The Parting of the Ways
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Not good enough,ageing squad,not replacing leaving players with better players.This years premier League is best for a while,with every club being able to splash the cash.Think were down this season only needs a couple of injuries to key players and were struggling.Weve had a good run but was inevitable we would go.,just can't compete financially.
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Clearly the feud between Garlick and Dyche over recruitment is the root cause of the troubles that is also transmitting to the players.
Dyche won’t resign PL managers don’t it would be too damaging to their brand, no one wants to hire a quitter.
I’m addition Dyche has probably been made aware that ALK will want some level of control
over player recruitment, squad selection, style of football they want to see played, non of which will sit comfortably at all with Dyche. This leaves Dyche with very few options, his constant moaning about the situation is resulting in a toxic environment that has destroyed the believe on the pitch and is slowly damaging Dyche himself as an employable manager Boards and Chairmen will think twice about hiring a manager who verbally berates them in the media if they don’t get what they want even when it’s true.
I think we must all pray for some kind of harmonious takeover that will inject the finances desperately need into the club and Garlick, Dyche and ALK find away of working together otherwise there are some very dark days ahead for Burnley Football Club.
Dyche won’t resign PL managers don’t it would be too damaging to their brand, no one wants to hire a quitter.
I’m addition Dyche has probably been made aware that ALK will want some level of control
over player recruitment, squad selection, style of football they want to see played, non of which will sit comfortably at all with Dyche. This leaves Dyche with very few options, his constant moaning about the situation is resulting in a toxic environment that has destroyed the believe on the pitch and is slowly damaging Dyche himself as an employable manager Boards and Chairmen will think twice about hiring a manager who verbally berates them in the media if they don’t get what they want even when it’s true.
I think we must all pray for some kind of harmonious takeover that will inject the finances desperately need into the club and Garlick, Dyche and ALK find away of working together otherwise there are some very dark days ahead for Burnley Football Club.
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As fair as I am aware Dyche and Woan really want to work with the new systems that are potentially in the table and have given it the green light from a management level.texasbrit wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:55 amClearly the feud between Garlick and Dyche over recruitment is the root cause of the troubles that is also transmitting to the players.
Dyche won’t resign PL managers don’t it would be too damaging to their brand, no one wants to hire a quitter.
I’m addition Dyche has probably been made aware that ALK will want some level of control
over player recruitment, squad selection, style of football they want to see played, non of which will sit comfortably at all with Dyche. This leaves Dyche with very few options, his constant moaning about the situation is resulting in a toxic environment that has destroyed the believe on the pitch and is slowly damaging Dyche himself as an employable manager Boards and Chairmen will think twice about hiring a manager who verbally berates them in the media if they don’t get what they want even when it’s true.
I think we must all pray for some kind of harmonious takeover that will inject the finances desperately need into the club and Garlick, Dyche and ALK find away of working together otherwise there are some very dark days ahead for Burnley Football Club.
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Because there's a good chance no other Premier league club would want him? So he's looking at one of the bigger Championship clubs. Forest or Derby would allow him to move back to the family home, they could potentially offer him a big bonus to get them promoted etc. Plenty of reasons it could appeal to him.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:18 amOK I give in.
Why have Forest become the go to club for Dyche all of a sudden?
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He won’t be going anywhere until at least January.His huge bonus for keeping us in the premier league is payable if he is still at the club in the following January.
Unless a club is willing to pay him the amount but would be expensive
Unless a club is willing to pay him the amount but would be expensive
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Both clubs are a real mess, more than we ever were when he took over.jrgbfc wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:48 amBecause there's a good chance no other Premier league club would want him? So he's looking at one of the bigger Championship clubs. Forest or Derby would allow him to move back to the family home, they could potentially offer him a big bonus to get them promoted etc. Plenty of reasons it could appeal to him.
The amount of work required to correct their disjointed squads is mental.
Plus there is no guarantee he could replicate the form he did here.
They've also both got crackpot owners.
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Give Dyche an average squad in the Championship and I'd back him to at least get them in the top 6, just by getting them fit and well organised. Obviously he was helped massively at Burnley by inheriting a pretty good squad, including the likes of Trippier, Ings and Shackell.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:41 amBoth clubs are a real mess, more than we ever were when he took over.
The amount of work required to correct their disjointed squads is mental.
Plus there is no guarantee he could replicate the form he did here.
They've also both got crackpot owners.
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Our owners arnt exactly brilliant at the moment are they?GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:41 amBoth clubs are a real mess, more than we ever were when he took over.
The amount of work required to correct their disjointed squads is mental.
Plus there is no guarantee he could replicate the form he did here.
They've also both got crackpot owners.
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Our owners or Mel and the gun toting Greek...gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:02 amOur owners arnt exactly brilliant at the moment are they?
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Roy Hodgson is probably in his final season at Crystal Palace.
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Dyches spats are now getting to the players and are not doing anybody any good.
He either needs to shut up and get on with the job he is paid handsomely to do or find another job.
Times are hard for clubs without billionaire owners and he needs to get his head around this.Play the younger players more, if we go down so be it.at least they will have gained premier experience and may be our stars of the future.
He either needs to shut up and get on with the job he is paid handsomely to do or find another job.
Times are hard for clubs without billionaire owners and he needs to get his head around this.Play the younger players more, if we go down so be it.at least they will have gained premier experience and may be our stars of the future.
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A lot of the Palace fans think Hodgson is too negative, not sure how popular appointing Dyche would be with his brand of football....kentonclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:06 amRoy Hodgson is probably in his final season at Crystal Palace.
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It shows what a fragile thing Burnley FC is if a disagreement between the chairman and manager can affect results on the field. The relationship can’t always have been bad, so they should resolve whatever it is - seek arbitration or counselling if need be. The current situation isn’t working.
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You are living in the past. The present position is played three and lost three and have zero points. To put another way Burnley are next to bottom in the league and twelve points behind the leaders. Mr Dyche's record this season is one of the worst there has been whilst the club have been in the top division. To resolve this problem either the Chairman, Manager or both have to go.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:27 pmA manger who guided us to 10th should go? Ok mate.
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Bedwetting seems to be the craze. Is this like the ice bucket challenge, when people just need to forget the bathroom and **** on their kids?Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:22 amMaybe, you, and others on here, are acting like Bed wetting Pansies?... Has this crossed your mind?
3 games in.......FFS!
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Is it just me or are there a lot of seldom seen names posting on here (usually when things are not going well, so never seen praising when we win a game)
Just thinking aloud
Just thinking aloud
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Really? Can you possibly identify 3 worse teams in this league? At this early stage relegation is more than a possibility. We are this seasons Norwich.Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:22 amMaybe, you, and others on here, are acting like Bed wetting Pansies?... Has this crossed your mind?
3 games in.......FFS!
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Just hope we are not this season's Derby CountyClaretitus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:52 pmReally? Can you possibly identify 3 worse teams in this league? At this early stage relegation is more than a possibility. We are this seasons Norwich.
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An astonishing thread this, an articulate start followed by some really wild stuff.
A post alluding to SD being a fascist is absolutely remarkable, I didn't realise that Eddie falling on his sword would lead to such comments but then i remembered that SD had doubled the south coast hero two seasons running, an absolute hammer blow.
Then we have a post suggesting SD needs to go after 3 defeats as we are 12 points behind the leaders.
Blimey.
A post alluding to SD being a fascist is absolutely remarkable, I didn't realise that Eddie falling on his sword would lead to such comments but then i remembered that SD had doubled the south coast hero two seasons running, an absolute hammer blow.
Then we have a post suggesting SD needs to go after 3 defeats as we are 12 points behind the leaders.
Blimey.
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As with the Laws appointment, imagine what the players are discussing
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Is there a manager who has left Burnley to move on to better things?
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Legally there is a difference between shareholder and directors.
The latter are legally required to take care of the former's (fiduciary) interest.
In this case the two entities are largely the same. So subject to the guidance of the insolvency acts the directors and FD should not continue to trade knowing that their decisions are leading to relegation and financial ruin until it is too late. The shareholders and directors must assess whether the business can operate at a positive cash flow.
Perhaps more importantly to them if the value of their investment falls and is worth eventually nothing, the business is insolvent. Wake up investors
Normally, you directors and shareholders should realise that a relatively small cash injection can reverse the process, and preserve your investment. Sadly you and our small pocketed directors seem unprepared, or under resourced, to provide more cash.
Mike, and the others who sit at the glory table, please be honest with your selves, are you just looking to maximise an investment or are you custodians of BFC, community and the town? Once gone it is gone forever.
Are you blocking short term cash injections to the club?
You need to act quickly. If you don't you should and will lose everything financially and (if you care), enjoy the shame that you will attract and deserve.
A public statement would be helpful and respectful.
The latter are legally required to take care of the former's (fiduciary) interest.
In this case the two entities are largely the same. So subject to the guidance of the insolvency acts the directors and FD should not continue to trade knowing that their decisions are leading to relegation and financial ruin until it is too late. The shareholders and directors must assess whether the business can operate at a positive cash flow.
Perhaps more importantly to them if the value of their investment falls and is worth eventually nothing, the business is insolvent. Wake up investors
Normally, you directors and shareholders should realise that a relatively small cash injection can reverse the process, and preserve your investment. Sadly you and our small pocketed directors seem unprepared, or under resourced, to provide more cash.
Mike, and the others who sit at the glory table, please be honest with your selves, are you just looking to maximise an investment or are you custodians of BFC, community and the town? Once gone it is gone forever.
Are you blocking short term cash injections to the club?
You need to act quickly. If you don't you should and will lose everything financially and (if you care), enjoy the shame that you will attract and deserve.
A public statement would be helpful and respectful.