Was surprised how poor he was last night when he came on.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:05 am

Was surprised how poor he was last night when he came on.

I think you mean to say "How good Charlie Taylor was in dealing with him"

We defended deep against him and doubled up Taylor and McNeil/Pieters when he had the ball. Negates his pace when he only has a very short space to try and outrun the defender and his only option is to go outside to the bye line. Play a higher line and allow more space behind the defence for him to run into and he is far more effective.

Had a quiet season so far with no goals or assists

Good player and an absolute beast, but Charlie was outstanding against him yesterday.

He beat a man and put in a good cross almost immediately after coming on, and I thought "uh-oh". But I thought we got to grips with him really well after that. He's very dangerous, but he doesn't know how to bring in free men around him when you double up. If he had more awareness he'd be a hell of a player.

What was encouraging was that we seemed to have a plan for when he came on-we dont normally appear that organised, but it worked. I was surprised with their main striker out that he did not get played down the middle. Charlie did a great job on him

Defended him very cleverly. Taylor showed him the line and McNeill, then Pieters blocked the inside. Perfect defending and after 5-10 minutes he'd almost given up attempting to take them on, at which point the game was won because they didn't carry another threat. I thought the way our players backed up each other all over the park was an absolute joy to watch last night.

Not sure he should be allowed to oil his arms to stop him being held. I’d ask be the ref to send him off for a shower

I saw a fantastic tweet which summed him up perfectly.

If Adama Traore was any good at football he’d be a fantastic footballer.

An incredible lack of game intelligence just looking to dribble and dribble and dribble until he hit the byline and then cross. Always wants the ball to feet, rarely runs beyond the ball, never surprises with an early cross, never takes his man to the byline then rolls it back to the full back after creating the space ....... basically just does the same thing again and again and again.

Part of that is how we dealt with him. But a lot of it is down to him.

World class sprinter back to his Boro form.

Hes a very good player. Having an off game against us doesn't all of a sudden make him a bad player. Like having a great one off game wouldnt make him a great player.

He's been a crucial player for wolves and is now featuring for spain.

He is quick, direct, strong and creates a lot of space and panic at the back. Would love a player like that.

I’m surprised that Wolves don’t play him on the left more often. Not sure whether Lowts would have the speed or physical strength to have coped with him.

I think last season he ran us ragged and looked threatening every time he got the ball but clearly the coaching team learnt from that game and apart from his first cross Taylor, McNeil and Pieters dealt with him well.

I rate him, but pace only gets you so far.

Praise given for how we handled him.

He’d be awesome for us. We’d be unplayable with him. We can but dream

Socrates wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:30 am

I saw a fantastic tweet which summed him up perfectly.

If Adama Traore was any good at football he’d be a fantastic footballer.

An incredible lack of game intelligence just looking to dribble and dribble and dribble until he hit the byline and then cross. Always wants the ball to feet, rarely runs beyond the ball, never surprises with an early cross, never takes his man to the byline then rolls it back to the full back after creating the space ....... basically just does the same thing again and again and again.

Part of that is how we dealt with him. But a lot of it is down to him.

He's always been like that, Nuno seems to have rung a little more out of him but you really can't teach numb.

Learnt the lesson from letting Saint Maximin run riot against us at SJP, a similar type of player to Traoré. Magnificent marking job last night.

I think he spends more time in the gym than the training ground building up his arms and in the bathroom putting baby oil on them, did you see the shine on his guns lol lol lol lol,

One trick pony..... Sprint to byline and cross it in. Taylor dealt with pretty much every one

doesn't do any gym work apparently- natural build.

He's shown glimpses there is a terrifying player in there - up to him to build the consistency.

The terrible twins (Pieters and Taylor) negated Traoré

Papabendi wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:51 pm

doesn't do any gym work apparently- natural build.

He's shown glimpses there is a terrifying player in there - up to him to build the consistency.

Obviously his lies are as big as his muscles

Papabendi wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:51 pm

doesn't do any gym work apparently- natural build.

And I really have a cusan that is Nigerian billionaire prince..

If you believe he does no gym work youd believe anything.
Even Matt Lowton does gym work, and he's a dweeb.

As said he could be a brilliant player and would be ridiculous for us with our strikers in the box. If we had him I wouldn’t mind bringing crouch and vokes back!

I think it was said the “oil” is Vaseline which stops players getting hands on him when he inevitably sprints past...

he misses Jimenez, he can't put early balls into the box with him out. No doubt we dealt with him well but he had nothing to hit in the area at all

Papabendi wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:51 pm

doesn't do any gym work apparently- natural build.

He's shown glimpses there is a terrifying player in there - up to him to build the consistency.

I've read the articles where he claims he does no weight lifting.
Going from this at Barca to his build now though isn't just genetics or natural though weight gain etc.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm

he misses Jimenez, he can put early balls into the box with him out. No doubt we dealt with him well but he had nothing to hit in the area at all

Wolves miss Jimenez full stop, but any team will miss a player of that class, and to add to their woes they let Jota go to Liverpool in the summer, since Jimenez's enforced absence Wolves have lost 3 out of 4, and in these games they've looked toothless up front, just goes to show that every team needs their key players fit and available.

I wouldn't be surprised if they dip into the market next month, they can't continue as they are just now, if they aren't careful their lack of goals could see them in a relegation scrap, yes they've got a comfortable buffer right now, but another month of poor results, and the bottom clubs will be making up the ground very quickly.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:11 am

Had a quiet season so far with no goals or assists

That stat doesn't surprise me as much as I thought it might, he's barely been mentioned this season, and he's only played 760 minutes out of a possible 1260, so obviously Nuno feels he's not contributing as much as he did last season, he's not even making the impact from the bench against tiring defences that you'd expect of him.

Adam Traore has made 117 PL appearances and scored 5 goals and has 12 assists.
Johann Berg Gudmundsson has made 100 PL appearances and scored 7 goals and has 12 assists.
Dwight McNeil has made 73 PL appearances and scored 5 goals and has 12 assists,
Robbie Brady has made 71 PL appearances and scored 4 with 7 assists.
Ashley Westwood 110 PL appearances and scored 5 goals with 15 assists.

Yes, Traore is fast, however, as you can see from the figures above,we have four players who, for one reason or another, have not played the number of matches that Traore has but whose records playing for us compare very favourably. Sadly, some are often malighned by our own fans.

He's not being used correctly which is down to the manager not being good enough.

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:12 pm

He's not being used correctly which is down to the manager not being good enough.

No, no Frank! It''s the referee who isn't good enough ---the manager says so. Mind you, wouldn't it be great if Lee Mason could have replied and said exactly that!

He shaps like a headless chicken

It seems always to be his final ball that lets him down. If he could cross a ball like Trippier, he’d be a world class player!

Maybe he is having a quiet season because all the teams have worked out how to stop him. Teams are doubling up on Dwight now so he isn't as influential on the wing as he was. At least Dwight goes looking for the ball and changes position. He just seems to stick to the wing.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:05 am

Was surprised how poor he was last night when he came on.

He wasn't poor, we doubled up on him and stopped him doing what he can do.

A victim of media hype. Had a purple patch last season and was talked about like he was a world beater.

As the stats further up the tread show, he has been less effective overall in his career than several of our players who go about their business under the radar.

Never rated him as a footballer. He had an excellent season, last year.

He's definitely dangerous, though. Very fast and needs to be watched closely.

If this lad could play football he’d be a good player.

First of all a superb performance today. Can somebody please explain to me how this guy stayed on the pitch today? It is almost as if that Cork has to go down pathetically holding his face in order for the right call to be made there. What was the VAR officials thinking?

We played him very well, two close to him and pushed him down the line from where he could hit it against Taylor or put it into Row Z.

Very poor today...we made him so.

one trick pony.

Taylor is going to need bigger pockets on the way home..

He should have gone, however it didn't upset the balance and we won. UTC

Oliver bottled it.

As per, he'd rather make the wrong decision than a big decision.

Because of his pace, you have an unexplainable, unjustified fear that this might be his one game in 30 he uses his physique to its capabilities.

However, just as the case was for the likes of Jamal Campbell-Ryce, Wayne Routledge, Nathan Dyer and plenty of other pace merchants we’ve feared over the years through the leagues - they’re invariably actually pretty ****.

Compare Traore's end product today with Dwight's, and that's why Dwight got 2 assists and Traore didn't, there was a couple of occasions in the 2nd half which summed up Traore's afternoon, he had 2 chances to put balls into the box, and on both those occasions he overhit the cross and it went out of play., whereas Dwight's delivery was bang on the money today.

Should have been booked for challenge on Taylor

It was just a brush of the hand on Corks chin, handbags for me nothing more. Referee who I thought had a good game got it spot on.