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Technical passing coach

Post by Bfc » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:25 pm

Given the length of time Dyche has been manager, the players passing accuracy skills, haven't improved much. Game after game players give the ball away a lot to the opposition. Maybe a technical coach, working with the players on improving that basic skill, will lead to the team having more possession and be under less pressure, when defending, through misplaced passe, which can lead to bookings.

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Technical passing coach

Post by Bfc » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:27 pm

Given the length of time Dyche has been manager, the players passing accuracy skills, haven't improved much. Game after game players give the ball away a lot to the opposition. Maybe a technical coach, working with the players on improving that basic skill, will lead to the team having more possession and be under less pressure, when defending, through misplaced passes, which can lead to bookings.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by beddie » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:34 pm

Can I add a "forward thinking (passing) coach" to that. Barton was superb at that for us.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Bosscat » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:34 pm

Its not technical passing a coach... Mirror Signal Manoeuvre 😁 simples innit

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:41 pm

I disagree
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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by BenWickes » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:41 pm

Bfc wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:25 pm
Given the length of time Dyche has been manager, the players passing accuracy skills, haven't improved much. Game after game players give the ball away a lot to the opposition. Maybe a technical coach, working with the players on improving that basic skill, will lead to the team having more possession and be under less pressure, when defending, through misplaced passe, which can lead to bookings.
ALK have invested in super powerful magnetic boots. We plan to implant all balls used in home games with ball bearings. Ian Woan is tasked with activating and deactivating the magnet with a pitch side clicker.
There are a a few things need ironing out though. Kevin Long dribbled past the entire opposition in a behind closed doors friendly the other day with the ball stuck to his foot.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:43 pm

I agree

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:51 pm

A technical passing coach 😂
I think the problem is the skill and pace of the league that forces our over achieving squad to give the ball away. Plus when your a long ball team the pass accuracy is always going to be lower.

The ‘framework’ we employ does not lend itself to a total football game.

Let’s keep playing to our squad and frameworks strength and keep lumping it until investment arrives.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by beeholeclaret » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:53 pm

I think they can all basically pass the ball (maybe not at the level required for Premier league). Two factors that influence this issue IMO are firstly they are under strict orders not to lose their shape which is essentially defensive (bus shaped - lol). This discourages anyone from running into positions to receive the ball and return (ie the neat little triangles that we see with Man City, Chelsea and a few more). Secondly it is down to confidence to actually do this. We saw in the second half yesterday that the players can do this if they are encouraged to do so. It was good to watch and almost got me out of my seat watching on TV. Lets hope we can get that balance right as we go forward.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Jamesy » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:04 pm

Bfc wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Given the length of time Dyche has been manager, the players passing accuracy skills, haven't improved much. Game after game players give the ball away a lot to the opposition. Maybe a technical coach, working with the players on improving that basic skill, will lead to the team having more possession and be under less pressure, when defending, through misplaced passes, which can lead to bookings.
Are you talking about the team in general or Erik Pieters?

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:12 pm

When Ben Mee is the playmaker it's fair to say Dyche isn't fussed about the passing.
He will just brush it off in the interview saying we could have done better, but like you say it never does.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Bfc » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:22 pm

James's, the team in general.
Untinted Glasses, I agree with you on the long passing accuracy level. Some of the long balls, seem to be clearances to relieve the pressure on the defence. Others are meant as a pass to a player, which more often than not is misplaced, to an opponent. My thoughts are a Tech coach could look at videos of games and then later ask players to view them as a group, for appraisal, of their passes and passing rate. Pointing out options a player could/should have made, leading to more ball retention.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:25 pm

It’s a good idea. We should also extend training sessions by 5 minutes to enable the players to do passing drills.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:26 pm

Bfc wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:22 pm
James's, the team in general.
Untinted Glasses, I agree with you on the long passing accuracy level. Some of the long balls, seem to be clearances to relieve the pressure on the defence. Others are meant as a pass to a player, which more often than not is misplaced, to an opponent. My thoughts are a Tech coach could look at videos of games and then later ask players to view them as a group, for appraisal, of their passes and passing rate. Pointing out options a player could/should have made, leading to more ball retention.
I honestly think it’s the style we choose to play. If we wish to play a more passing to feet brand of football then we would need to be set up differently that’s all it is in my opinion . These are international footballers and can pass and move, but only when in the right shape and being ordered to do so.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by bfcjg » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:01 pm

If professional footballers in one of Europe's top leagues need help to pass the ball then what the F have they been doing since joining a club at 16 ?

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:17 pm

They seem to pass it a lot better when they are playing a bit quicker. JBG commented on speeding things up second half and we were much smoother. This has happened in plenty of other games. The easy passes are sloppy passes.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:18 pm

I think they all need to do some leg weights, that will help with our long balls.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by superdimitri » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:23 pm

When you watch us play most of the time it looks to me like our regime is 95% fitness 5% set pieces. I used to think we spent more on set pieces but this year they've been poor.

To think that we actually would work on any passing or crossing has to be a joke. Clearly needs to be addressed.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:26 pm

Bfc wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Given the length of time Dyche has been manager, the players passing accuracy skills, haven't improved much. Game after game players give the ball away a lot to the opposition. Maybe a technical coach, working with the players on improving that basic skill, will lead to the team having more possession and be under less pressure, when defending, through misplaced passes, which can lead to bookings.
:lol: Deffo on a wind up

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by bobinho » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:38 pm

If they passed with fantastic accuracy stats, they wouldn't be playing for us.

They pass at the limit of their ability. They do everything at the limit of their ability.

Barcelona, PSG and Bayern Munich get the best of the best. Everybody else operates where they can.

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:42 pm

I would be more interested in us working on our Throw-ins actually - the fact we do not have a long-throw bamboozles me given our desire to cross ball into the area for everything else - Cheltenham caused havoc for Man City with a long throw. I will say there is much much more to throw-in coaching than just long throws and I have posted about it a few times previously

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:56 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:42 pm
I would be more interested in us working on our Throw-ins actually - the fact we do not have a long-throw bamboozles me given our desire to cross ball into the area for everything else - Cheltenham caused havoc for Man City with a long throw. I will say there is much much more to throw-in coaching than just long throws and I have posted about it a few times previously
I was going to suggest we need a throw in coach

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by DCWat » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:12 pm

Some of the quality of short passing is frustrating at times. The quality of opponent certainly makes a difference, there’s less time to pick the pass because of being closed down. There are also fewer options to pass to because our movement is more limited and the opposition also close down the options very quickly and read the game better.

That said, there are enough instances of poor passing, where there are options and time available, to expect it to be an area of improvement.

Perhaps the technical passing coach did a quick lesson at half time yesterday!

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Re: Technical passing coach

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:43 pm

we played some superb footy yesterday, when we can't hoof it we are a good side and create lots more chances
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