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January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by clarethomer » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:20 pm

We are a few weeks away from the window opening.

I have seen from the takeover thread that Phil Jones is suggested to be a claret.

I know there have been rumours about young 20 year old striker - Tyrese Campbell from Stoke.

In hope we can have a thread that keeps all transfer links, rumours and discussions together, it will reduce other threads being bloated.

Are there any other rumours/links?
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:22 pm

My prediction :-

Incomings - 0
Outgoings - 0

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by MrTopTier » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:29 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:22 pm
My prediction :-

Incomings - 0
Outgoings - 0
That’s the spirit Dom, classic UTC first post reply.
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Post by clarethomer » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:29 pm

At least you can't be disappointed.

There appears to be confidence in signings though so you could be pleasantly surprised.
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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 pm

The Jones story in the last window seemed to part of a deal with Tarkowski going the other way. Don’t know how much there was in it but that window turned into a farce because of the stand off between chairman and manager.

I believe there will be signings in January.
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Post by Rileybobs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:35 pm

Stephens should be fit soon, he’ll be like a new signing. We just need a couple of young players to add a bit of depth to the U23’s.
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:29 pm
That’s the spirit Dom, classic UTC first post reply.
Just being realistic mate based on the last 3/4/5 transfer windows if not longer. We've been in far better positions than this and not strengthend, for example when we were in the Europa league. Of course I hope I'm wrong though Mr TT 👍

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Post by clarethomer » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 pm
The Jones story in the last window seemed to part of a deal with Tarkowski going the other way. Don’t know how much there was in it but that window turned into a farce because of the stand off between chairman and manager.

I believe there will be signings in January.
Do you think Tarks will leave this window?

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:37 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:35 pm
Stephens should be fit soon, he’ll be like a new signing. We just need a couple of young players to add a bit of depth to the U23’s.
.😂😂😂 brilliant 👏 👏

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 pm
Do you think Tarks will leave this window?
Another bit of the argument. As a club we are going to have to find the best time to sell him. I don’t think we will get much option with summer the most likely.
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Post by DCWat » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm
Another bit of the argument. As a club we are going to have to find the best time to sell him. I don’t think we will get much option with summer the most likely.
If he signs a new deal, he thinks we’ve a chance of competing a little more, or the ‘money not being the issue’ was ********.

He’ll be off, surely? And good luck to him, if that’s the case.

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Post by jrgbfc » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:59 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:38 pm
If he signs a new deal, he thinks we’ve a chance of competing a little more, or the ‘money not being the issue’ was ********.

He’ll be off, surely? And good luck to him, if that’s the case.
I think he's definetely going. If he's got any ambition to progress his career realistically it's time for him to move on.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:21 pm

I don't think he has any intention of signing a new deal so it is over to the club now to try and sell him at the best possible time.

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:34 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:22 pm
My prediction :-

Incomings - 0
Outgoings - 0
We all found this hilarious

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:40 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:34 pm
We all found this hilarious
0-0 is another point though
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:03 am

I’d keep Tarkowski until his contract ends. But if we sign a reasonable replacement. And if fit I’d say Jones is that. You’d have to consider an offer of 20m plus.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am

It’s pointless keeping players who don’t want to be here, I daresay he’d be professional enough to see the job out, it’s bad business practice any other way, cash in let him go & sign somebody else relatively decent.

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:24 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:40 pm
0-0 is another point though
I’d take a point right now Tony!
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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:25 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am
It’s pointless keeping players who don’t want to be here, I daresay he’d be professional enough to see the job out, it’s bad business practice any other way, cash in let him go & sign somebody else relatively decent.
Obviously we don't know the exact situation but his recent interview told us plenty. You are right, we have to find the right time for him to go in our favour. We don't want another Ings, Arfield, Boyd or Hendrick. Too many people have been allowed to walk for nothing. I know there is nothing you can do about that if the player decides he's going to see his contract out but we have to do what we can to ensure that doesn't happen with Tarkowski.

There was a time when a three year contract sounded lengthy but now, one year in, you are immediately in that predicament.
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Post by DCWat » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:52 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:25 am
Obviously we don't know the exact situation but his recent interview told us plenty. You are right, we have to find the right time for him to go in our favour. We don't want another Ings, Arfield, Boyd or Hendrick. Too many people have been allowed to walk for nothing. I know there is nothing you can do about that if the player decides he's going to see his contract out but we have to do what we can to ensure that doesn't happen with Tarkowski.

There was a time when a three year contract sounded lengthy but now, one year in, you are immediately in that predicament.
I’d guess, from what Tarkowski said, that he’s unlikely to want to run down his contract. More likely to want out at the next sign of an appealing opportunity.

You’re right though, we need to get ourselves into a position where we are able to move players on, for a fee, that look as though they’ll be unwilling to commit past their contract period.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 am

DCWat wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:52 am
I’d guess, from what Tarkowski said, that he’s unlikely to want to run down his contract. More likely to want out at the next sign of an appealing opportunity.

You’re right though, we need to get ourselves into a position where we are able to move players on, for a fee, that look as though they’ll be unwilling to commit past their contract period.
I don't think he does, I think he wanted out before the last window closed.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:59 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am
It’s pointless keeping players who don’t want to be here, I daresay he’d be professional enough to see the job out, it’s bad business practice any other way, cash in let him go & sign somebody else relatively decent.
But if that weakens us and strengthens an opponent...

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Post by DCWat » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:01 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 am
I don't think he does, I think he wanted out before the last window closed.
Yes, I think that was blatantly clear from his recent interview. I’m meaning more in terms of his future position.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:27 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:59 am
But if that weakens us and strengthens an opponent...
He won’t be signing for West Brom, Fulham or Sheffield United, trust me on that score, there’s nobody else to be bothered about & even if there was he would’ve be signing for them. He wants out he wants to be earning more money ASAP with a signing on fee & the club will want a fee rather than let him leave for nothing. Like other posters have said it’s just the timing & replacement to be considering now.

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Post by CFS » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:13 am

Tomori from Chelsea watch this space.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:32 am

There are plenty of players who would improve the squad but without the takeover I fear no signings will be possible and selling Tarks anyway a very bad idea.

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Post by CFS » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:23 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:32 am
There are plenty of players who would improve the squad but without the takeover I fear no signings will be possible and selling Tarks anyway a very bad idea.
There is no good or bad he wants Champions League football :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Phil Jones

Post by CardiffClaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:22 am

It is a rather surprising (but true) fact that if we were to sign Phil Jones in January, it would actually reduce the average age of the first team squad.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Shaggy » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:34 am

He’s a good player if we could keep him fit.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:39 am

I'd rather see Big Kev or Dunne in our defence than PJ - and I bet this post gets a lot of 'likes'!
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Pearcey » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:40 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:39 am
I'd rather see Big Kev or Dunne in our defence than PJ - and I bet this post gets a lot of 'likes'!
In what sense? Playing ability or personality? Jones is a far better player than both of them.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:42 am

If we do sign him, you will see just what a good player he is.

Ability wise, a cut above what we currently have.

Fitness the only issue for me.
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 am

I'll give this thread a few hours. We already know how it will go. Some people would prefer Jones over Long or Dunne. Some won't. Some of those who don't want him will be shouting down those who do. End of thread and good night. :)
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by tim_noone » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:44 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 am
I'll give this thread a few hours. We already know how it will go. Some people would prefer Jones over Long or Dunne. Some won't. Some of those who don't want him will be shouting down those who do. End of thread and good night. :)
:lol:

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by tim_noone » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:46 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:39 am
I'd rather see Big Kev or Dunne in our defence than PJ - and I bet this post gets a lot of 'likes'!
I liked it so much I'm Lmao :lol:

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:49 am

He's only 5 years older than Jimmy Dunne

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by IanMcL » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:56 am

At 23 Dunne is late on the scene.

At 28 Jones should be at his peak as a player.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by tim_noone » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:59 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:56 am
At 23 Dunne is late on the scene.

At 28 Jones should be at his peak as a player.
Hell always be a Bastado...but he could be our Bastado?
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:00 am

Why do some people think Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne are better than a guy who has 27 England caps and is still only 28? Its bizarre.
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:03 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:00 am
Why do some people think Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne are better than a guy who has 27 England caps and is still only 28? Its bizarre.
It’s up there with the ‘Ross Barkley isn’t good enough for us’ type of stuff.
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:04 am

I would sooner see Dyche play center half than Jones hes a complete busted flush and like someone just mentioned a former bastardo......no no no

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:06 am

Might not be a bad shout if we can keep him out of the donut shop.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by taio » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:11 am

Would have him here without hesitation if the intelligence suggests he can keep fit.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:14 am

Ability wise he’d be a good player for us.

However he appears to be injured more than Darren Anderton.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:14 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 am
...already know how it will go. Some people would prefer Jones over Long or Dunne. Some won't. Some of those who don't want him will be shouting down those who do...
OH NO WE WON'T!

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by CardiffClaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:17 am

I don’t know how I feel about it personally but was just shocked at how young he is. Same age as Tarkowski and 10 times the number of England caps. Granted he seems to be on a downward trajectory whereas Tarkowski is on an upwards trajectory, but I doubt any West Ham fans will be complaining Tarkowski is too old if they sign him.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 am

Phil Jones has shown nothing over the last 3 seasons, to suggest he would do a job for us.
It would be a massive gamble, one that MIGHT pay off, but BFC isn't in a position to take gambles on players. Not for what PJ would cost, and or want in wages. I just think Utd's defence is awful, and he can't get in it.
With Long, Dunne and Thomas showing promise, and all already on the books, we don't need a centre half, unless they are guaranteed to be of a quality to replace Tarks. Heaven forbid.
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:23 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:04 am
I would sooner see Dyche play center half than Jones hes a complete busted flush and like someone just mentioned a former bastardo......no no no
And we’ve never had any former ******* players come in and do a good job for us...
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:30 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:23 am
And we’ve never had any former ******* players come in and do a good job for us...
Ok I'll forgive him for being a bastardo,but those faces he pulls can we really tolerate that?🤔

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:31 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 am
Phil Jones has shown nothing over the last 3 seasons, to suggest he would do a job for us.
It would be a massive gamble, one that MIGHT pay off, but BFC isn't in a position to take gambles on players. Not for what PJ would cost, and or want in wages. I just think Utd's defence is awful, and he can't get in it.
With Long, Dunne and Thomas showing promise, and all already on the books, we don't need a centre half, unless they are guaranteed to be of a quality to replace Tarks. Heaven forbid.
Kevin Long is 30 years old. He’s never been a regular. He has never been good enough and never will be good enough.

A fit Phil Jones, in our ystem, would be an excellent addition. As I said yesterday, if Ben Mee can be comfortable in our system I’m certain Phil Jones can.
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