January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Newcastleclaret93]

Bardsley is 36 in the summer, Lowton 32.There comes a point where younger players are needed.

True but they will both do a job for another season. Think we need to prioritise a number of different areas.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Upgrades on right back and right wing are both needed to make us stronger. That’s half of the puzzle solved if Kenny is a success , providing he signs of course

[Pearcey]

True but they will both do a job for another season. Think we need to prioritise a number of different areas.

I’d like to see a better attacking right back to be honest. To have someone similar to Charlie would be fantastic.

[Boss Hogg]

4 full days left including the weekend. Hope we are beyond the ‘making enquiries’ stage.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’d like to see a better attacking right back to be honest. To have someone similar to Charlie would be fantastic.

To be fair to Lowton he is just as attacking as Taylor.

[Iloveyoubrady]

To be fair to Lowton he is just as attacking as Taylor.

No he’s not

[joey13]

To be fair to Lowton he is just as attacking as Taylor.

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[Newcastleclaret93]

No he’s not

He really is. Taylor gets up the pitch but rarely produces. Dyche even alluded to it when he got an assist the other game.

Lowton 115 Apps in the prem - 0 goal - 6 assists
Taylor 89 apps in prem - 0 goals - 3 assists

Both decent players think when are both fit they don’t desperately need improving.

Where as I think a RM, CM, Striker and possibly CB are a bigger priority in my opinion

[SalisburyClaret]

To be fair to Lowton he is just as attacking as Taylor.

To be fair, Lowton is ahead of Taylor in providing assists so you could argue he is more attacking than Taylor. Especially as he’s not been blessed with great help on the right wing

[taio]

Centre half is biggest priority

[Dark Cloud]

I think something you have to factor in when thinking about Kenny is that the lad isn't really playing and he must be desperate to get some footy. So surely he himself (and his agent) will be putting pressure on Everton to come up with a sensible/acceptable price (or loan arrangement) and get him out of there. Collins is different because he IS playing and so he may well be more prepared to leave it up to the club at this stage

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’m still adamant RM or CM has to be the priority this window

[agreenwood]

Not massively bothered if we sign anyone this window or not.

We seem to be after players with an eye to future seasons rather than this, so it can probably wait until the summer. Dyche seems fairly relaxed.

[taio]

I’m still adamant RM or CM has to be the priority this window

Centre half well above Centre mid in my view given Tarkowski very likely to leave in the summer and we have better cover in CM than CB right now. Tarkowski and/or Mee get injured...well remember early on this season.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Centre half well above Centre mid in my view given Tarkowski very likely to leave in the summer and we have better cover in CM than CB right now. Tarkowski and/or Mee get injured...well remember early on this season.

Totally agree, I just look at how poorly we have performed in league without Cork this season and just think it’s an urgent position.

[taio]

Totally agree, I just look at how poorly we have performed in league without Cork this season and just think it’s an urgent position.

I rate Cork highly but I'd rather be without him than Tarkowski or Mee because we have better CM cover. I don't agree we've been poor in the league.

[Rileybobs]

If Tarks is going to be allowed to leave in summer then getting his replacement in now would really have been a huge benefit to get him working within our structure.

As we tend to make any signings towards the very end of the window it’s quite likely that we’ll be starting next season with Mee and Long.

[randomclaret2]

Our poorest performances were right at the start of the season when Mee and/or Tarkowski were missing

[mill hill claret]

After alan pace's programme notes last night I'm not holding my breathe for any signings this window .

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Lingard to West Ham on loan confirmed.

Someone in 5live just described him as good young attacking winger though

[randomclaret2]

Lingard to West Ham on loan confirmed.

Someone in 5live just described him as good young attacking winger though

Same age as Phil Jones

[NewClaret]

4 full days left including the weekend. Hope we are beyond the ‘making enquiries’ stage.

So would I. Having never negotiated a Premier League transfer, I assumed these discussions could/should be taking place before the window opened and then finalised.

Was quite surprised when Dyche said that we have to remain “flexible to opportunities that arise” at the presser the other day - all sounds much more reactive than I thought.

Hope our recent results makes us more attractive to the quality players looking for a loan move.

[NewClaret]

Lingard to West Ham on loan confirmed.

Decent move for him given their league position.

[jojomk1]

Hope our recent results makes us more attractive to the quality players looking for a loan move.

Thank god we play City after the window shuts

Usually the "quality" players are not looking for loan moves

But agree it would have been nice to get a decent wide right player in this month

[NewClaret]

Thank god we play City after the window shuts

Usually the "quality" players are not looking for loan moves

But agree it would have been nice to get a decent wide right player in this month

I’d call Lingard decent. Assume a few others might be available from United too!

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

So would I. Having never negotiated a Premier League transfer, I assumed these discussions could/should be taking place before the window opened and then finalised.

Was quite surprised when Dyche said that we have to remain “flexible to opportunities that arise” at the presser the other day - all sounds much more reactive than I thought.

Hope our recent results makes us more attractive to the quality players looking for a loan move.

Dyche has explained this many times in interviews. We have our list of targets and people we feel can improve us, quite often teams won't let them go without replacements, unless its for a silly fee (Which we will never pay). That means were left waiting until the so called 'domino' reaction happens. When one player moves and it sets off 3 or 4 deals. Thats the way it is for us and the way it will always be. The only other way we can get a target is if they are genuinely surplus to requirements at another club and completely unwanted.

[Vegas Claret]

Dyche has explained this many times in interviews. We have our list of targets and people we feel can improve us, quite often teams won't let them go without replacements, unless its for a silly fee (Which we will never pay). That means were left waiting until the so called 'domino' reaction happens. When one player moves and it sets off 3 or 4 deals. Thats the way it is for us and the way it will always be. The only other way we can get a target is if they are genuinely surplus to requirements at another club and completely unwanted.

no it's not, we will surely just try to continue improving our scouting system around the world - sure, it's a long term project but will pay dividends I'm sure

[Quicknick]

Not massively bothered if we sign anyone this window or not.

We seem to be after players with an eye to future seasons rather than this, so it can probably wait until the summer. Dyche seems fairly relaxed.

If Mee and/or Tarkowski got injured, we could be relegated. We need to sign a centre half.

[jojomk1]

no it's not, we will surely just try to continue improving our scouting system around the world - sure, it's a long term project but will pay dividends I'm sure

For how many years now have we been hearing "we have to improve our scouting system around the world"

How long does a "long term project" take ?

[Vegas Claret]

For how many years now have we been hearing "we have to improve our scouting system around the world"

How long does a "long term project" take ?

I don't know, but I would imagine our worldwide scouting started from a very weak position. It's clear the investment was made at Barnfield and I would expect the scouting to improve, but I agree in terms of how long is that piece of string. Pretty obvious the transfer fee's are unsustainable for most clubs never mind us so we have to find another way and that has to be through the scouting network.

[burnley007]

For how many years now have we been hearing "we have to improve our scouting system around the world"

How long does a "long term project" take ?

Brexit has massively affected European transfers. Another harsh reality of this whole Brexit nightmare.

[arise_sir_charge]

Brexit has massively affected European transfers. Another harsh reality of this whole Brexit nightmare.

Has it really? Not seen any evidence to suggest that’s the case yet.

[arise_sir_charge]

Has it really? Not seen any evidence to suggest that’s the case yet.

In fact, of the completed transfers, the majority are from Europe.

[NewClaret]

Dyche has explained this many times in interviews. We have our list of targets and people we feel can improve us, quite often teams won't let them go without replacements, unless its for a silly fee (Which we will never pay). That means were left waiting until the so called 'domino' reaction happens. When one player moves and it sets off 3 or 4 deals. Thats the way it is for us and the way it will always be. The only other way we can get a target is if they are genuinely surplus to requirements at another club and completely unwanted.

Good points. In some respects, if we’re not buying because the players we think will fit in and genuinely improve us are not available, you have to see that as a sign of progress that the level of the overall squad has improved.

And to your last point, presumably even unwanted players are not positioned as such by their clubs, in order to get the best deal!

[NewClaret]

In fact, of the completed transfers, the majority are from Europe.

So nothing to do with brexit at all. Another myth.

Covid most likely the biggest factor this year. Window basically shut for Wolves since people arriving from Portugal have to quarantine!

[Newcastleclaret93]

So nothing to do with brexit at all. Another myth.

Covid most likely the biggest factor this year. Window basically shut for Wolves since people arriving from Portugal have to quarantine!

3 days left to do some business. Think we might be following wolves.

[claretonthecoast1882]

3 days left to do some business. Think we might be following wolves.

Technically there are 4 days left including Monday, thank god it will all be over soon.

[AfloatinClaret]

A suggestion this morning that Liverpool might need to sign a new centre back this week; hopefully they're not looking in our direction.

[Zlatan]

A suggestion this morning that Liverpool might need to sign a new centre back this week; hopefully they're not looking in our direction.

I'd argue that hopefully they are... and they have to pay over the odds for him. It will just bring forward the inevitable scenario and enable us to get some money in for our own transfers

I never though we'd get £50M for Ben Mee, but that's who they need

[boatshed bill]

Collins' valuation seems to be going up.

[MACCA]

Theyll be some clubs twitching now, who will buckle first the seller or the buyer, once it starts the dominos in the line will also fall...

[fatboy47]

Theyll be some clubs twitching now, who will buckle first the seller or the buyer, once it starts the dominos in the line will also fall...

All in the timing...most of the talk of "" money available"" and "need to strengthen" from over the New Year period has vanished as the threat of relegation has eased.
I'd be pleased but surprised to see us strengthen the starting 11.
Of more interest would be the club's reaction to a bid for Tarkowski, McNeil or Pope...or Dyches reaction to a vacancy arising at an underperforming club with a genuinely wealthy owner, as opposed to one with a large debt to service.

[dansch]

I wouldn't mind us enquiring about Maitland-Niles, would be perfect on the right for us as he's played RB as well but is naturally a winger. He's wanting to go on loan and supposedlt several clubs have enquired. They're also looking to loan Reiss Nelson who is another RM that could potentially do a job.

[burnley007]

Has it really? Not seen any evidence to suggest that’s the case yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55803504

this

[Woodleyclaret]

Our history on loan signings from London clubs is not great We have brought media bigged up players like Chalobah,Bamford.Drinkwater all bombed
Loftus Cheek hasn't exactly pulled up any trees at Fulham and Naitlan-Miles exhibits cba when playing at Arsenal
Personally re loans I would enquire about Shakiri or Minamina at Liverpool

[boatshed bill]

Our history on loan signings from London clubs is not great We have brought media bigged up players like Chalobah,Bamford.Drinkwater all bombed
Loftus Cheek hasn't exactly pulled up any trees at Fulham and Naitlan-Miles exhibits cba when playing at Arsenal
Personally re loans I would enquire about Shakiri or Minamina at Liverpool

I doubt if Kloppy is speaking to Sean

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Brexit has affected the market. It is stricter criteria before you can come into the UK now. This won’t affect the top clubs as they sign senior internationals. The market we deal in this will affect us.

[dansch]

Our history on loan signings from London clubs is not great We have brought media bigged up players like Chalobah,Bamford.Drinkwater all bombed
Loftus Cheek hasn't exactly pulled up any trees at Fulham and Naitlan-Miles exhibits cba when playing at Arsenal
Personally re loans I would enquire about Shakiri or Minamina at Liverpool

I agree that our history of utilising loans, particularly from London clubs, is pretty shocking. I do think Maitland-Niles would be a really good fit though, especially in Dyche's system. He's hardly done sweet FA at Arsenal either having broken into the England squad last year.

[Firthy]

I really believe that with our last two results and players returning from injury that we won't be signing or selling any players this window.

[Steddyman]

Dyche has explained this many times in interviews. We have our list of targets and people we feel can improve us, quite often teams won't let them go without replacements, unless its for a silly fee (Which we will never pay). That means were left waiting until the so called 'domino' reaction happens. When one player moves and it sets off 3 or 4 deals. Thats the way it is for us and the way it will always be. The only other way we can get a target is if they are genuinely surplus to requirements at another club and completely unwanted.

Is nobody else as surprised as me that so FEW players in the world can improve our squad?