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All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:22 pm
by Papabendi
From the unbalanced line up to the tactics to some woeful displays (Rodriguez..what on earth has happened?) we did at least learn a few things. Not least one being that none of the U23 players (barring perhaps BPF) is good enough for us on this showing.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:26 pm
by DCWat
It shows we’ve a long way to go to get quality youth into the first team. That really was awful from start to finish.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:28 pm
by LoveCurryPies
How many did Vydra score?
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:35 pm
by Papabendi
LoveCurryPies I think you should really be looking at his strike partner tonight. Pretty sure that's the worst game he has ever played for Burnley and hope it remains so.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
by DCWat
Papabendi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:35 pm
LoveCurryPies I think you should really be looking at his strike partner tonight. Pretty sure that's the worst game he has ever played for Burnley and hope it remains so.
Jay’s looking a shadow of himself lately. Hopefully it’s a short term blip because with his quality, he really should be pushing for a starting place each week.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
by BleedingClaret
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:28 pm
How many did Vydra score?
Team was set up to fail
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Papabendi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:35 pm
LoveCurryPies I think you should really be looking at his strike partner tonight. Pretty sure that's the worst game he has ever played for Burnley and hope it remains so.
Exactly - Rodriguez was a passenger
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
by ksrclaret
I've had just about enough now.
I love this club but from the appalling tactics every week, the total lack of interest in playing any sort of football, the sickening attitude to cup competitions, the way we just cannot recruit a football player to the club, the fact we've been bought out by American's immediately plunging the club into tens of millions of debt at an eye-watering interest rate, and to top it all off we're all still stuck watching this shite from home for the foreseeable nearly 12 months into the pandemic...
I can feel my patience with it all wearing incredibly thin now.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
by dougcollins
So what is it that Stephens gives us? I forget. Must be my age. Or his.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:42 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
I've had just about enough now.
I love this club but from the appalling tactics every week, the total lack of interest in playing any sort of football, the sickening attitude to cup competitions, the way we just cannot recruit a football player to the club, the fact we've been bought out by American's immediately plunging the club into tens of millions of debt at an eye-watering interest rate, and to top it all off we're all still stuck watching this shite from home for the foreseeable nearly 12 months into the pandemic...
I can feel my patience with it all wearing incredibly thin now.
Second half against Brighton was a decent watch , I’d like more of that, Dyche was worked wonders with us, we need new blood for him to work with and evolve with, don’t throw the towel in my friend , it’s hard to watch sometimes but let’s get to safety this seasons and see what materialises UTC
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:46 pm
by Danieljwaterhouse
dougcollins wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
So what is it that Stephens gives us? I forget. Must be my age. Or his.
Been saying this since he signed, absolutely not a premier league footballer. So many wanted my head for this.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:48 pm
by BarnleyBurnsley
Do you think Brighton would take him back for free if we paid the taxi fare?
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:51 pm
by durhamclaret
Stephens has proved to be a terrible buy, 4 years too late, not a future with us I’m sorry to say.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 pm
by clansman
Stephens, drink water. Crouch , Walters
Common denominator is Sean.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:54 pm
by StTedsOB
Shocking from SD
Not sure why he thinks that side was good enough to beat a team who has just spent the last few years in the Premier League
Half of the side he picked tonight would struggle to get a game every week in the Championship.
Embarrassing to watch that
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:59 pm
by Prefeot
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:28 pm
How many did Vydra score?
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:02 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
StTedsOB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:54 pm
Shocking from SD
Not sure why he thinks that side was good enough to beat a team who has just spent the last few years in the Premier League
Half of the side he picked tonight would struggle to get a game every week in the Championship.
Embarrassing to watch that
Some of that Bournemouth starting eleven tonight gets in our best eleven. You could argue at least 4 possibly 5
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
by NickBFC
I feel a bit sorry for the young lads. With respect, all should be out on loan and nowhere near a Premier League squad at the moment. But poor window after window has dictated the utter mess this squad is in. We might scrape staying up, but we need a monumental rebuild. Grim.
As for Dyche, nobody is questioning the job he has done, but increasingly so he isn't doing himself any favours. It does feel as though things are very stale. I hope the new owners can somehow turn things around in the summer or I fear we'll be in for a very long 21/22 season.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
by Devils_Advocate
I think Dyche was unlucky tonight what with the Pieters mix up. But for that disruption we'd have probably played like Brazil and brushed Bournemouth aside
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:04 pm
by DomBFC1882
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:42 pm
Second half against Brighton was a decent watch , I’d like more of that, Dyche was worked wonders with us, we need new blood for him to work with and evolve with, don’t throw the towel in my friend , it’s hard to watch sometimes but let’s get to safety this seasons and see what materialises UTC
What a great response to someone with genuine concerns.
A few posters on here could learn a lot from you to be more respectful and non egotistical
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm
by Les Lawrence
I think we know what will materialize,,Tarkowski,Pope and McNeil,will be sold.Cant compete in transfer window,a contact extension for Kevin Long,sign Richard Keogh
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:12 pm
by Woonderbah
LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:28 pm
How many did Vydra score?
Lionel Messi would've struggled tonight with the ball sailing way over his head more often than not.
We looked League Two tonight, devoid of any skill or desire.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:32 pm
by Elizabeth
Yes , low point for Jay at the moment. Never thought he was a player who would need uplifting but he showed tonight that he does .
His heart’s in the town and football club and whatever it is that’s getting to him I hope he finds the answer soon
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:35 pm
by dougcollins
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
I think Dyche was unlucky tonight what with the Pieters mix up. But for that disruption we'd have probably played like Brazil and brushed Bournemouth aside
Putting aside your irony, I did wonder who exactly is responsible for that - I assume we have a club secretary who takes care of all that kind of admin stuff. But that really is a schoolboy error, pointed out by a BT employee apparently.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:44 pm
by jurek
All will be forgiven and forgotten if we pick up 5 or more points from our next 3 games.
But if we don't (and lose to Fulham per chance) then we'll still be looking over our
shoulders and wondering where we are going to pick up points.
We need Taylor, Brownhill and Wood back asap and hopefully firing on all cylinders.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:49 pm
by claretcarrot93
jurek wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:44 pm
All will be forgiven and forgotten if we pick up 5 or more points from our next 3 games.
But if we don't (and lose to Fulham per chance) then we'll still be looking over our
shoulders and wondering where we are going to pick up points.
We need Taylor, Brownhill and Wood back asap and hopefully firing on all cylinders.
Not from me. We will be safe anyway. One game away from the quarters and he picks that team? Whats the point. Blame is thoroughly on Dyche's shoulders tonight.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:58 pm
by beddie
I must admit I was expecting a strong starting eleven hoping we'd get a couple of goals ahead and then bring the second string on. I did at least expect us to start with Barnes along side Vydra.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:06 pm
by Longsidebogs
clansman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 pm
Stephens, drink water. Crouch , Walters
Common denominator is Sean.
This^^^^^^^^
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:12 pm
by LoveCurryPies
My comment earlier re Vydra drew a lot of comments. It was aimed more at those fans who were predicting he would score 2 or 3 tonight. The same people who call for him to replace Barnes or Wood. I haven’t seen any evidence he will ever score 2 or 3 in a match.
However, he works hard and gets stuck in, unlike Wood. But Wood is capable of several goals in a match.
I’m sorry if I’ve upset anyone. Just hugely disappointed. The match was lost before we stepped onto the pitch.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:15 pm
by nyclaret
Les Lawrence wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm
I think we know what will materialize,,Tarkowski,Pope and McNeil,will be sold.Cant compete in transfer window,a contact extension for Kevin Long,sign Richard Keogh
don't forget lansbury
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:15 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
I think Dyche was unlucky tonight what with the Pieters mix up. But for that disruption we'd have probably played like Brazil and brushed Bournemouth aside
Sorry, got to flag this one.
A £150m+ organisation who can’t ensure they know who is eligible to play? It’s amateur hour. A shambles. The poor kid, promising, but way short at present, didn’t have time to get his head right and wasn’t given many leaders around him to help him through.
After that balls up, he should have pulled Dunne and put Mee in alongside Glennon instead of making him the sacrificial lamb.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:17 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Has Jay and his missus had their first child yet? If so and hes up half the night this might explain things
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:17 pm
Has Jay and his missus had their first child yet? If so and hes up half the night this might explain things
That’s enough of that
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Who the hell do you think you are, bloody Jacky Weaver!!
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:23 pm
by Marney&Mee
beddie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:58 pm
I must admit I was expecting a strong starting eleven hoping we'd get a couple of goals ahead and then bring the second string on. I did at least expect us to start with Barnes along side Vydra.
He should have started with Tarks and Westwood. Worst case bring those 2 and Barnes on at ht. woeful fare tonight
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:34 pm
by groove
Let's be honest, the FA Cup is now as relevant as the Johnson's Paint Trophy. It's no longer the prestige competition it once was. Given a choice most clubs wouldn't enter it at all, bar the smaller clubs hoping for a big pay day against Liverpool reserves. Tonight's fixture wouldn't have attracted a 5 figure gate. I can remember every Cup Final, even Semi-finals from the 80's, but couldn't tell you who won it 2 years ago. It's a shame, but that's where we are. Dyche said pre-match that the league is always our priority. And there you go. UTC
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:39 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
NickBFC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
I feel a bit sorry for the young lads. With respect, all should be out on loan and nowhere near a Premier League squad at the moment. But poor window after window has dictated the utter mess this squad is in. We might scrape staying up, but we need a monumental rebuild. Grim.
As for Dyche, nobody is questioning the job he has done, but increasingly so he isn't doing himself any favours. It does feel as though things are very stale. I hope the new owners can somehow turn things around in the summer or I fear we'll be in for a very long 21/22 season.
Thing is ones who came in and played tonight are all now early 20’s and no disrespect to them but not one of them shows any real signs of being up to the standard required. This summers rebuilding job is going to be huge.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:44 pm
by jrgbfc
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:39 pm
Thing is ones who came in and played tonight are all now early 20’s and no disrespect to them but not one of them shows any real signs of being up to the standard required. This summers rebuilding job is going to be huge.
Felt a bit sorry for Glennon being thrown in at the last minute and up against a very good player in Brooks. But i agree the likes of Benson and Mumbongo aren't kids anymore and look nowhere near good enough.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:45 pm
by BOYSIE31
Let's be honest the club is in a bit of a mess at the moment so let's hope we scrape enough points to stop up
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:45 pm
by DomBFC1882
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:15 pm
Sorry, got to flag this one.
A £150m+ organisation who can’t ensure they know who is eligible to play? It’s amateur hour. A shambles. The poor kid, promising, but way short at present, didn’t have time to get his head right and wasn’t given many leaders around him to help him through.
After that balls up, he should have pulled Dunne and put Mee in alongside Glennon instead of making him the sacrificial lamb.
Agreed. Dyche has made 2 catastrophic errors there
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:47 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Dyche will be the first to tell you that he is still learning , as well as the players. It’s easy to chop and change managers all the time, but sticking with one will always have its ups and downs. We’ve had many more ups with Dyche than downs . Long may it continue!
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:56 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 pm
Who the hell do you think you are, bloody Jacky Weaver!!
I may of course be Jackie Weaver.
Handforth is after all not very far away
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:03 pm
by NewClaret
dougcollins wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:35 pm
Putting aside your irony, I did wonder who exactly is responsible for that - I assume we have a club secretary who takes care of all that kind of admin stuff. But that really is a schoolboy error, pointed out by a BT employee apparently.
What happened?? Saw he’d been pulled from the side but why?
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:10 pm
by Duffer_
There is a real risk that tonight's performance damages morale and an already fragile confidence. JBG, Jay, McNeil & Vydra all likely to be involved against Palace and none will feel better as a result of that run out. It is a really sad indictment, on our efforts and lack of investment in the last few windows, that our second eleven is League One standard in places.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:17 pm
by Devils_Advocate
NewClaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:03 pm
What happened?? Saw he’d been pulled from the side but why?
Apparently he told Dyche to get a new coat
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:28 pm
by houseboy
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:45 pm
Let's be honest the club is in a bit of a mess at the moment so let's hope we scrape enough points to stop up
Don’t worry bud, no scraping needed. We’ll stay up with ease, it’s not even on the cards. Things aren’t too good at times but if we keep averaging the points per game we have so far it’s just a matter of how high we finish. And our current points per game includes the first 8 games or so when half our team was injured.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:34 pm
by Boss Hogg
Dyche thought there were some good performances tonight. I’m scratching my head here.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:32 am
by Right_winger
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:34 pm
Dyche thought there were some good performances tonight. I’m scratching my head here.
Dyche tells porky pies like this often. People like Claret Tony believe everything Dyche says is the gospel truth though.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:43 am
by FCBurnley
The Pieters saga has to be a low point for the club. Amateurish at best.
Re: All wrong tonight
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:11 am
by Taffy on the wing
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
I've had just about enough now.
I love this club but from the appalling tactics every week, the total lack of interest in playing any sort of football, the sickening attitude to cup competitions, the way we just cannot recruit a football player to the club, the fact we've been bought out by American's immediately plunging the club into tens of millions of debt at an eye-watering interest rate, and to top it all off we're all still stuck watching this shite from home for the foreseeable nearly 12 months into the pandemic...
I can feel my patience with it all wearing incredibly thin now.
Don't let the door hit you in the Arse on the way out!