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4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:07 pm
by dandeclaret
Lowton, JBG and Long 2 years
Erik Pieters 1 year

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:09 pm
by Steve1956
Long 2 more years 😳

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
by Zom Zom
If I was Long I'd prefer to be playing I feel. Still, well done to the lad on earning another spell.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
by Right_winger
We really need to be moving these players on now and getting better quality younger players in

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
by Steve1956
Like a new signing that!

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
by burnley007
I'm surprised, but fairly pleased, as long as they're not too expensive, which I doubt.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
by WazzaClaret
I'm glad we've extended them, I'm surprised Kev Long decided to sign up again. At his age I'd thought he'd have dropped to play regular championship footy.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
by burnley007
Bardsley, Brady?

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:12 pm
by Steve1956
I like Kevin Long........but he really has to go to the No1 spot in the Stealing a living thread!

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:12 pm
by jedi_master
I wouldn’t have been giving JBG two years considering the last two seasons and the fact he’s now in his 30’s - but that’s just me.

Lowton getting two years signifies the end of Bardsley’s time I reckon, and the likes of Kenny coming in to compete.

Glad Pieters is confirmed to stay, and personally happy Long is staying. He’s backup, no more no less, and I assume he’s on a relative pittance and doesn’t kick up a stink that he doesn’t play.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:13 pm
by cockneyclaret
JBG must be in shock.. the Glassman gets a new contract

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:15 pm
by ksrclaret
Sadly we have very little choice when it comes to retaining the players we've got, because we simply cannot recruit.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:15 pm
by DCWat
WazzaClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
I'm glad we've extended them, I'm surprised Kev Long decided to sign up again. At his age I'd thought he'd have dropped to play regular championship footy.
He will surely look back on his career, at some point in the future, and have some regrets.

OK, so he’s picked up a good wage, he may well be very happy at Burnley and be a big part of the group - ultimately though, it’s a very short career and he’s not done too much other than be an OK, occasional backup.

Each to their own, I just hope he doesn’t end up wishing he’d done things differently.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:15 pm
by longhair
JBG has only just turned 30.31 in october

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:18 pm
by DCWat
dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:07 pm
Lawton, JBG and Long 2 years
Erik Pieters 1 year
That’s three areas that many see as key positions for improvement in. Those extensions don’t suggest imminent reinforcements for at least two positions!

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:20 pm
by dpinsussex
dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:07 pm
Lawton, JBG and Long 2 years
Erik Pieters 1 year
Lawton??

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:23 pm
by LongsideClaret
DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:18 pm
That’s three areas that many see as key positions for improvement in. Those extensions don’t suggest imminent reinforcements for at least two positions!
Don’t agree with this. Bardsley is expected to leave and a replacement will be brought in to challenge Lowton. Long is currently our 3rd choice centre back and with Tarky likely to leave it would be crazy to lose him. Pieters is decent enough back up to Taylor, and we are a winger short on JBG’s side anyway.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:25 pm
by chekhov
From my non-expert perspective Kevin Long has been a loyal and vital member of our squad and should be appreciated for his service to the club. When he’s been called upon he’s stepped up to the plate and performed very reliably.
If there was a thread titled ā€œunsung heroesā€ he’d be top of the list.
That’s my opinion.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:27 pm
by Rowls
Good to see things getting done. The last year+ has been marked by inertia.

Glad to have all these lads signed up.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:27 pm
by dandeclaret
dpinsussex wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:20 pm
Lawton??
Dunno how that got in there... would never spell it that way and can’t work a. Autocorrect to recreate it.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:27 pm
by KlyBfc
I’m ok with this, as long as we are still going to be looking to develop the starting 11. They all provide solid options for a club with our finances especially as back ups. They are trusted by the manager, know what we are about, fit into to squad as characters and are happy to be at Burnley, replacing them would cost a fortune and how many players will come to us as squad players.

Like others I’m sure, when long plays I expect him to give a goal or golden chance away every game and I do not want to see him as a first team regular because of that. I’m not surprised he hasn’t moved on though because I think he will back himself (even if we don’t ) to take the spot / chance when Tarks leaves.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:28 pm
by nyclaret
Kevin Long really out here just enjoying life going to training and playing a few games every season.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:32 pm
by Burnley1989
LongsideClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:23 pm
Don’t agree with this. Bardsley is expected to leave and a replacement will be brought in to challenge Lowton. Long is currently our 3rd choice centre back and with Tarky likely to leave it would be crazy to lose him. Pieters is decent enough back up to Taylor, and we are a winger short on JBG’s side anyway.
100% agree with everything you’ve said there

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:34 pm
by DCWat
LongsideClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:23 pm
Don’t agree with this. Bardsley is expected to leave and a replacement will be brought in to challenge Lowton. Long is currently our 3rd choice centre back and with Tarky likely to leave it would be crazy to lose him. Pieters is decent enough back up to Taylor, and we are a winger short on JBG’s side anyway.
Fair point - I’d assumed Brady to remain on the right and that Bardsley (better option the Lowton for me) would get an extra year.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:34 pm
by SkiptonClaret
Dad’s Army. We desperately need to add some youth to the squad.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:38 pm
by ksrclaret
SkiptonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:34 pm
Dad’s Army. We desperately need to add some youth to the squad.
We're not really interested in having too much youth in the squad (one or two youngsters is plenty). And even if we were, we'd not be able to recruit it anyway.

Best that we stick with Kev, Lowts, and Big Erik.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:39 pm
by jrgbfc
As long as we see Lowton and JBG as being squad players/backup i don't really have a problem with them getting new deals.
If we aren't looking to improve on them this summer then you have to question what the point of the takeover was.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:39 pm
by LaLigaClaret
At least we will get a small fee when Long is sold in the summer !

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:40 pm
by DomBFC1882
DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:18 pm
That’s three areas that many see as key positions for improvement in. Those extensions don’t suggest imminent reinforcements for at least two positions!
Sadly I think you're right which is not good enough. When are we ever going to improve the starting 11 šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:45 pm
by Aclaret
Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:12 pm
I like Kevin Long........but he really has to go to the No1 spot in the Stealing a living thread!
I guess there's ambition and then there's security...

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:56 pm
by brunlea99
How anyone could accuse any of our players as ""stealing a living" is beyond me.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:59 pm
by jrgbfc
Aclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:45 pm
I guess there's ambition and then there's security...
Kevin Long clearly has no interest in playing, think its quite sad personally.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:01 pm
by dsr
The problem, if it is a problem, is that we already have players who are good enough to finish in the top half in a good year and fairly comfortably away from relegation in a bad year. It's so easy to say we must sign better players - but to finish above top half, we're looking at competing in the same markets as Leicester, Everton, Wolves, perhaps Aston Villa, and we can't expect to sign any players that they want to sign. We need to find the good players that other clubs don't realise how good they are - not easy.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:04 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Good news we are not going to have the same fiasco as last summer. We can’t just get rid of them all in the summer still need these type of players as part of our squad.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:09 pm
by Bigvince
Understandable keeping Lowton, think we’ll be after new right back in the summer when Bardsley leaves. Pieters has another year as back up in him, pleased that JBG has another couple of yrs, lets hope he can stay fit! Happy to have long as one of our backup centre halves.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:09 pm
by chekhov
jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:59 pm
Kevin Long clearly has no interest in playing, think its quite sad personally.
Why is it sad? I’m curious. I’m sure it’s not sad for Kevin Long, and I’m sure he has a fantastic life. And Burnley are lucky to have such a competent backup member of the squad who is happy to only play a few games a season.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:10 pm
by DomBFC1882
dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:01 pm
The problem, if it is a problem, is that we already have players who are good enough to finish in the top half in a good year and fairly comfortably away from relegation in a bad year. It's so easy to say we must sign better players - but to finish above top half, we're looking at competing in the same markets as Leicester, Everton, Wolves, perhaps Aston Villa, and we can't expect to sign any players that they want to sign. We need to find the good players that other clubs don't realise how good they are - not easy.
Or develop younger players and make them better like mcneil. We could do that with players like Jason Knight from Derby also.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:11 pm
by jojomk1
DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:15 pm
He will surely look back on his career, at some point in the future, and have some regrets.

OK, so he’s picked up a good wage, he may well be very happy at Burnley and be a big part of the group - ultimately though, it’s a very short career and he’s not done too much other than be an OK, occasional backup.

Each to their own, I just hope he doesn’t end up wishing he’d done things differently.
And when he checks his bank balance and thinks about the couple of £million that's going to be added in the next two years I'm sure he will break down in tears

Joy not sorrow ;)

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:12 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:04 pm
Good news we are not going to have the same fiasco as last summer. We can’t just get rid of them all in the summer still need these type of players as part of our squad.
Exactly this.

Also worth noting that the manager will have been pushing for these extensions and it is a clear sign of backing the manager from Alan Pace.

4th choice centre halves are difficult to find. No problem with having Kevin Long stay for longer for this reason.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:16 pm
by jrgbfc
chekhov wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:09 pm
Why is it sad? I’m curious. I’m sure it’s not sad for Kevin Long, and I’m sure he has a fantastic life. And Burnley are lucky to have such a competent backup member of the squad who is happy to only play a few games a season.
Yes he'll be very well off, i just think a professional footballer should want to play football and have some drive to better themselves.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:17 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:12 pm
I like Kevin Long........but he really has to go to the No1 spot in the Stealing a living thread!
Really unfair. How many times has he let us down when called into action. I think there are lots of teams that would welcome anyone with Kev Longs attitude. To put the groundwork in week in, week out, knowing you probably won't play. Just so that when the call does come he is ready. He does it all with a smile on his face, you never hear of him causing trouble, or spitting his dummy. I'm sure he is one of those players appreciated far more by his team mates than the fans, simply because they get to see that attitude day in, day out, and it keeps the rest of them on their toes.
Well done Kev, I for one, am glad you'll be around for another couple of years at least.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:19 pm
by BOYSIE31
It's like the over 30's club

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:22 pm
by dsr
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:04 pm
Good news we are not going to have the same fiasco as last summer. We can’t just get rid of them all in the summer still need these type of players as part of our squad.
When you count the number of contract extensions over the past few seasons and compare it with the number of players who wouldn't sign a new contract when offered (Jeff Hendrick was the only one that I remember), then "fiasco" is far too strong a word. BFC have a teriffic record of re-signing the players we want to keep.

Even if you throw in the departures of Lennon and Hart, "fiasco" remains too strong a word.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:25 pm
by jojomk1
jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:16 pm
Yes he'll be very well off, i just think a professional footballer should want to play football.
Put it this way

Would you rather play a handful of games for BFC each season but then be able to retire at around 35 on a pension that you or I could only dream of

Or would you rather work for an extra 30 years

Long could have quite easily gone down to League one, even Championship and played every week but his financial future will now be secured for the rest of his life

Good luck to him

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:27 pm
by SkiptonClaret
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:19 pm
It's like the over 30's club
Can only be two or three of the regular starters that aren’t at least 30 or very close.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:30 pm
by claretyke
Only one player stealing a living at Burnley and thats Brady imo

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:31 pm
by jojomk1
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:19 pm
It's like the over 30's club
When we start next season 10 players will be in their 30's (not including Bardsley) and Chris Wood just a few months away

But that is what Dyche clearly prefers

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:34 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
Zom Zom wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 pm
If I was Long I'd prefer to be playing I feel. Still, well done to the lad on earning another spell.
I heard 3 years ago what he was on. Not an outrage amount but far more than he would get at a lower level. I, for one, am happy to have him as cover. He has far more good games than poor ones even if he does have a mistake in him.

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:35 pm
by warksclaret
Funny how its been announced two days before the end, of what looks like being a barren window

Re: 4 contract extensions

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:35 pm
by brunlea99
claretyke wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:30 pm
Only one player stealing a living at Burnley and thats Brady imo
I refer you to my post at 4.56pm.