• Next 6 League games

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:57 am**

Bit bored so looking ahead.
I know games are played on grass and not in my head but each time I picture each of those games I see a defeat.
Zero points out of the next 18 available would be a sobering prospect.
Let's hope they can surprise us and sneak a couple of draws to keep the points total ticking over until the following batch of games which look a lot more promising.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:00 am**

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:57 am
Bit bored so looking ahead.
I know games are played on grass and not in my head but each time I picture each of those games I see a defeat.
Zero points out of the next 18 available would be a sobering prospect.
Let's hope they can surprise us and sneak a couple of draws to keep the points total ticking over until the following batch of games which look a lot more promising.

Prepare to be eaten alive.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:00 am**

When we have these threads, very few seem to be correct, as we pick up points against teams we wouldn't expect (see Wolves and Arsenal), yet lose or draw games most of us would predict us winning (see WBA).

One game at a time.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:00 am**

A very lazy attempt, and even early on a sunday I'd be surprised if you caught any.

Even those half asleep wont fall for that.

Edit - too late...

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:02 am**

For context:

Man U (H)
West Ham (A)
Liverpool (A)
Villa (H)
Chelsea (A)
Man City (H)

I can see us picking up 4 points from those and the next 3 games after that are Brighton, Palace & West Brom.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:02 am**

Actually just looked at the fixtures and you might not be far off. 3/4 points would be a good return on the next 6 league games

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:09 am**

It was definately not a fishing attempt. Just look at those games. I did end by saying they might hopefully sneak a couple of draws (maybe WH away and Villa home).
Hopefully, they will win all six.
Duffer - I did say that the next batch looked a lot more winnable. We might just have to keep calm on here as we go through the likely sequence coming up.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:10 am**

Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:02 am
Actually just looked at the fixtures and you might not be far off. 3/4 points would be a good return on the next 6 league games

I’d be pleased with that, from such a run. It wouldn’t at all surprise me if we got a couple more though.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:10 am**

Think those same fixtures yielded 4 points last season with a draw away at Liverpool and win away at West Ham. Rest were defeats.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:12 am**

That’s a tough run, but if Fulham continue at their current trajectory we would still be above the bottom three if we lost all 6, and that’s very unlikely.

I would have liked the Fulham game to have gone ahead because putting that extra 3 points between us and them would have given us a massive amount of breathing space.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 am**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:12 am
That’s a tough run, but if Fulham continue at their current trajectory we would still be above the bottom three if we lost all 6, and that’s very unlikely.

I would have liked the Fulham game to have gone ahead because putting that extra 3 points between us and them would have given us a massive amount of breathing space.

Just because the game goes ahead does not necessarily mean we get 3 points

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 am**

Certainly a tough set of fixtures. 4 points would be ok and say 6 points good.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:18 am**

Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 am
Just because the game goes ahead does not necessarily mean we get 3 points

I’m well aware of that. What is it with people on here trying to look for arguments where they don’t exist?

With the current form of both sides, and our good home record, we were favourites to win the game. And I would rather have taken our momentum into that game than be saddled with another game in hand which could be played when both sides are in contrasting form.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:20 am**

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:00 am
A very lazy attempt, and even early on a sunday I'd be surprised if you caught any.

Even those half asleep wont fall for that.

Edit - too late...

Posts like yours are derogatory to the board. People post what comes to mind. Always the same bunch/clique that try and put it down/shine a bad light. If you don’t want to be diverse just ignore the post.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:33 am**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:18 am
I’m well aware of that. What is it with people on here trying to look for arguments where they don’t exist?

With the current form of both sides, and our good home record, we were favourites to win the game. And I would rather have taken our momentum into that game than be saddled with another game in hand which could be played when both sides are in contrasting form.

“What is it with people on here trying to look for arguments where they don’t exist”? Maybe people aren’t maybe people simply don’t agree & wish to debate in a sensible & reasonable manner & you can’t or refuse to see that, the Fulham game should allow us to get more injured players back on the grass despite us having that momentum, Fulham right now for us with all things considered are a banana skin & I think it’s beneficial to wait & play them at a later point, that’s not me deliberately finding arguments that’s me simply offering an alternative viewpoint different to yours.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:36 am**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:33 am
“What is it with people on here trying to look for arguments where they don’t exist”? Maybe people aren’t maybe people simply don’t agree & wish to debate in a sensible & reasonable manner & you can’t or refuse to see that, the Fulham game should allow us to get more injured players back on the grass despite us having that momentum, Fulham right now for us with all things considered are a banana skin & I think it’s beneficial to wait & play them at a later point, that’s not me deliberately finding arguments that’s me simply offering an alternative viewpoint different to yours.

Alternative view point ! On here? Careful now

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:38 am**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:33 am
“What is it with people on here trying to look for arguments where they don’t exist”? Maybe people aren’t maybe people simply don’t agree & wish to debate in a sensible & reasonable manner & you can’t or refuse to see that, the Fulham game should allow us to get more injured players back on the grass despite us having that momentum, Fulham right now for us with all things considered are a banana skin & I think it’s beneficial to wait & play them at a later point, that’s not me deliberately finding arguments that’s me simply offering an alternative viewpoint different to yours.

Please stop following me around and interjecting into my discussions with other people unless you’ve actually got something to add. You’re just being disruptive for the sake of it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:45 am**

Lets hope that the season is completed in full. The nightmare scenario would be some sort of points per game calculation with the season ending just at the end of those next six fixtures...

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:46 am**

Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 am
Just because the game goes ahead does not necessarily mean we get 3 points

Completely agree, it’s a dangerous time to be playing them there had a good home draw against Southampton & are improving the Tottenham away they wouldn’t have fancied but I could have seen them getting something.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:14 pm**

Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:14 am
Just because the game goes ahead does not necessarily mean we get 3 points

Of course it doesn’t but why would we not want to be playing a team currently sat below us at a point in the season when we are by some distance in our best spell of form ?......and at home too.

The plus side is of course we get some extra rest and time for injuries to clear up.

If Fulham players have been in breach of Covid rules we should have just been awarded the game 3-0. There is a complete lack of deterrent for these idiots to just get away with it. If that were Burnley players I’d feel exactly the same. The thing that you would think would hurt players is the fury of their own fans and team mates that they have cost the club points. I’d also ban them from playing for 3 months minimum. Fining them is largely useless with the 2 week maximum fine they seem to have as a rule - but you may aswell fine them as much as you are allowed to.
But the club in breach should also have to compensate the TV companies for the costs of losing the fixture.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:19 pm**

7 points wins against Villa and West Ham and draw against Man U. Not sure we'll get anyhting from the other 3 as we never seem to get anything from them.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:20 pm**

TVC15 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:14 pm
Of course it doesn’t but why would we not want to be playing a team currently sat below us at a point in the season when we are by some distance in our best spell of form ?......and at home too.

My reasons would be
(1) it will be the same scenario when we eventually do play them
(2) costa, jones and lingard will have settled in By the time it’s rearranged

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:20 pm**

TVC15 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:14 pm
Of course it doesn’t but why would we not want to be playing a team currently sat below us at a point in the season when we are by some distance in our best spell of form ?......and at home too.

The plus side is of course we get some extra rest and time for injuries to clear up.

If Fulham players have been in breach of Covid rules we should have just been awarded the game 3-0. There is a complete lack of deterrent for these idiots to just get away with it. If that were Burnley players I’d feel exactly the same. The thing that you would think would hurt players is the fury of their own fans and team mates that they have cost the club points. I’d also ban them from playing for 3 months minimum. Fining them is largely useless with the 2 week maximum fine they seem to have as a rule - but you may aswell fine them as much as you are allowed to.
But the club in breach should also have to compensate the TV companies for the costs of losing the fixture.

I’m not sure that awarding a win to the opposing team is a fair course of action personally. We would feel pretty robbed if Fulham for example got a 3-0 win against Liverpool because some of their players test positive.

Furthermore, the timing of the tests will dictate how many games are rearranged. I don’t know how long the isolation periods are, but it is possible that in a 10 day period a team may have 3 games cancelled. This would make the league a total farce.

A fair way, in my opinion, would be to reschedule the game but not allow players to play who have been found to be in breach of the Covid rules. It would be totally unfair for example to punish a player who has tested positive because their wife contracted the virus in hospital, or their child contract it in school.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:22 pm**

Agree with FactualFrank, take it one game at a time.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:29 pm**

It’s crazy to suggest Fulham would have been there for the taking, we needed a break we put a poor Sheffield united to the sword & did we had to do but it was laboured performance & far from convincing we was due to hit the skids & coming up against a fresh improving Fulham buoyed by a credible home draw against a flying Southampton side, come on...

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:31 pm**

leelad wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:22 pm
Agree with FactualFrank, take it one game at a time.

I bet your parties

are full of fun and surprises

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:36 pm**

Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:31 pm
I bet your parties are full of fun and surprises

GIADJ81's are

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:37 pm**

Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:20 am
Posts like yours are derogatory to the board. People post what comes to mind. Always the same bunch/clique that try and put it down/shine a bad light. If you don’t want to be diverse just ignore the post.

I understand what you're saying however posts like yours are derogatory to the board. People post what comes to mind. Always the same bunch/clique that try and put it down/shine a bad light. If you don’t want to be diverse just ignore the post...

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:52 pm**

18 points from the next 6 games would please the new owners !!

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:03 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:20 pm
I’m not sure that awarding a win to the opposing team is a fair course of action personally. We would feel pretty robbed if Fulham for example got a 3-0 win against Liverpool because some of their players test positive.

Furthermore, the timing of the tests will dictate how many games are rearranged. I don’t know how long the isolation periods are, but it is possible that in a 10 day period a team may have 3 games cancelled. This would make the league a total farce.

A fair way, in my opinion, would be to reschedule the game but not allow players to play who have been found to be in breach of the Covid rules. It would be totally unfair for example to punish a player who has tested positive because their wife contracted the virus in hospital, or their child contract it in school.

I’m only talking about awarding games where the clubs players have been found to breach the rules and this has led to a cancellation of the game. Firstly it would probably mean that these teams would consider not cancelling the game if they knew they would have to forfeit the game. And secondly and more importantly it’s a real deterrent.

I am not advocating this when clubs have an outbreak which has not been caused by players breaching the rules. That would be totally unreasonable and unfair.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:18 pm**

MT03ALG wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:52 pm
18 points from the next 6 games would please the new owners !!

I know they hold religious beliefs but I did not know God was also on the board of directors

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:32 pm**

TVC15 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:03 pm
I’m only talking about awarding games where the clubs players have been found to breach the rules and this has led to a cancellation of the game. Firstly it would probably mean that these teams would consider not cancelling the game if they knew they would have to forfeit the game. And secondly and more importantly it’s a real deterrent.

I am not advocating this when clubs have an outbreak which has not been caused by players breaching the rules. That would be totally unreasonable and unfair.

I suppose the problem is that we will never be sure how the virus has spread through a team. And you can just imagine some clubs seeking the services of private investigators in the hope of exposing footballers who will flout the rules. Might sound far fetched but it opens up a can of worms.

I also think it’s unfair to punish an entire club for what could just be the reckless actions of a single player who may be on his way out of the club in the next transfer window.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:52 pm**

To try and bring this thread back to the topic, I can see points in our next 6, we have finally found our strong jaw again, and we're now keeping clean sheets once more.

Man U (H) - I don't expect anything here, United have found their stride and they'll have too much for us. (0)
West Ham (A) - We can definitely get something down there, remember we've won at the London Stadium twice in recent seasons, so I certainly don't fear a trip there, I think we'll take at least a point. (1)
Liverpool (A) - Tough on paper, but we took a point there last season, and if West Brom can nick a draw there then why can't we. I'll play safe and predict a narrow loss. (0)
Villa (H) - This is definitely a winnable game, they have talent, but their form is erratic, let's hope we get them on one of their off days. (3)
Chelsea (A) - Hard to see us getting anything here. but like Villa they can blow hot and cold. (0)
Man City (H) - Again it's not a fixture you'd be expecting anything from, and sadly you'll probably be right. (0)

I've tried to be objective in those calls, who knows maybe we can spring a surprise or two, it wouldn't be the first time, but 4 point from that tough block wouldn't be the end of the world, and it'd take us to the 20 point mark, with hopefully a fair number of winnable games to come, and we've shown plenty of times in this division that we can win the crunch games when we need to.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:24 pm**

Apart from the "string" jaw, you're probably right but I've a feeling we'll do better than expected in these games. I'm going for 9 points.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:47 pm**

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:52 pm
To try and bring this thread back to the topic, I can see points in our next 6, we have finally found our strong jaw again, and we're now keeping clean sheets once more.

Man U (H) - I don't expect anything here, United have found their stride and they'll have too much for us. (0)
West Ham (A) - We can definitely get something down there, remember we've won at the London Stadium twice in recent seasons, so I certainly don't fear a trip there, I think we'll take at least a point. (1)
Liverpool (A) - Tough on paper, but we took a point there last season, and if West Brom can nick a draw there then why can't we. I'll play safe and predict a narrow loss. (0)
Villa (H) - This is definitely a winnable game, they have talent, but their form is erratic, let's hope we get them on one of their off days. (3)
Chelsea (A) - Hard to see us getting anything here. but like Villa they can blow hot and cold. (0)
Man City (H) - Again it's not a fixture you'd be expecting anything from, and sadly you'll probably be right. (0)

I've tried to be objective in those calls, who knows maybe we can spring a surprise or two, it wouldn't be the first time, but 4 point from that tough block wouldn't be the end of the world, and it'd take us to the 20 point mark, with hopefully a fair number of winnable games to come, and we've shown plenty of times in this division that we can win the crunch games when we need to.

So, I think you have us down for 4 points from the 6 games.
Problem we have is, Villa have won five times away from home this season which is very impressive.
This is why I ended up with not a lot.
Still, you never know, sometimes when I think back I can see results against all those teams - that's the beauty of football.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:35 pm**

All depends if we sign a proper striker, as the defense we know, will always do its best

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:40 pm**

I think both Fulham and Brighton have difficult games over
the next 6 games so for me it's one game at a time.

As long as we either match or better their results
then we'll still be above them.

it's as simple as that.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:42 pm**

So people are predicting 4 losses or more out of 6 games when we lost 2 of the last 9 (one to Man City and one to the referee). I just love the optimism on here....

One game at a time...all winnable

Absolutely no need to worry about Brighton, Fulham or anyone else....our results are the only ones that matter...as always

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:56 pm**

Of course it looks daunting, but at a similar time last year, having just been battered by Chelsea, we weren’t too confident about up-coming games against Leicester, Man U and Arsenal. That didn’t turn out too bad. You just never know.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:44 pm**

Man Utd: draw
Villa and West Ham: wins.
An optimistic 7 points

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:55 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:44 pm
Man Utd: draw
Villa and West Ham: wins.
An optimistic 7 points

I think you must have read my earlier post

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:06 pm**

In the same way that no one should assume we will beat Fulham, no one should assume we will lose any of the next 6 fixtures. As Dyche would say, where does it say in the rules that we cannot win.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:09 pm**

Firthy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:55 pm
I think you must have read my earlier post

No, but I read a few and saw so much negativity, i just wanted to show a bit of faith.
and you obviously know your football

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:35 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:44 pm
Man Utd: draw
Villa and West Ham: wins.
An optimistic 7 points

Not seen anything to change my earlier view.
If anything, I am even more pessimistic now than I was then.
I used to take exception to the comments aimed at us by fans of other teams but cannot really argue with it these days.
Getting a bit depressing watching the same turgid, predictable hoofball every match. This coming from a self confessed happy clapper.

Prediction for end of season is 31 points. Not sure that will be enough (is that amount ever enough)?

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:52 pm**

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:35 pm
Not seen anything to change my earlier view.
If anything, I am even more pessimistic now than I was then.
I used to take exception to the comments aimed at us by fans of other teams but cannot really argue with it these days.
Getting a bit depressing watching the same turgid, predictable hoofball every match. This coming from a self confessed happy clapper.

Prediction for end of season is 31 points. Not sure that will be enough (is that amount ever enough)?

Yes. I was optimistic for once, but I have no optimism left.
Didn't bother watching today, and I'm glad I didn't.
TBH I'm sick of the Americans (already) and Dyche.

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:31 pm**

It's difficult to feel optimistic about our next 6 games.
We've already lost the first two and can't see us picking up much,
if anything from the next four by which time we could be in the bottom three again.

Feel a little sorry for Wood and Barnes as they are both struggling
but Dyche will stick with them no doubt in the hope that they come good.
Albeit he did bring on both Vydra and Jayrod today earlier than he has in the past
and there were a few signs from Vydra.

U think we definitely need some fresh blood both in midfield and up front.

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:49 pm**

jurek wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:31 pm
It's difficult to feel optimistic about our next 6 games.
We've already lost the first two and can't see us picking up much,
if anything from the next four by which time we could be in the bottom three again.

Feel a little sorry for Wood and Barnes as they are both struggling
but Dyche will stick with them no doubt in the hope that they come good.
Albeit he did bring on both Vydra and Jayrod today earlier than he has in the past
and there were a few signs from Vydra.

U think we definitely need some fresh blood both in midfield and up front.

The encouraging aspect is that we're competitive in every game pretty much, so I don't fear us being canned 3/4-0 every week, however until we can start finding goals from somewhere, we'll struggle to win enough games, as good as our defence is we can't expect them to keep a clean sheet every week, whether changing the strikers would make a difference IDK, but clearly something has to change, because as it stands we're just keeping our heads above water, with 3/4 difficult games on the horizon, and apart from set-pieces it's hard too see where our next goal is coming from.

Am I panicking no, am I concerned definitely, because if you can't score goals often enough, you're not going to win games at any level, never mind in the PL.

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:32 pm**

We're nor creating enough chances/shots (26 in the last 3 games)
and much worse in terms of on target (5 in total).
Those have to be worrying and certainly not good enough to win you
games and/or get you a draw.

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:11 pm**

Funnily enough, I think we’ll get a result against Liverpool

Posted: **Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:13 pm**

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:11 pm
Funnily enough, I think we’ll get a result against Liverpool

Me too, a win, lose or draw.

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