5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:34 pm
Good news, back to 3 next season
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5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
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Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:35 pm
Just came on to post this - excellent news
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:36 pm
Now hopefully get rid of the drinks breaks
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:39 pm
Good.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:43 pm
9 clubs voted to keep 5 subs and 11 clubs voted against. It was 16-4 in favour for project restart but thankfully thrown out for the full season.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:47 pm
I think it is safe to say the 9 clubs will have big squads.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:48 pm
Sanity prevails.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:53 pm
I think we know that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd and Spurs will be in the nine. Wouldn't like to hazard a guess at the other three to be honest.dpinsussex wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:47 pmI think it is safe to say the 9 clubs will have big squads.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:55 pm
Probably all the clubs involved in Europe Plus voted yes - Burnley voted for just the 1 sub
TBDG
TBDG
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:56 pm
Leeds will have been the other 3 votes; they're a massive club you know.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:56 pm
Backwards step
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:59 pm
Yep, but only for a doctor certified injury.theboydonegood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:55 pmProbably all the clubs involved in Europe Plus voted yes - Burnley voted for just the 1 sub
TBDG
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:07 pm
Great news we all know Sean has issues with using any subs
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:19 pm
You're always best when living up to your username. It's when you throw in opinions that you might actually hold that lose track of things.
Keep it up, DA.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:20 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:28 pm
I've changed the thread title to avoid starting another thread
Clubs have agreed to adopt the FIFA protocol for VAR (vote was unanimous) - should see some changes particularly with the referees looking at the monitors more often.
Clubs have agreed to adopt the FIFA protocol for VAR (vote was unanimous) - should see some changes particularly with the referees looking at the monitors more often.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:34 pm
Well. as VAR is not being turned off ( my preference ) I hope the club has used the off time to put a second screen up at the turf, just in case we ever get to watch live again. Got very ****** off with not being able to see what was going on from the Longside
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:36 pm
I believe the club have a second screen, nowhere to put it though.theboydonegood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:34 pmWell. as VAR is not being turned off ( my preference ) I hope the club has used the off time to put a second screen up at the turf, just in case we ever get to watch live again. Got very ****** off with not being able to see what was going on from the Longside
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:40 pm
Bizarre, thats like you buying a 2nd 3rd 4th etc TV with nowhere to put it.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:36 pmI believe the club have a second screen, nowhere to put it though.
I wonder why it cant go on top of the other disabled stand.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:41 pm
Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:40 pmBizarre, thats like you buying a 2nd 3rd 4th etc TV with nowhere to put it.
I wonder why it cant go on top of the other disabled stand.
Was told it was a 12" black n white portable so needs to be lower down
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:48 pm
I can't remember the exact reasoning but you couldn't put it there because of the access required to that stand. The obvious solution would be the diagonal corner to where the screen is now but there's no proper corner there because of the misaligned Bob Lord and cricket field stands.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:40 pmBizarre, thats like you buying a 2nd 3rd 4th etc TV with nowhere to put it.
I wonder why it cant go on top of the other disabled stand.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:09 pm
They could always install it at Ewood Park just to remind tham what Premier League football is about!ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:36 pmI believe the club have a second screen, nowhere to put it though.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:04 pm
Great news.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:50 pm
So we are saying they bought a new big screen without planning where to put it ! Can't believe they couldn't have included it in the plans for the built in corner. Real incompetence is that. Something that the supporters club should be raising
Tbdg
Tbdg
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:57 pm
Something the Supporters Club should be raising? - Burnley FC Supporters Groups have raised it on a number of occasions but there is no way it could have been built into the plans for that corner if you go and look, there is no room for it so that's not incompetence, it was never going there.theboydonegood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:50 pmSo we are saying they bought a new big screen without planning where to put it ! Can't believe they couldn't have included it in the plans for the built in corner. Real incompetence is that. Something that the supporters club should be raising
Tbdg
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:36 pm
On top of the Bob Lord standClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:36 pmI believe the club have a second screen, nowhere to put it though.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:45 pm
This is from the Guardian, who report it was voted overwhelmingly to return to three subs. No more drinks breaks either, thankfully.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... stitutionsLeagues are free to determine whether to introduce the measure and at the Premier League’s AGM on Thursday clubs voted overwhelmingly against it. They will return to making a maximum of three substitutes from a bench of seven players.
The five-substitutes rule was widely perceived to favour bigger clubs with deeper squads. The use of drinks breaks during each half is another measure that will not feature next season.
The 20 shareholders – which for the first time included the promoted sides Leeds United, West Bromwich Albion and Fulham – held preliminary discussions over a plan for curtailment should the necessity arise in the event of a resurgence of the coronavirus.
The league also confirmed that it would fully implement Fifa’s VAR protocols from next season. The controversial technology had been used differently in England to a number of other countries, including a recommendation that referees should not use their pitchside monitors.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:49 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:55 pm
Perhaps it was a BOGOF, to use the words of Jeff Brown!theboydonegood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:50 pmSo we are saying they bought a new big screen without planning where to put it ! Can't believe they couldn't have included it in the plans for the built in corner. Real incompetence is that. Something that the supporters club should be raising
Tbdg
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:22 pm
Strap it to the floodlight with some cable ties
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm
That's fine but surely before it was purchased they must have considered just where they would put it!ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:57 pmSomething the Supporters Club should be raising? - Burnley FC Supporters Groups have raised it on a number of occasions but there is no way it could have been built into the plans for that corner if you go and look, there is no room for it so that's not incompetence, it was never going there
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:38 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:52 pm
Is there a new rule about remembering to switch on Hawkeye?
Bad luck, Bournemouth.
Bad luck, Bournemouth.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:33 am
Its sat I'm Mike's house a backhander job from his brother Harry.theboydonegood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:50 pmSo we are saying they bought a new big screen without planning where to put it ! Can't believe they couldn't have included it in the plans for the built in corner. Real incompetence is that. Something that the supporters club should be raising
Tbdg
FYI
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:14 am
I suppose they will have to build a new stand for the screen. This bogof could become expensive. 
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:06 am
They could suspend it from the blimp...thats if they ever found it. 
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:03 pm
brand is a Gibsontheboydonegood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:50 pmSo we are saying they bought a new big screen without planning where to put it ! Can't believe they couldn't have included it in the plans for the built in corner. Real incompetence is that. Something that the supporters club should be raising
Tbdg
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:56 pm
As regards the VAR change, I'm all for the ref looking at the monitor. There's so many rules where it states "in the opinion of the referee". When another referee has been overruling on the pitch decisions from a room somewhere it doesn't make 100% sense, decisions should have consistency.
As for the goalkeeper off the line for penalties, not sure I agree with that one. It's virtually impossible to move your feet perfectly sideways on the line when diving and the odds are so stacked against keepers anyway...
As for the goalkeeper off the line for penalties, not sure I agree with that one. It's virtually impossible to move your feet perfectly sideways on the line when diving and the odds are so stacked against keepers anyway...
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:01 pm
The odds should be stacked against keepers though as penalties are, well a penalty against the offending team.the_fat_shearer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:56 pmAs regards the VAR change, I'm all for the ref looking at the monitor. There's so many rules where it states "in the opinion of the referee". When another referee has been overruling on the pitch decisions from a room somewhere it doesn't make 100% sense, decisions should have consistency.
As for the goalkeeper off the line for penalties, not sure I agree with that one. It's virtually impossible to move your feet perfectly sideways on the line when diving and the odds are so stacked against keepers anyway...
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:15 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:59 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:53 am
Yeah, and as I said, the odds are stacked against them so no need to make it impossible, otherwise just award a goal rather than a penalty under your rational as it's virtually impossible not to put one foot slightly forward when diving to the side so if they are really true to it then theoretically they would just keep retaking until they scored.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:29 pm
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:47 pm
Keeps coming back like a bad smell
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:12 pm
Saving on the tv license more likeClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:36 pmI believe the club have a second screen, nowhere to put it though.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:28 pm
How interesting that the teams with huge squads are the ones claiming to struggle to field a team while the clubs with smaller squads seem to manage OK. Almost as if it was nothing to do with injuries at all, just a way of trying to get another advantage over the clubs with less money. I hope I'm not being over-cynical there.Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:29 pmBig clubs bringing up the 5 subs again
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54745978
I have used my experience as a footballer and as a spectator to come up with what I think is a workable system for these clubs like Man City. What they could do, if their players are unable to play 2 games in a week, is this - only play them for 1 game. Put someone else in the team for the other game. Revolutionary, I know, but if they leave out the unfit players, they can perhaps avoid too many injuries.
And another revolutionary idea - if you don't have 7 outfield players who can manage a full 90 minutes, then perhaps you need to work on your fitness.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:30 pm
Post of the daydsr wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:28 pmHow interesting that the teams with huge squads are the ones claiming to struggle to field a team while the clubs with smaller squads seem to manage OK. Almost as if it was nothing to do with injuries at all, just a way of trying to get another advantage over the clubs with less money. I hope I'm not being over-cynical there.
I have used my experience as a footballer and as a spectator to come up with what I think is a workable system for these clubs like Man City. What they could do, if their players are unable to play 2 games in a week, is this - only play them for 1 game. Put someone else in the team for the other game. Revolutionary, I know, but if they leave out the unfit players, they can perhaps avoid too many injuries.
And another revolutionary idea - if you don't have 7 outfield players who can manage a full 90 minutes, then perhaps you need to work on your fitness.
Re: 5 subs knocked on the head - and VAR change
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:00 am
Just kneeling and Man Utd to bugger off, and we've cracked it.