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Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:05 pm
by FactualFrank
Will hopefully be a decent game.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:17 pm
by Aclaret
FactualFrank wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:05 pm
Will hopefully be a decent game.
Let's hope so, often 1st legs are cagey affairs.
I fancy a narrow away win.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:19 pm
by randomclaret2
We' ll have the smallest crowds in the League next season unless one of these 2 get promoted.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:31 pm
by FactualFrank
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:19 pm
We' ll have the smallest crowds in the League next season unless one of these 2 get promoted.
I think it'll be Fulham that go up, but really hope it isn't.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:45 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
Want Bees to win but they have been legless their last two games and Swansea must be on a massive high.
Brewster looks like one of the lucky ones kissed by the gods. Everything he tries ends up in the net.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:51 pm
by Steve1956

What a terrible game
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:59 pm
by MACCA
Was pinning my hopes on this being the game that provided me with watching some football today.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:00 pm
by Steve1956
Swansea's manager looks like quasimodo

Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:55 pm
by FactualFrank
Swansea get a penalty but it's saved.
When I saw the short run up I did have my doubts.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:56 pm
by FactualFrank
Brentford down to 10 men
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:56 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
Yet another pen where the standing foot points exactly where he places it. 9 out of 10 do this.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:57 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
What a poor decision.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:58 pm
by ClaretFelix
games gone now. Absolutely terrible decision
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:58 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
I like Stroud but that is a terrible red card decision.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:59 pm
by Vegas Claret
what a nonsense red card, game completely up it's own arse with abysmal refs
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:10 pm
by Goodclaret
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:59 pm
what a nonsense red card, game completely up it's own arse with abysmal refs
Dermot Gallagher has already come out and said the red card is the correct decision as the ball could have been seriously hurt.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:10 pm
by tiger76
Could be a crucial penalty miss in the context of the tie, i guess Rico Henry will miss the 2nd leg, and the final if Brentford get that far.
The pictures I've seen suggest it was a perfect tackle, but i haven't seen it in real time, so i might be wrong, but given the comments on this thread i doubt it.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:13 pm
by KRBFC
B0llocks decision, the Swansea players got Henry sent off by pressuring a weak referee.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:13 pm
by FactualFrank
Swansea 1-0 up
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:15 pm
by jdrobbo
Are Brentford doing a ‘Reading 08/09?’
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:18 pm
by tiger76
Ayew atoning for his dreadful pen, Swansea needed that, if they can add a 2nd, Brentford face an uphill battle in the home leg.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:19 pm
by FactualFrank
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:18 pm
Ayew atoning for his dreadful pen, Swansea needed that, if they can add a 2nd, Brentford face an uphill battle in the home leg.
Yeah, 1-0 isn't enough. They need a second.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:29 pm
by tiger76
Finished 1-0 tie very much in the balance.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:32 pm
by ClaretTony
Stroud - what a poor referee he is
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:45 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
More proof, if it were needed, that the ball is not important in football these days. Safety of players takes precedence over everything, it is what the modern fans want.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:52 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
So Henry has his red card overturned, however, when he was dismissed it was 0-0 and Swansea played for 30 minutes with 10 men in what was the first leg of this double-header.
How long will it be before the FA, or whoever, decide that, should a player be dismissed in the first leg of a game and then the decision subsequently overturned, the opposition should start the second leg game with 10 men for the same time as their opponents had played the first leg?
I know that it's silly, however, the way that the game is going, nothing would surprise me!
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:21 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Good that it’s been overturned. For Brentford’s sake I hope it’s not too late.
As for what the fans want and the way football is going. I’ve not spoken to anyone who agreed it was a red card and the Football League clearly don’t think it was.
Perhaps it’s more accurate to say that it’s the way refereeing is going and that’s the problem.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:59 pm
by FactualFrank
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:52 pm
How long will it be before the FA, or whoever, decide that, should a player be dismissed in the first leg of a game and then the decision subsequently overturned, the opposition should start the second leg game with 10 men for the same time as their opponents had played the first leg?
That has the potential to be extremely complicated as there's so many variables at play, you could then say the player not playing in the second leg (for 30 minutes), isn't as good as the player who got wrongly dismissed. It would just be a nightmare and impossible to make fair, due to these variables.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:10 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
FactualFrank wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:59 pm
That has the potential to be extremely complicated as there's so many variables at play, you could then say the player not playing in the second leg (for 30 minutes), isn't as good as the player who got wrongly dismissed. It would just be a nightmare and impossible to make fair, due to these variables.
Frank I know that, however, I have no confidence that those running the game these days will not think of some hair-brained scheme, after all, they introduced VAR so anything is possible.
Bordeaux thinks that it the way that refereeing is going that is at fault, however, when the Laws change as they have done and players can be penalised for endangering an opponent, making a reckless challenge, being out of control etc., etc. ad nauseam it will only get worse and there will be less consistency than there is now.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:19 pm
by Vegas Claret
good job it wasn't a Cardiff or Swansea player, Welsh FA would have over turned it before he was off the pitch
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:12 pm
by FactualFrank
So who will be meeting Fulham in the final?
Brentford seem to be big favourites and I think they'd have more chance in the final, so would prefer them to win.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:39 pm
by ElectroClaret
Fulham were quite impressive against Cardiff the other day, presuming they make the final, both Brentford and Swansea would have a job matching them.
Hope Brentford go all the way up though.
Be one relegation place filled.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:51 pm
by ClaretTony
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:52 pm
So Henry has his red card overturned, however, when he was dismissed it was 0-0 and Swansea played for 30 minutes with 10 men in what was the first leg of this double-header.
How long will it be before the FA, or whoever, decide that, should a player be dismissed in the first leg of a game and then the decision subsequently overturned, the opposition should start the second leg game with 10 men for the same time as their opponents had played the first leg?
I know that it's silly, however, the way that the game is going, nothing would surprise me!
Could make it easier by not giving Keith Stroud any games - bloody hell, this is the referee who didn't know what to do when a player encroached at a penalty. That got him suspended. He got away lightly.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:02 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Could make it easier by not giving Keith Stroud any games - bloody hell, this is the referee who didn't know what to do when a player encroached at a penalty. That got him suspended. He got away lightly.
Regardless of that cock-up, the game last week was his 94th since that incident in April 2017 and he is in his 16th season as a league referee and is a professional referee. Such is football these days because many young people are qualifying to become referees, however, they are then subjected to so much abuse at some matches that they just pack it in and this means that the older, experienced referees are not being replaced.
In local football up here in Northumberland there are a few guys in their 70s who have been asked to go out and perform just so games could take place.
By the way, I do not enjoy watching Stroud referee, it is time he packed in.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:19 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
3 successive goalless games for Bees. I worry for them and can see Brewster grabbing one for Swans. Fingers crossed for Bees.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:24 pm
by Rowls
Come on you Beeeeees!
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:56 pm
by Vegas Claret
1-0 Brentford
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:57 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
Watkins scores.1-0
Just before FK, in corner, against Henry. I hate that decision. Swan 1ft away from him knocks the ball past him then runs into him. What is he supposed to do?
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:57 pm
by Steve1956
Great move..great goal
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Was nice to have Mick McCarthy backing up Sian Massey's offside call. She is as he said a very good lino, and its one in the eye for the neanderthals to have MM back her up
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:01 pm
by box_of_frogs
Come on Brentford!!!!!!!!
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:01 pm
by Vegas Claret
2-0
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:02 pm
by Vegas Claret
this could be done by half time, blowing Swansea away
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:03 pm
by ElectroClaret
Well placed header for the second.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:03 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
2-0
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:04 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
ZizkovClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm
Was nice to have Mick McCarthy backing up Sian Massey's offside call. She is as he said a very good lino, and its one in the eye for the neanderthals to have MM back her up
Her and Camm are brilliant at offside calls.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:07 pm
by ElectroClaret
Nearly 3, hits the post. The makings of a good game this, Swans only losing by one on aggregate.
Next goal will sort things...
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:15 pm
by bfcjg
Excellent I would love Brentford to come up.
Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:16 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
bfcjg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:15 pm
Excellent I would love Brentford to come up.
Heart says this, head says not so we can maybe pick up a few of their players

Re: Swansea City v Brentford
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:17 pm
by ClaretTony
ZizkovClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm
Was nice to have Mick McCarthy backing up Sian Massey's offside call. She is as he said a very good lino, and its one in the eye for the neanderthals to have MM back her up
She’s an outstanding assistant referee. I’d put her alongside Andy Garratt, who is just retiring, and Darren Cann.