Great scenes in the streets of Athens today as the (spectator defended) Golden Dawn neo nazi party was branded a criminal organisation by the courts with its leaders facing heavy jail sentences

This bunch of nazis included some big political names and the reaction of the general public out on the streets today signifies what a great day it has been for anti fascism.

I'd hope this news story today pleases everyone but I've got a feeling there's a few low life's on here who'd be more supportive of the GD party than the people who have fought against them

Only low life on here is you

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:11 pm

Great scenes in the streets of Athens today as the (spectator defended) Golden Dawn neo nazi party was branded a criminal organisation by the courts with its leaders facing heavy jail sentences

This bunch of nazis included some big political names and the reaction of the general public out on the streets today signifies what a great day it has been for anti fascism.

I'd hope this news story today pleases everyone but I've got a feeling there's a few low life's on here who'd be more supportive of the GD party than the people who have fought against them

Not many on here lower than you following that last comment. Just who do you think you are?

I can take about an hour on the tower of power as long as I gets a little golden shower.

It’s not often I agree with anything in The Spectator, but this subhead seems pretty accurate to me

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:56 pm

Not many on here lower than you following that last comment. Just who do you think you are?

He's fishing, you bit.

Too easy that
Rod away

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:11 pm

Great scenes in the streets of Athens today as the (spectator defended) Golden Dawn neo nazi party was branded a criminal organisation by the courts with its leaders facing heavy jail sentences

This bunch of nazis included some big political names and the reaction of the general public out on the streets today signifies what a great day it has been for anti fascism.

I'd hope this news story today pleases everyone but I've got a feeling there's a few low life's on here who'd be more supportive of the GD party than the people who have fought against them

Or 99% of the messageboard have never heard of them?

I'm glad it makes you happy.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:11 pm

Great scenes in the streets of Athens today as the (spectator defended) Golden Dawn neo nazi party was branded a criminal organisation by the courts with its leaders facing heavy jail sentences

This bunch of nazis included some big political names and the reaction of the general public out on the streets today signifies what a great day it has been for anti fascism.

I'd hope this news story today pleases everyone but I've got a feeling there's a few low life's on here who'd be more supportive of the GD party than the people who have fought against them

It depends what you consider fighting against.
I'm as anti fascist as most normal people.
But I find the frontline antifa as obnoxious as those they oppose.

Thar she blows Cap'n ...
Man the Harpoon me hearties

Anyone who thinks im trolling/fishing wants to look up the scenes outside the Athens courts today and wants to look at what this neo nazi party was and the damage it did.

It says a lot that the usual suspects are more concerned about having a go at me than showing their support for defeating this nazi sc*m

"As Neo Nazi as UKIP". UKIP are certainly right wing but labelling them as Neo Nazi is when they lose credibility

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:18 pm

Anyone who thinks im trolling/fishing wants to look up the scenes outside the Athens courts today and wants to look at what this neo nazi party was and the damage it did.

It says a lot that the usual suspects are more concerned about having a go at me than showing their support for defeating this nazi sc*m

perhaps your previous on here plays a huge role on that DA

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:45 pm

Too easy that
Rod away

Billy?

Rumbletonk wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:38 pm

"As Neo Nazi as UKIP". UKIP are certainly right wing but labelling them as Neo Nazi is when they lose credibility

whoosh

edit - just to explain for you, the Spectator article was in defence of Golden Dawn. The subhead could just have easily read "Golden Dawn are no more neo-nazi than UKIP".

The original article's been taken off their website today for some reason - can't think why.

For further clarity, I'm not calling UKIP neo-nazis either - it was just a little joke.

claretblue wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:55 pm

Billy?

Billy the Fish perhaps

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:47 pm

perhaps your previous on here plays a huge role on that DA

I really dont know what you are on about

Greenmile wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:57 pm

whoosh

edit - just to explain for you, the Spectator article was in defence of Golden Dawn. The subhead could just have easily read "Golden Dawn are no more neo-nazi than UKIP".

The original article's been taken off their website today for some reason - can't think why.

For further clarity, I'm not calling UKIP neo-nazis either - it was just a little joke.

Righto. I'll shut up

Going to Montana soon, going to be a dental floss tycoon .....massive victory in Athens, but our true blues wouldn’t have the intellect to understand that!

I must admit I loved her in Rowan and Martin's Laugh In and Private Benjamin.

Uniform must have gone to her head!

jackmiggins wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:11 pm

Going to Montana soon, going to be a dental floss tycoon .....

Frank Zappa!

Golden dawn sounds like a margarine brand.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:18 pm

Anyone who thinks im trolling/fishing wants to look up the scenes outside the Athens courts today and wants to look at what this neo nazi party was and the damage it did.

I have just had a look at some information about this organisation on Wiki. They sound to be a bad lot. Often these sort of organisations gain prominence (and even power on occasion) during times of economic hardship.

I am a bit worried about the UK post Covid. There are a number of dangerous 'far right' and 'far left' organisations in the UK. As single entities, non of them look likely to come to power. However, during the last election there were signs that one or more of these organisations had gained a great deal of influence within a major British Party (Labour). This is extremely dangerous. I hope that the moderates within the party can regain control (Kinnock style) because Labour could stand a good chance of coming to power at the next election.

The one form of racism that unites the far right and the far left is anti-semitism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAje_NjRsX8

The dangerous forms of Nazi organisation, the type that gains power do so by uniting the extremist factions. They are often Nationalistic, Extremely Left wing economically (Nationalisation etc.), racist and in particular anti-semitic. Labour are not a Nazi organisation but there have been some worrying signs that they were heading in that direction up until the last election. Certainly in their extreme left wing economic policies and many charges of anti-semitism within the party.

It was amazing that in 2018 Nick Griffin (former leader of the BNP) and David Duke (former wizard of the Klu Klux Klan) had praised some of Jeremy Corbyn's views. Two members of the Labour government quit the party over anti-semitism in the run up to the last election. There is also an investigation into Labour by the 'Equality and Human Rights Commission' into allegations of antisemitism. https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en ... bour-party

Former Islington mayor quits Labour party over racism
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... er-racism

The UK’s first hijab-wearing mayor has resigned from the Labour party citing racism and a “system that allows white men to have what they want, when they want”.

Somalia-born Rakhia Ismail said she had stepped down because she felt she was marginalised as a woman of colour and was not taken seriously by some male colleagues.

After leaving her ceremonial post as mayor of Islington, north London, late last month Ismail has informed Labour members of Holloway Ward that she is resigning as councillor after eight years.

She said: “I’m saddened deeply that the party I thought was for justice and fairness and ‘for the many’ is the opposite, from my personal experience.

“Therefore, I find it hard to represent Holloway Ward as a Labour councillor because I was battling with a party system that simply allows white men to have what they want, when they want.” The Guardian

https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news ... -1-6862856

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:18 pm

Anyone who thinks im trolling/fishing wants to look up the scenes outside the Athens courts today and wants to look at what this neo nazi party was and the damage it did.

It says a lot that the usual suspects are more concerned about having a go at me than showing their support for defeating this nazi sc*m

Oh look at me I need attention. Pathetic.

A decent netful there, DA.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:59 pm

A decent netful there, DA.

Not really Eddie,a poor effort from him as most of them were taking the Mickey. He needs to try much harder .

Leisure wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:31 pm

Frank Zappa!

As was my golden shower line. Hey there people I'm Bobby Brown ...

UnderSeige wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:04 am

Former Islington mayor quits Labour party over racism
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... er-racism



https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news ... -1-6862856

Or maybe she was crap at being a councillor. (semi joking)

Most Labour councillors at all levels face struggles to retain their candidacy after each 4 year cycle, particularly if it is a 'safe' seat. I, as a white male, was challenged twice by other Labour members and had the ignominy of being deselected as the candidate by my local party whilst being Chair of Policy at my Council. Membership changes gave the other person a majority in the local branch. I felt half (personal) vindicated when the Tories took back the seat and the Council though the other (political) half was devastated by the loss.

Still not sure what's fishing about highlighting a good news story about a Neo Nazi party getting smashed by the Greek courts and Greek people.

Says a lot more about you lot and this site than it does about me when posting a positive news story about anti facism winning over nazi sc*m is seen to be trolling and baiting material.

So if I am trying get a reaction then tell me who I am going to upset by celebrating this story cos they only people I can think would get up set are either nazi supporters or sympathisers and if more people are on that side attacking me rather than my side happy about the story then god help us

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:33 pm

Still not sure what's fishing about highlighting a good news story about a Neo Nazi party getting smashed by the Greek courts and Greek people.

Says a lot more about you lot and this site than it does about me when posting a positive news story about anti facism winning over nazi sc*m is seen to be trolling and baiting material.

So if I am trying get a reaction then tell me who I am going to upset by celebrating this story cos they only people I can think would get up set are either nazi supporters or sympathisers and if more people are on that side attacking me rather than my side happy about the story then god help us

I’m sure if you posted in a more conciliatory and less antagonistic and judgemental manner you would have a more sympathetic response.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:33 pm

Still not sure what's fishing about highlighting a good news story about a Neo Nazi party getting smashed by the Greek courts and Greek people.

Says a lot more about you lot and this site than it does about me when posting a positive news story about anti facism winning over nazi sc*m is seen to be trolling and baiting material.

So if I am trying get a reaction then tell me who I am going to upset by celebrating this story cos they only people I can think would get up set are either nazi supporters or sympathisers and if more people are on that side attacking me rather than my side happy about the story then god help us

Ah diddums.Have you been upset.

I didn't ask for a sympathetic response, I just posted what I thought was an interesting and positive news story and one that should unite us all.

The responses and the way the thread has gone is very telling

conyoviejo wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:01 pm

Ah diddums.Have you been upset.

No, I couldn't care less what people like you think but I'm happy to keep hammering home the point that it seems others have got upset and had to have a go at me because I simply celebrated a victory against facism

It's very said but I ain't letting it upset me. Whilst you seem to want to engage me what do you think of the scenes in Athens last week. If you haven't seen them look them up and tell me they don't warm your heart

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:33 pm

Still not sure what's fishing about highlighting a good news story about a Neo Nazi party getting smashed by the Greek courts and Greek people.

Says a lot more about you lot and this site than it does about me when posting a positive news story about anti facism winning over nazi sc*m is seen to be trolling and baiting material.

So if I am trying get a reaction then tell me who I am going to upset by celebrating this story cos they only people I can think would get up set are either nazi supporters or sympathisers and if more people are on that side attacking me rather than my side happy about the story then god help us

I can't see that posting this news story is trolling. I don't think that I would have been aware of it had you not posted it.

All forms of racism are evil and despicable. Racism dehumanises and scapegoats the victims. Whether it is racism in football, far right groups, anti-semitism in the Labour party; racism in the workplace, in the police force and all other forms of racism.

There is currently an investigation into Labour by the 'Equality and Human Rights Commission' into allegations on antisemitism as well as Labour having their own internal investigation. Three conservative MP's are also being investigated by their own party. https://www.politicshome.com/news/artic ... tisemitism. These are by far the most worrying forms of racism since, they could lead to racism becoming institutionalised (1930's Germany is a good example). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAje_NjRsX8


I am not sure how trolling and fishing got into this discussion but I believe that Web trolling and deprecating people on web forums is also evil and despicable. Like racism it dehumanises and scapegoats the victims. It is generally aimed at making people feel bad about themselves - like racism. It has also resulted in creating mental illness in some vulnerable victims. https://techcurruoit.wordpress.com/2017 ... overridden.