seasons we've been in the sticky stuff around the Xmas/NY, and we've managed to find a way to battle our way out of trouble, this shows we have the character when the going gets tough, that's important but it would be easier on the blood pressure, if we weren't down there in the 1st place.

Congrats to Sean and the lads for securing another PL season, 5 on the bounce is no easy task for a club of our means, and there's plenty who've speculated 100's of millions, and not had the desired result, and we've still got a shot at Europe again, that's no mean feat, and even if we don't manage top 8, we've got a very good chance of another top 10 finish, that must be considered a successful campaign in anyone's book.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:55 pm
by bfcjg
TBH Iwas reading through some old threads and thought we were going down this time. How wrong can you be. We need to keep and invest in Dyche to our maximum capacity.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:57 pm
by yorkyclaret
Don't be so sure, I was in William Hills in Brierfield earlier, bloke who looked a lot like Mike Garlick put a million on, at 100 to 1, for us to go down......hope the Administrators are busy.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:57 pm
by ClaretTony
Boxing Day 2018 - Burnley 1 Everton 5

Since
played 51 points 73

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:59 pm
by FactualFrank
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:57 pm
Boxing Day 2018 - Burnley 1 Everton 5

Since
played 51 points 73
We do seem to do ok after Christmas. Before Christmas, we're knackered, but 2020 we've not done so bloody bad.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:59 pm
by boatshed bill
tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:41 pm
Yes that Villa game is possibly our worst performance since Hull Boxing Day 2015, and we know what happened then, the last 2 seasons we've been in the sticky stuff around the Xmas/NY, and we've managed to find a way to battle our way out of trouble, this shows we have the character when the going gets tough, that's important but it would be easier on the blood pressure, if we weren't down there in the 1st place.

Congrats to Sean and the lads for securing another PL season, 5 on the bounce is no easy task for a club of our means, and there's plenty who've speculated 100's of millions, and not had the desired result, and we've still got a shot at Europe again, that's no mean feat, and even if we don't manage top 8, we've got a very good chance of another top 10 finish, that must be considered a successful campaign in anyone's book.
Watching that game with us losing to a very poor Villa side I honestly thought we'd had it. Fair play to SD and the squad for pulling us round.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:01 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:59 pm
Watching that game with us losing to a very poor Villa side I honestly thought we'd had it. Fair play to SD and the squad for pulling us round.
And yet, had we taken our chances in the second half we'd have won it. And the next game against Chelsea was harsh because some decisions really went against us. Even so, it amounted to four successive defeats with the next three against Leicester, Manchester United and Arsenal.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:03 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:01 pm
And yet, had we taken our chances in the second half we'd have won it. And the next game against Chelsea was harsh because some decisions really went against us. Even so, it amounted to four successive defeats with the next three against Leicester, Manchester United and Arsenal.
Exactly..I think we've had this conversation before :D . But I really did think we'd had it at the time given we couln't hit a barn door with the proverbial banjo.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:06 pm
by Burnley1989
There’s a poster Gordondale and I’ve never known a more negative guy in my life, nothing against him but I’m glad he doesn’t sit next to me! H

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:07 pm
by tiger76
FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:59 pm
We do seem to do ok after Christmas. Before Christmas, we're knackered, but 2020 we've not done so bloody bad.
Yes it used to be the reverse, we'd be strong until Christmas, and then injuries and suspensions would kick in, or we'd be forced to sell in January, and we'd plummet down the table, and that was true even in many of our lower division seasons.

To put 2020 into perspective we've lost to Villa, and that was a rocky horror picture show, Chelsea and Man City, our wins include Leicester, Man Utd at OT, and we've drawn with Arsenal & Tottenham in games we probably should have won. And crucially the games we were tipped to win we did win.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:50 pm
by Cajun
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:10 pm
Nick Pope's penalty save v Leicester and our resulting win was huge
That was massive - but for me equally important in that match was his brilliant save to his right in the first minute of the second half that stopped them going two up - would have been tough to come from two down. Both crucial saves that sparked our revival.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:40 pm
by dougcollins
Somebody with 36 will stay up.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:47 pm
by Steve1956
dougcollins wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:40 pm
Somebody with 36 will stay up.
Norwich ;)

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:52 pm
by CnBtruntru
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:47 pm
Norwich ;)
They won't get 26 :lol:

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:52 pm
by CnBtruntru
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:47 pm
Norwich ;)
They won't even get 26 :lol:

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:54 pm
by Steve1956
CnBtruntru wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:52 pm
They won't even get 26 :lol:
That's 52 :)

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:59 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
Well done to everybody at Turf Moor, safe with 6 games to play. Great stuff.

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:04 am
by exilecanada
First a pub name after our savior, can 'Sean Dyche, O.B.E.' be far behind?

:lol:

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:09 am
by Tribesmen
Super stuff again from the Clarets , really looking forward to next season even thou we are still in this one .

Re: The Clarets Are Staying Up

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:11 am
by Hipper
Cajun wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:50 pm
That was massive - but for me equally important in that match was his brilliant save to his right in the first minute of the second half that stopped them going two up - would have been tough to come from two down. Both crucial saves that sparked our revival.
Not to mention the Mee handball not given. We played well against Leicester that day but also rode our luck.

Until the Villa game we had mostly beaten those below us and lost to those above. Villa was a shock.

It's a fine achievement to be comfortably staying up with six games to go.