tim_noone wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:57 pm

You need to get out more....is my advice

Dyched wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:02 pm

What type of photographers do you like CFC? Research what lenses and such they use etc.

I do quite a bit. Mostly on film though tbh and I’m not much up to date of gear.

Mostly I use a 50mm lens but also 35mm (wider). 50mm (I think) someone will correct me is what your eyes basically see.

Things like iso, the lower iso the slower the shutter. F stops etc, the lower the number the more light the lense lets in. So say F16 would ideal on a brightly sunny scene, where as for a darker scene in deep shadows/inside F4 would be better. But that also deepens on what iso your shooting with.

Best bet, find a scene up Towneley. Shoot it at what the camera tells you to. Then play around with the iso, F stops etc and see how they can change the image.

If you like everyday street photography check out Joel Meyerowitz, Cartier Bresson, Garry Winogrand.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:02 pm

What type of photographers do you like CFC? Research what lenses and such they use etc.

I do quite a bit. Mostly on film though tbh and I’m not much up to date of gear.

Mostly I use a 50mm lens but also 35mm (wider). 50mm (I think) someone will correct me is what your eyes basically see.

Things like iso, the lower iso the slower the shutter. F stops etc, the lower the number the more light the lense lets in. So say F16 would ideal on a brightly sunny scene, where as for a darker scene in deep shadows/inside F4 would be better. But that also deepens on what iso your shooting with.

Best bet, find a scene up Towneley. Shoot it at what the camera tells you to. Then play around with the iso, F stops etc and see how they can change the image.

If you like everyday street photography check out Joel Meyerowitz, Cartier Bresson, Garry Winogrand.

bennitor wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:04 pm

Not sure re: Olympus lenses but get the best prime lens that reviews for your particular brand suggest and for whatever your budget is. You can pick up excellent prime lenses for Canon and Nikon for around 100 quid so I'm guessing it would be similar.

Then use your feet to zoom

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:15 pm

My good friend ONLY uses film. Refuses to entertain digital. I might start calling him kodak

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:11 pm

Thats part of the problem these days.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:22 pm

Shooting films a different thing tbh. A lot of people who use it are against digital for some reason. I enjoy both equally as much. Film kinda slows you down in what your doing a bit and gets you out if the habit if just shooting for the sake of it. To me it’s what vinyl is to spotify. Both great, both have there pluses and minuses.

bennitor wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:28 pm

I think that's why I stuck with Nikon - partly laziness and comfort but also the wide range of lenses and access to third party equipment.

I owned a fisheye which was fun but largely a novelty. For Nikon DX system I've used the 17-55 f.2.8 lens quite a bit. It's heavy but has balance between zoom and being able to stop down quite low. Of course it's not as good with depth of field as a dedicated prime or zoom as with a dedicated zoom but if you want one lens for street photography something like that would be reasonable cost and you would be able to open it up quite wide.

Again not sure of Olympus equivalent!

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:42 pm

What are you on about...? I thought you went to Lulworth Cove and Durdle Door the other day...?

Has that area gone into tier 2 yet with you northerners spreading Covid around freely

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:48 pm

No better places to start than here : https://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php

and then follow up on youtube, some amazing channels

HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:50 pm

@ cricketfieldclarets

What's your budget?

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:34 pm

Join Burnley Camera Club. Sounds a bit old hat but the guys there will definitely improve you.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:06 am

Thanks. Friend of mine (used to run hayhursts with his dad in Nelson) is setting something up via Burnley library soon.

CombatClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:59 am

My first DSLR was the Canon 550d, you can pick one up used with the kit lens for £200
Photos I took with it still sell very well on stock sites next to the photos I took with a camera ten times the cost.

Don't bother buying something too expensive until you've reached the very limits of what you already have. And lenses open make more difference than bodies. Canon & Nikkon offer more choice & lower prices due to all the third party manufacturers and the large second hand market.

The Enclosure wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:04 am

Composition is one of key things to a good photograph and that can be achieved with any half decent camera.
The photo i took below won a competition run by Lancashire Life a few years ago.
Not the greatest photograph but someone must have liked it.
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The title of the photo was "Country lane with view of Stoodley Pike"

Dyched wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:04 pm

Search the camera on google, there’s a load of articles on lenses etc. Search it on flickr too. People normally post what settings they’ve used and lenses.

Imo, a 25mm would be ideal for what you want. I wouldn’t bother with any zoom. 25mm would allow you to get close and get a wide angle.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:54 pm

As are a few on here, have a keen interest in pictures. All self taught though with no 'proper' training.

(Did originally plan to do photography at college but after our first session our tutor broke his leg and never returned. I think that was a made up story after his first impression of our class!)

Most of the time I use my phone. Easier. Quicker. Less intrusive, particularly when taking street photos. Looking for some advice on lenses. Most of the stuff I like to take is street scenes. especially urban. street art. every day 'things'. Street art. But also natural environments. Day and night.

Not too bothered for motion per se (nature, sport).

My main camera is the OLYMPUS OM-D E-M10 Mark III. But as above don't use it half as much as I should. In the process of teaching myself how to use that and become more adept at the settings and options.

ALP wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:39 pm

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You can guess I do a bit of photography from my posts, that Olympus is a superb little camera and a great base to learn from. When you say you are teaching yourself the settings, in what way are you doing this?

What mode are you shooting in (mainly)? To learn you need to take control, don't let the camera be the boss, get the camera into Manual and understanding exposure. Learn the exposure triangle, which is easy. ISO, Aperture, Shutter speed. Then start to understand light, i.e. highlights and shadows where in the digital index 0 is true black and 255 is true white. Start to understand these and you will soon grasp photography.

Shoot RAW and get a good editing programme, I use photoshop CC but there are others out there i.e. Capture 1 which a lot of pro's are going to now, there is also DXO labs and many more. But if you shoot RAW and have a good programme to edit, you can push shadows and pull highlights all over the place, just avoid burning out the highlights, as a chap told me when I was learning 'it's easier to put the lights on than it is to turn em off'. That makes a lot of sense when you realise you've clipped all your highlights and can't get them back.

Hope that helps a little.

Andy

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 pm

You say you want to do street photography so I think you need a lens between 28 to 35mm. That is if you like getting up close to the people you are photographing.

There is another group of street photographers who snap people from a distance, so they would suggest 100-200mm lens range.

But the best street photographers get close to their subjects. I know a few...

Dougie Wallace, possibly the best uk street photographer.
Peter Dench...lots of humour in his documentary work.
Homer Sykes...still capturing British society.
Martin Parr.

If you want really edgy / controversial stuff....Bruce Gilden. To me it’s borderline cruel.

I’ve tried using lens wider than 20mm but it distorts people too much. 50mm is too ordinary.

A lot of good street photography is done on small fixed lens cameras. Very easy to be discreet.

My point is....know what style of photography you want to do and then you will know what lens you need.

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 pm

You say you want to do street photography so I think you need a lens between 28 to 35mm. That is if you like getting up close to the people you are photographing.

There is another group of street photographers who snap people from a distance, so they would suggest 100-200mm lens range.

But the best street photographers get close to their subjects. I know a few...

Dougie Wallace, possibly the best uk street photographer.
Peter Dench...lots of humour in his documentary work.
Homer Sykes...still capturing British society.
Martin Parr.

If you want really edgy / controversial stuff....Bruce Gilden. To me it’s borderline cruel.

I’ve tried using lens wider than 20mm but it distorts people too much. 50mm is too ordinary.

A lot of good street photography is done on small fixed lens cameras. Very easy to be discreet.

My point is....know what style of photography you want to do and then you will know what lens you need.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:28 pm

Never heard of Dougie Wallace, had a quick google. Fantastic, reminds me of Joel Meyerowitz.

I love photographs what a beautiful in the ordinary way rather than finding a “beautiful” scene.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:43 pm

Few more.

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:24 pm

Nice shots!

Do you follow lots of street photographers on Instagram?

My advice is...find the style of photo you want to take and that will determine the lens you need.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:19 pm

Thanks Andy. Yes I’m happy with it.

I’ve been teaching myself through trial and error and via online. Tutorials etc. And watched tonnes of videos on the triangle but still trying to get to grips with it.

I use lightrooms. I always used to think editing was ‘cheating’ but having said that no matter what you do it never looks as good as it did in your head.

I’m going to look at some formal training. That’s what I signed up for when I left school but as first post after one lesson the class ended and I never revisited.

I only shoot in manual now. Annoying sometimes as you lose a good shot that auto would’ve got. But then you learn nothing In Auto. I saw a great image the other day but the exposure was totally wrong. But I guess that’s how you learn eh?

Here are a few I’ve taken recently that I’m reasonably happy with.

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:21 pm

If you have a look, I think there is a video programme of Dougie in Blackpool.

ALP wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:31 pm

Dougie Wallace is awesome, he really doesn't give a hoot what people think. I remember watching him on TV and a woman was shouting that she was going to ring the police over him taking her photo, he retorted 'Aye, I'll gie you the number, it's 999' and walked off. He really does get in peoples faces; no chance I could do what he does on the street.

A real inspirational photographer for me was when I found the work of Vivian Maier, her work with a camera is awesome, her work only came to light after she passed away.

Website linked: http://www.vivianmaier.com