There will be no overhaul in the summer. Just a couple of signings to add to the constant can kicking.

Be interesting to see Mr Pace's comments.after this. His bullish earlier remarks now look like making him appear naive at best.

Beginning to think that when we reach the Summer window and simply need to replace those OOC, our only hope will be players who themselves are OOC. Bit like our early SD years eg Heaton, Jones, Arfield. Hope I am wrong, but I dont see the club stumping up any money

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:52 pm

Joe Willock to Newcastle.

Another signing that would have improved us.

are you basing that on all his average performances for Arsenal ?

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:56 pm

are you basing that on all his average performances for Arsenal ?

Come on Vegas this guy is better on the ball than of our midfield bar McNeil.

Wouldn’t say he has had average performances at all. He’s played pretty well for a big club and will no doubt have a good career at the top level.

Summer transfer business more likely to be funded by the sale of assets Dwight and Tarks than any investment from ALK.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:01 pm

Come on Vegas this guy is better on the ball than of our midfield bar McNeil.

Wouldn’t say he has had average performances at all. He’s played pretty well for a big club and will no doubt have a good career at the top level.

Who does he replace in the Newcastle team? Jeff?

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:06 pm

Summer transfer business more likely to be funded by the sale of assets Dwight and Tarks than any investment from ALK.

When you think it can't get any worse you just put the thought in my head of our team without them 2

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:01 pm

Come on Vegas this guy is better on the ball than of our midfield bar McNeil.

Wouldn’t say he has had average performances at all. He’s played pretty well for a big club and will no doubt have a good career at the top level.

I don't see any value in getting a kid in on loan, as a longer term signing that's a different matter. Whoever comes in (nobody by the looks of it) will either need to watch from the bench or walk into the team - not going to happen with a loan

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:08 pm

When you think it can't get any worse you just put the thought in my head of our team without them 2

Still another 4 hours to sell them...

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:01 pm

Come on Vegas this guy is better on the ball than of our midfield bar McNeil.

Wouldn’t say he has had average performances at all. He’s played pretty well for a big club and will no doubt have a good career at the top level.

If he has played pretty well for a big club, that have had their worst season for years, is he moving elsewhere?

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:11 pm

Still another 4 hours to sell them...

Let's hope not hey

Thankfully fans arent allowed in the stadium, as their opinions might have a negative impact on results and our stay in this league.

Who and why have they let it get this so bad for so long, hang your heads in shame

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:06 pm

Summer transfer business more likely to be funded by the sale of assets Dwight and Tarks than any investment from ALK.

I think you can add Pope to them two

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:11 pm

Still another 4 hours to sell them...

MACCA wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:17 pm

Thankfully fans arent allowed in the stadium, as their opinions might have a negative impact on results and our stay in this league.

Who and why have they let it get this so bad for so long, hang your heads in shame

The thing is, Macca, that it's not really that bad.
They will point to top ten finishes, and until recently a healthy bank balance.

So is that every team below and around us that have managed to sign somebody then?

Over the past 4 years, we've replaced our recruitment team, CEO and now owners, and still the same old sh*t. Clearly the blame is with Sean. My theory, he is too scared of upsetting the dressing room so would prefer to stick with what he has.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:17 pm

Thankfully fans arent allowed in the stadium, as their opinions might have a negative impact on results and our stay in this league.

Who and why have they let it get this so bad for so long, hang your heads in shame

You were blaming Garlick last window, and unwilling to listen to reason.

Who you blaming this window? Anyone but the real life circumstances we are in?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:23 pm

The thing is, Macca, that it's not really that bad.
They will point to top ten finishes, and until recently a healthy bank balance.

True, hopefully they announce season ticket prices very soon, and all can be forgotten again until August.

Hopefully this isnt the final straw for the miracle worker

Sean will feel let down with the positive noises re transfers being just total rubbish and I can see him seriously questioning his future.He had nonsense off the last board re funds and deserves to be backed by the new board not shafted

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:28 pm

Sean will feel let down with the positive noises re transfers being just total rubbish and I can see him seriously questioning his future.He had nonsense off the last board re funds and deserves to be backed by the new board not shafted

Will he? He’s not seemed anything like as frustrated this window compared to the last one.

Maybe he just realises now more than ever isn’t the time to try and extract value out of the transfer market.

Some people need to wake up and realise we haven’t been taken over by football rich people.

Steddyman wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:23 pm

So is that every team below and around us that have managed to sign somebody then?

Who have Sheffield Utd signed? Fulham? Palace?

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:25 pm

You were blaming Garlick last window, and unwilling to listen to reason.

Who you blaming this window? Anyone but the real life circumstances we are in?

Garlick has let it het this bad, I hoped the new guys had possibly got here just in time to salvage something from this window, but appears they didn't.

55m in cash reserves we had over the summer... 55m.... FIFTY FIVE MILLION

That has now gone into the previous share holders pockets...

Summer window was a bad one no doubt about it. Sean’s hands tied by the board with the takeover looming in the background and the past board not wanting to pony up. I was slightly more optimistic for this January window, partly spurred on by Pace’s comments but look around at what other clubs are doing....not much at all.

Liverpool signing a CB from PNE for £2m.... not exactly pulling up trees is it? The apparent “targets” we were looking at across both windows; Kenny, King, Arter et al again aren’t exactly pulling up trees at their current employers and would you really want to smash the wage structure to get one of those through the doors for the sake of announcing someone on deadline day? I’d much rather give the likes of Mumbongo 10 mins from the bench then sign Joshua King for £8m+ and apparent wages of £100k a week. Benchmarking against other clubs who have Brighton, Newcastle, WBA signed that would walk into our lineup and be the difference between us or them going down? Dyche has the final say on this and if he can’t see anything out there worth stretching the budgets for then wholeheartedly behind him.

If it’s a case of stick or twist, based on everything I’ve seen in Jan so far it’s stick every day of the week.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Who have Sheffield Utd signed? Fulham? Palace?

Is this Fulham Palace any good and what position does he play?

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Some people need to wake up and realise we haven’t been taken over by football rich people.

I don't think anyone has ever referred to the new owners as that, given the way they have used other people's money to acquire the club.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:32 pm

Garlick has let it het this bad, I hoped the new guys had possibly got here just in time to salvage something from this window, but appears they didn't.

55m in cash reserves we had over the summer... 55m.... FIFTY FIVE MILLION

That has now gone into the previous share holders pockets...

You wanted him out, you got your wish.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Who have Sheffield Utd signed? Fulham? Palace?

Palace signed Mateta on loan from Mainz last week and Fulham are supposedly chasing King

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:34 pm

I don't think anyone has ever referred to the new owners as that, given the way they have used other people's money to acquire the club.

You wouldn’t have thought that the case given all this imaginary money they are spending on their behalf.

For those of us old enough to remember Saturday Night at the London Palladium with Bruce Forsythe and beat the clock.

Please rearrange this well known phrase or saying.

"Down river the sold"

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:35 pm

You wouldn’t have thought that the case given all this imaginary money they are spending on their behalf.

The money certainly isn't imaginary. It is sitting on our balance sheet under the heading 'creditors'.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:32 pm

Garlick has let it het this bad, I hoped the new guys had possibly got here just in time to salvage something from this window, but appears they didn't.

55m in cash reserves we had over the summer... 55m.... FIFTY FIVE MILLION

That has now gone into the previous share holders pockets...

Don’t think we know that it’s gone in Garlicks pockets (yet!) but I agree that it’s in fathomable that we have had that level of cash, no debt and still couldn’t sign players.

I was roundly criticised on here when protesting in the summer window that we had money for signings. No way we had the £42m left, Covid had cost millions, etc, etc, then we found out it had actually grown & we had £55m.

Dread to think who our competitors would’ve signed last window if they had no debt and £55m in the bank!

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:37 pm

The money certainly isn't imaginary. It is sitting on our balance sheet under the heading 'creditors'.

I’m sure that made sense in your head.

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:38 pm

I’m sure that made sense in your head.

A creditor is someone, or a company, to whom money is owing.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:40 pm

A creditor is someone, or a company, to whom money is owing.

You don’t need to explain what a creditor is.

We were taking about where all the imaginary money is to buy players, you just pointed out we are in debt.

272 temporary or permanent signings by PL or EPL clubs so far in January , and counting

I don’t think it unreasonable to think Dyche and Pace discussed the clubs up and coming young players when they reached decisions about how far to go in signing the players mentioned this window.
I’m happy again to trust the judgement of our manager and chairman and don’t think it’s purely down to money at the end of the day.
I fully emphasise with those fans who are disappointed but
I’m positive that the best is yet to come on and off the playing field. I’m excited at seeing the plans for improving the stadium and accompanying atmosphere at matches.
Surely no one is daring enough to say Pace is a Fraud and Garlick has sold us down the river. Are they?

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:34 pm

You wanted him out, you got your wish.

Thank goodness, a few years too late, but we got there.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:43 pm

I don’t think it unreasonable to think Dyche and Pace discussed the clubs up and coming young players when they reached decisions about how far to go in signing the players mentioned this window.
I’m happy again to trust the judgement of our manager and chairman and don’t think it’s purely down to money at the end of the day.
I fully emphasise with those fans who are disappointed but
I’m positive that the best is yet to come on and off the playing field. I’m excited at seeing the plans for improving the stadium and accompanying atmosphere at matches.
Surely no one is daring enough to say Pace is a Fraud and Garlick has sold us down the river. Are they?

I hope the plans for improving the stadium are better than the plans for improving the team.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:43 pm

I don’t think it unreasonable to think Dyche and Pace discussed the clubs up and coming young players when they reached decisions about how far to go in signing the players mentioned this window.
I’m happy again to trust the judgement of our manager and chairman and don’t think it’s purely down to money at the end of the day.
I fully emphasise with those fans who are disappointed but
I’m positive that the best is yet to come on and off the playing field. I’m excited at seeing the plans for improving the stadium and accompanying atmosphere at matches.
Surely no one is daring enough to say Pace is a Fraud and Garlick has sold us down the river. Are they?

If we get relegated the ground becomes pointless and the squad we have lacks depth in key positions and quality in others, mainly right wing.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:42 pm

272 temporary or permanent signings by PL or EPL clubs so far in January , and counting

That’s nearly 11 full squads of players isn’t it? Wow, I thought it was meant to be quiet...

Have we signed anyone yet?

If it's yet another broken window at least Mr Rigg can sleep easy, after all, he did identify Collins & Kenny, something none of us could surely have done ! What wage does he take out of our club again ?

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:48 pm

That’s nearly 11 full squads of players isn’t it? Wow, I thought it was meant to be quiet...

Have we signed anyone yet?

Two, according to the sticky at the top of the board.

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:41 pm

You don’t need to explain what a creditor is.

We were taking about where all the imaginary money is to buy players, you just pointed out we are in debt.

Well given the money is imaginary, I wouldn't have thought it existed, so probably doesn't have a tangible location.

As for being in debt, that is certainly not imaginary, and could well impede any attempts to sign players. You said people need to realise the owners aren't rich - that should be very obvious to anyone who has been paying attention.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:49 pm

Two, according to the sticky at the top of the board.

You know I meant actual first team squad players don’t you

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:50 pm

You said people need to realise the owners aren't rich - that should be very obvious to anyone who has been paying attention.

Yet we’ve loads of people on here in faux outrage we aren’t splashing the cash.

Uptheclarets Transfer Window bingo

Sign over priced players and stay up - well done the board/Can't believe they are risking the future of the club
Sign over priced players and go down - what were the board thinking/at least they gave it a go
Stay up - we got lucky no thanks to the board/they new what they were doing
Go down - sack everybody/we'll bounce back

Bonus section
What does Mike Rigg do ?

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:50 pm

You know I meant actual first team squad players don’t you

Yes, but I'm pretty sure the two are included in the figure in the post you were replying to.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:43 pm

I don’t think it unreasonable to think Dyche and Pace discussed the clubs up and coming young players when they reached decisions about how far to go in signing the players mentioned this window.
I’m happy again to trust the judgement of our manager and chairman and don’t think it’s purely down to money at the end of the day.
I fully emphasise with those fans who are disappointed but
I’m positive that the best is yet to come on and off the playing field. I’m excited at seeing the plans for improving the stadium and accompanying atmosphere at matches.
Surely no one is daring enough to say Pace is a Fraud and Garlick has sold us down the river. Are they?

Which plans for improving the stadium are these ?

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