I'm hoping to see Mr Lowton back tonight, with potentially Mr Mee on the bench?
Who will partner Wood up front?
I think we will start to see JBG come back into form over the next few games, if he can avoid injury!


Pope
Lowts Tarks Long Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood DM
Wood Jay

Pope
Peters Long Mee Taylor
Brownhil Stevens Westwood McNiel
Rodriguez Vydra

Swap tarks for Mee if Mee isn't fit. Doesn't want to be here can see another Gibson situation in January

Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:58 am

Pope
Peters Long Mee Taylor
Brownhil Stevens Westwood McNiel
Rodriguez Vydra

Swap tarks for Mee if Mee isn't fit. Doesn't want to be here can see another Gibson situation in January

Surely on the wind up

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:16 pm

Surely on the wind up

Did you see his performance in the last game?

I hope this isn't one of those games where our manager just blindly plays a 4-4-2 (because that's what we do) and it ends up being a routine defeat due to that. I've witnessed so many games against the likes of Man City,Chelsea etc where we 'try and affect the game' by playing 2 up front who end up being ineffective and leaving us short and over-run in the middle of the pitch.

I'm a huge fan of our manager but it leaves me very frustrated when we play the better teams that we seemingly sleep walk into another routine defeat.

Id be amazed if 5 of that 11 start, certainly 4.

I didn't think Tarky played badly against WBA?

I'll be surprised if Lowton or Mee start. I hope they do, but I'll be surprised.

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:19 pm

I hope this isn't one of those games where our manager just blindly plays a 4-4-2 (because that's what we do) and it ends up being a routine defeat due to that. I've witnessed so many games against the likes of Man City,Chelsea etc where we 'try and affect the game' by playing 2 up front who end up being ineffective and leaving us short and over-run in the middle of the pitch.

I'm a huge fan of our manager but it leaves me very frustrated when we play the better teams that we seemingly sleep walk into another routine defeat.

I understand where you are coming from with some of your points, We have little choice though with what we have. I personally would prefer Jay or Vydra alongside Wood as they make us play a little rather than 'the long ball forward and hope to win the second balls'.

Better with just one up top when we play these games and pack the midfield

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:19 pm

I hope this isn't one of those games where our manager just blindly plays a 4-4-2 (because that's what we do) and it ends up being a routine defeat due to that. I've witnessed so many games against the likes of Man City,Chelsea etc where we 'try and affect the game' by playing 2 up front who end up being ineffective and leaving us short and over-run in the middle of the pitch.

I'm a huge fan of our manager but it leaves me very frustrated when we play the better teams that we seemingly sleep walk into another routine defeat.

I think this is exactly what we will do. How many times do we surprise the opposition ?

I need either tarks son or kane NOT to play
Cant see it

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:29 pm

I need either tarks son or kane NOT to play
Cant see it

FPL?

Would love to see Dyche try something other than 4-4-2 against these teams. Would not even object to 5-4-1, with three at the back. Park the bus and try & keep the score respectable. With a bit of luck, might be in it with 15 minutes to go, then change it around.

A 4-4-1-1 with Jay-Wood would be my thinking. Allow Jay to drop back.

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:24 pm

I understand where you are coming from with some of your points, We have little choice though with what we have. I personally would prefer Jay or Vydra alongside Wood as they make us play a little rather than 'the long ball forward and hope to win the second balls'.

There are other options to a flat 4-4-2.... bring Stephens in to sit in front of the back 4 with Westy and Brownhill in front of him, bring Dwight infield as a no 10 or standard CM and put Brady or Jay Rod on the left (Jay Rod played his best football for Saints as an attacker from the left), play a diamond midfield rather than a flat 4 - let them have the wide areas. I'm just saying it would be a positive step if we tried something a bit different against the better teams. Of course, I hope I'm completely wrong and we win the game playing the 4-4-2 that we undoubtedly will.

I think we might see Rodriguez in for Barnes tonight.

With Lowton looking like the obvious change at full back as well.

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:53 am

I'm hoping to see Mr Lowton back tonight, with potentially Mr Mee on the bench?

Only just started training. Sean Dyche has already said they will need to arrange a pre-season for him and then some u23 games. I can't see how he can be anywhere near the bench tonight.

A bit of a dilemma if we've no recognised RB or Pieters to cover. Could move Long to RB and bring Dunne in I suppose.

Murger wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:50 pm

A bit of a dilemma if we've no recognised RB or Pieters to cover. Could move Long to RB and bring Dunne in I suppose.

The prospect of Long at right back up against Son's movement is terrifying. Has to be a better option than that.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:52 pm

The prospect of Long at right back up against Son's movement is terrifying. Has to be a better option than that.

Not sure there's many other options - Tarky has played well for us at RB before, but that makes our central defence like a sieve, if Mee isn't available.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:52 pm

The prospect of Long at right back up against Son's movement is terrifying. Has to be a better option than that.

Such as?

Murger wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:50 pm

A bit of a dilemma if we've no recognised RB or Pieters to cover. Could move Long to RB and bring Dunne in I suppose.

Believe Lowton is fit but that's giving me nightmares after the away game against them last season. I think that's probably the worst game I've seen him have for us.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:59 pm

Believe Lowton is fit but that's giving me nightmares after the away game against them last season. I think that's probably the worst game I've seen him have for us.

But if SD said he needs a pre-season + U23 games, like you said further up, does it mean they may have to risk him?

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:00 pm

But if SD said he needs a pre-season + U23 games, like you said further up, does it mean they may have to risk him?

Dyche won't play him until he's fit. He's not even there yet in terms of fitness, according to Dyche who said he would be given a pre-season first which would presumably include a couple of u23 games. We won't be risking him after recovering from a major tear.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:52 pm

The prospect of Long at right back up against Son's movement is terrifying. Has to be a better option than that.

I've cleaned me boots, took some Phyllosan, charged up the pacemaker and the wife has made sure the will is in order

Off to catch the bus now

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:34 pm

I think we might see Rodriguez in for Barnes tonight.

With Lowton looking like the obvious change at full back as well.

I suspect he'll play Barnes as he manages to win us free kicks up the pitch, let's face it, we wont see much of the ball so we will play for set pieces

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:31 pm

FPL?

I have bamford 2nd sub

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:52 pm

The prospect of Long at right back up against Son's movement is terrifying. Has to be a better option than that.

Oh I agree, just can't think of what else he can do.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:08 pm

Dyche won't play him until he's fit. He's not even there yet in terms of fitness, according to Dyche who said he would be given a pre-season first which would presumably include a couple of u23 games. We won't be risking him after recovering from a major tear.

Who would you select at right back then Tony?

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:18 pm

I have bamford 2nd sub

Yeah, but you're wanting Tarky out, so you get extra points?

3 at the back with Brownhill and Taylor as wingbacks?

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:21 pm

Yeah, but you're wanting Tarky out, so you get extra points?

Tarkys my no1 sub
Willian didnt play
He slots in 1st does tarky

ralphc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:20 pm

Who would you select at right back then Tony?

If everyone is fit and available I'd play Bardsley but I think it will be Lowton tonight.

When can we expect Bardsley back? Any word on that? I always just assume when a footballer has tested positive they'll just make a swift recovery, but it may not always be like that.

I think Dyche will keep exactly the same starting 11 as last time. He will have liked how we defended which means Pieters starting

Only possible change is Lowton instead of Pieters, but Lowton had an absolute shocker at Spurs when we were trounced 5-0

I just hope that Son doesn't score in the first 90 seconds

Outside of that hoping for a good game and a positive performance and result.

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:33 pm

Tarkys my no1 sub
Willian didnt play
He slots in 1st does tarky

But Tarky playing is surely better for you than a few points on a fantasy game.

Spurs on a nine match unbeaten run, highest scorers in the league and have the return of Gareth Bale, one of the best players in the world.

Don’t think we’ll have a problem

Might aswell just play 6 at the back and 4 up front as we miss out the midfield anyway.

Prob team
Pope
Lowton Long Tarks Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Barnes

Alt team

Pope

Long Tarks Pieters

Brady Brownhill McNeil Westwood Taylor

Wood Barnes

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:25 pm

Spurs on a nine match unbeaten run, highest scorers in the league and have the return of Gareth Bale, one of the best players in the world.

Don’t think we’ll have a problem

Should be a walk in the park

Might regret this after twenty minutes as they are a good side on their day but the last two games against them at the Turf have been 2-1 and 1-1.
Confident we can make it three good results on the bounce against them.

Please just not another 90 min of hoof ball

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:52 pm

The prospect of Long at right back up against Son's movement is terrifying. Has to be a better option than that.

Son against Wan-Bissaka, Bailly, Maguire and Shaw was a bit terrifying and I'm sure you would have any of those at Burnley

Assuming he gets on the pitch, will Bale be the most expensive player ever to play on the Turf?

So Lowton is fit but not fit so won't be near the bench but is starting?

Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:46 pm

So Lowton is fit but not fit so won't be near the bench but is starting?

It seems that's the case.

buzzclarets79 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:40 pm

Please just not another 90 min of hoof ball

According to CT we don't play hoofball

Re: 5 in midfield
Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:35 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:19 pm
"Lowton for Peiters may be a personnel change but doubt any others
Presume 4-4-2 hoofball will be the norm"

CT replies
Here we go - if you think we play hoofball then can I suggest your really don't have a clue.

I just hope we put in another decent performance after a decent showing against West Brommers

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:54 pm

According to CT we don't play hoofball

Re: 5 in midfield
Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:35 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:19 pm
"Lowton for Peiters may be a personnel change but doubt any others
Presume 4-4-2 hoofball will be the norm"

CT replies
Here we go - if you think we play hoofball then can I suggest your really don't have a clue.

According to CT Lowton wont be near the bench but he will start? I could suggest he doesn't have a clue also