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John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:22 am
by bartons baggage
Is he going to be a claret again?

Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:25 am
by MACCA
Claret - possibly.
Burnley - probably not
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:28 am
by bartons baggage
We shall see.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:38 am
by jedi_master
Where have you heard this one bartons baggage?
Had a slightly above average season in La Liga with Celta Vigo scoring 7 league goals in 35 games (not sure how many were starts), still only 24 years old. He signed a five year deal with them.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:39 am
by claretblue
what with Tripps, Mee, Barton and........Guidetti
are Citeh our feeder club?

Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:41 am
by maccclaret
what with Heaton, Keane, Jones and.......OGS
are manyoo our feeder club?
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:41 am
by CumbrianClaret
Rumours about that we're trying to sign ex loan player now playing abroad .
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:43 am
by jedi_master
Rumours from where?
If it's Nixon his track record for Burnley seems to have become beyond patchy in the last 2 years.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:49 am
by ecc
"If it's Nixon his track record for Burnley seems to have become beyond patchy in the last 2 years."
Don't worry, jedi.
Nixon will be fully focused on matters down the road. His work will be easier now as he won't have to "guess" fees.

Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:54 am
by KRBFC
Where has this link come from?
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:57 am
by Bordeauxclaret
It'll be that Fredeick Nimani. Unfinished business at Turf Moor.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:18 pm
by Jambounchained
I can't see this happening at all myself. Is he really what we need?
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:26 pm
by claretspice
Interesting link. Accordingly to Soccerbase, he started only 12 league games for Celta Vigo last season, but made another 23 appearances from the bench, which suggests he couldn't quite break into their starting XI (although most of his starts seem to have come later in the season and like any player he could be forgiven for taking a while to adapt to a foreign league). But he did score 7 league goals despite that, and that in a team finished 6th in La Liga, so a good side. And he also scored 5 in 7 in the Copa Del Rey.
Would fit the bill as the sort of mobile target man we could do with adding this summer. I thought based on past discussions his wages were out of our league though.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:27 pm
by bartons baggage
And what do we need jambo?.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:35 pm
by jedi_master
Jambounchained wrote:I can't see this happening at all myself. Is he really what we need?
I would say Guidetti would be quite a coup for a club like Burnley if it's a permanent deal, he plays most games for Sweden alongside Ibrahimovic, has top scored in the Eeredivisie (not hard, granted) and has just finished in 6th place in La Liga with a team that has been praised for it's fast, attacking football. Nolito who I assume he has been playing alongside is a fabulous player for Celta Vigo.
24 is a good age for the amount of top level experience he has both domestically and internationally - he would cost a wedge I imagine.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:50 pm
by CumbrianClaret
A BFC supporting neighbour told me yesterday Jedi_master - don't know where he'd got it from .
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:51 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
He looked a class apart during the U21 tournament that he won with Sweden last year.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:54 pm
by OSC Burnley '55
CumbrianClaret wrote:Rumours about that we're trying to sign ex loan player now playing abroad .
could be Chalobah just as easily as Guidetti .. on loan at Napoli last season.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:59 pm
by bobinho
Well I sincerely hope it's not guidetti.
He was shocking on loan. Loads of people shouting "potential" but a bit like McCann in that it wasn't realised.
If we are lookin for a forward, he needs to be better than this fella.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:05 pm
by bartons baggage
OSC Burnley '55 wrote:could be Chalobah just as easily as Guidetti .. on loan at Napoli last season.
I got told he had a bad attitude,hence the lack of game time for us.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:05 pm
by Pickles
bobinho wrote:Well I sincerely hope it's not guidetti.
He was shocking on loan. Loads of people shouting "potential" but a bit like McCann in that it wasn't realised.
If we are lookin for a forward, he needs to be better than this fella.
That's right, judge him on five games five years ago.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:10 pm
by Winstonswhite
Funnily enough i was reading up on him this morning following his comments concerning Zlatan.
Something of a cult hero in Sweden after captaining the Under 21's to the title last year and as someone said above he looked a fantastic player- certainly a lot better than when he played for us originally
He would be a fantastic signing. Cant see it happening in a million years though
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:49 pm
by mkmel
Wasn't Guidetti carrying a few extra lbs when he played on loan for us which didn't help his mobility
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:55 pm
by claretspice
I think anyone judging Guidetti by how he performed (or didn't) for us on loan in 2010-11 is wasting their time personally. He was a kid of 18, he's now a man of 24. He's effectively a completely different player.
Rodriguez didn't set the world alight in loans at Sterling or Barnsley. Any Southampton fan judging him by reference to that when he signed for them must have looked a bit daft 18 months later.
I'd be surprised if this was a goer, but if he is a target, I like the idea.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:03 pm
by ClaretTony
mkmel wrote:Wasn't Guidetti carrying a few extra lbs when he played on loan for us which didn't help his mobility
Absolutely not - the opposite, very mobile and lightening quick.
I'm pleased to see he's been able to play again in the last two years when it looked very likely that his illness had ended his career
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:09 pm
by Karhu_Claret
His goals from this season can be found on youtube (I'd post it but the music content is questionable). Nice variety to them; he hits the ball well and has very good movement in the channels and within the box. The one against Athletico stands out - it's an absolute peach from outside of the box.
I'd be very happy if he was wearing claret and blue next season!
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:17 pm
by Bones
Think he scored a pen in the nou camp when Celta got hammered last season.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:37 pm
by Jambounchained
I could be totally wrong, he might add something, I don't know. None of us really do.
He just doesn't seem to have 'pulled up many trees' wherever he's been (Feyenoord aside).
I would've just preferred someone in the ilk of Blake myself.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:41 pm
by Karhu_Claret
He did indeed Bones, won it himself too.
If we are in the market for a mobile, physical and technically proficient centre forward (perhaps as an upgrade on Sam) then signing Guidetti could represent a bit of a coup.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:43 pm
by ClaretTony
Jambounchained wrote:I could be totally wrong, he might add something, I don't know. None of us really do.
He just doesn't seem to have 'pulled up many trees' wherever he's been (Feyenoord aside).
I would've just preferred someone in the ilk of Blake myself.
It as during his time at Feyenoord when the illness hit him and his loan was cut short. He played his last game for Feyenoord in April 2012 and didn't start another game until he'd joined Celtic in August 2014.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:44 pm
by Goobs
Jambounchained wrote:I could be totally wrong, he might add something, I don't know. None of us really do.
He just doesn't seem to have 'pulled up many trees' wherever he's been (Feyenoord aside).
I would've just preferred someone in the ilk of Blake myself.
Nathan?? Robbie?? Yohan??
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:44 pm
by Jambounchained
Blimey, I knew nothing of an illness!
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:00 pm
by billyhamilton82
For the money he would cost I would much prefer Dwight Gayle.
Similar players and would probably be a similar price although I would suggest Gayle has more pace.
Although he hasn't set the Premier League alight (mainly due to lack of opportunity) he would certainly, IMO be a more viable option.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:04 pm
by ClaretTony
Jambounchained wrote:Blimey, I knew nothing of an illness!
This article is from October 2012 but it was another 22 months before he started another game
http://goo.gl/z7duiO
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:06 pm
by Lord Beamish
billyhamilton82 wrote:For the money he would cost I would much prefer Dwight Gayle.
Similar players and would probably be a similar price although I would suggest Gayle has more pace.
Although he hasn't set the Premier League alight (mainly due to lack of opportunity) he would certainly, IMO be a more viable option.
Rumours abound that Gayle doesn't fancy leaving the South East.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:07 pm
by Jambounchained
That's absolutely crazy. Fair play to him for coming back.
How much of a transfer fee would we be looking at? Surely he wouldn't come cheap.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:09 pm
by bobinho
One mans "lightening quick" is another mans "slower than a week in jail".
I seem to remember him as mkmel does. Perhaps my memory is playing tricks.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:04 pm
by Vegas Claret
He's played very well in La Liga this season and destroyed Ashley Williams for Swedens 3rd goal the other night against Wales
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:05 pm
by ClaretTony
bobinho wrote:One mans "lightening quick" is another mans "slower than a week in jail".
I seem to remember him as mkmel does. Perhaps my memory is playing tricks.
He was very, very quick
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:26 pm
by quoonbeatz
i don't remember him being that quick either. he was technically good though and his movement was strong; he found space really well as i remember.
he was dubbed the swedish wayne rooney in his younger days as he had a similar body shape.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:36 pm
by Rowls
I wasn't impressed when I saw him on loan.
That was getting on for six years ago though. If Dyche thinks he's worth a punt that's good enough for me.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:37 pm
by OSC Burnley '55
bartons baggage wrote:I got told he had a bad attitude,hence the lack of game time for us.
I hadn't heard that .. don't know to be fair
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:08 pm
by claretspice
I can't remember whether he was fat or lean, fast or slow when he played for us - I remember him being a kid who had a stocky frame but was still obviously filling into it and like Quoon I remember his movement being smart.
A quick watch of that Youtube video though suggests that whatever he once was, he's now a solidly built forward who looks more imposing than the 6"1 he's given as (so ideal for a target man) who can certainly shift when he's moving. Only highlights, but physically, he's very impressive in the reel.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:05 pm
by bartons baggage
billyhamilton82 wrote:For the money he would cost I would much prefer Dwight Gayle.
Similar players and would probably be a similar price although I would suggest Gayle has more pace.
Although he hasn't set the Premier League alight (mainly due to lack of opportunity) he would certainly, IMO be a more viable option.
3 million isn't a lot.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:10 pm
by ClaretTony
bartons baggage wrote:I got told he had a bad attitude,hence the lack of game time for us.
Not what I was told - but Man City took him back once Laws had gone - think the deal had been done with someone at City who was a mate of Laws.
Was thinking, a summer without a Guidetti link wouldn't be a summer. We get one every year.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:14 pm
by claretspice
Isn't the bad attitude thing a reference to Chalobah?
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:16 pm
by ClaretTony
claretspice wrote:Isn't the bad attitude thing a reference to Chalobah?
Certainly wasn't Guidetti from what I've been told.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:24 pm
by bartons baggage
ClaretTony wrote:Not what I was told - but Man City took him back once Laws had gone - think the deal had been done with someone at City who was a mate of Laws.
Was thinking, a summer without a Guidetti link wouldn't be a summer. We get one every year.
The bad attitude was chabola, well that's what i got told.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:26 pm
by ClaretTony
bartons baggage wrote:The bad attitude was chabola, well that's what i got told.
I think it was obvious something wasn't right given our shortage of midfield players at the time and him not getting a game. He's done well at Napoli though, made 5 sub appearances in Serie A.
Re: John Guidetti
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:40 pm
by bartons baggage
True, i hope there is some truth in the Guidetti thing though,he looks something like a player and with the input of Dyche,well who knows.