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Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:26 pm
by Elizabeth
I feel sorry for any fans tonight who feel cheated.
Suggestions that Dyche is sending a message to the club are wide of the mark as is criticism of his tactics.Everyone understands that survival in the PL is a priority but to select the team he did tonight with a chance of the last 8 at stake is hard to swallow
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm
by fidelcastro
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:26 pm
I feel sorry for any fans tonight who feel cheated.
Suggestions that Dyche is sending a message to the club are wide of the mark as is criticism of his tactics.Everyone understands that survival in the PL is a priority but to select the team he did tonight with a chance of the last 8 at stake is hard to swallow
No it isn't. Several players needed a rest tonight, as Saturday's game is more important, but it is fair to say that those who stepped in tonight did themselves no favours whatsoever.
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm
by DomBFC1882
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:26 pm
I feel sorry for any fans tonight who feel cheated.
Suggestions that Dyche is sending a message to the club are wide of the mark as is criticism of his tactics.Everyone understands that survival in the PL is a priority but to select the team he did tonight with a chance of the last 8 at stake is hard to swallow
100% Elizabeth.
To play like that and go down without a fight is disgraceful.
Yes the Premier league is important but crying out loud this cup run would have been the most exciting thing to happen in years should we have progressed.
Dyche needs to give his head a wobble after that. To name Pieters as a starter when he was suspended is a joke. There's a reason the big boys don't come in for him
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:30 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:26 pm
I feel sorry for any fans tonight who feel cheated.
Suggestions that Dyche is sending a message to the club are wide of the mark as is criticism of his tactics.Everyone understands that survival in the PL is a priority but to select the team he did tonight with a chance of the last 8 at stake is hard to swallow
Agreed.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:32 pm
by Dark Cloud
TBF to Dyche I understand why he selected the team he did tonight. The league HAS to be a priority and he also has to get the fringe players some game time so that if and when they're needed he knows whether they're up to it. He wasn't sending any messages except that looking after the fitness of several absolutely key players was his priority. The problem is what sits on the fringe is woefully inadequate and that's not really a surprise.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:32 pm
by clansman
Spot on Elizabeth. 8 changes unnecessary!
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:32 pm
by Wellsy1882
I despise the ****
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:33 pm
by CaptJohn
Just glad we couldn't go. At least we didn't waste any money on petrol, programmes and pies.
This was a case of the players feeling the same way as the boss. It's not a priority and we don't give a f**k.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:34 pm
by Elizabeth
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm
No it isn't. Several players needed a rest tonight, as Saturday's game is more important, but it is fair to say that those who stepped in tonight did themselves no favours whatsoever.
Of course , but surely it’s going too far to play Dunne and Long together as one example that Dyche put 2 fingers up.
Against Fulham he had Tarkowski in one of the central positions but not tonight
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:34 pm
by fidelcastro
Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:32 pm
I despise the ****
It's comments like this that remind me how daft I am to come on here after a defeat.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:36 pm
by taio
Dyche at fault as per the OP. Simple as that. Inexplicable team selection.
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:36 pm
by Dyched
DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm
100% Elizabeth.
To play like that and go down without a fight is disgraceful.
Yes the Premier league is important but crying out loud this cup run would have been the most exciting thing to happen in years should we have progressed.
Dyche needs to give his head a wobble after that. To name Pieters as a starter when he was suspended is a joke. There's a reason the big boys don't come in for him
Most exciting thing to happen in years? It wouldn’t even be the most exciting thing to happen in the last 2 weeks
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
by Grumps
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:26 pm
I feel sorry for any fans tonight who feel cheated.
Suggestions that Dyche is sending a message to the club are wide of the mark as is criticism of his tactics.Everyone understands that survival in the PL is a priority but to select the team he did tonight with a chance of the last 8 at stake is hard to swallow
I don't feel cheated... I would have done exactly the same.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
by BurnleyFC
It normally ruins my weekend when lose. It’s certainly going to ruin the rest of my week.
So, so disappointed to lose in that fashion.
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
by DomBFC1882
Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:36 pm
Most exciting thing to happen in years? It wouldn’t even be the most exciting thing to happen in the last 2 weeks
Yes it would. 1 game away from Wembley and 2 game away from winning it after that.
Beating Liverpool wouldn't even compare to getting to watch Burnley again at Wembley
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
by fidelcastro
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:34 pm
Of course , but surely it’s going too far to play Dunne and Long together as one example that Dyche put 2 fingers up.
Against Fulham he had Tarkowski in one of the central positions but not tonight
I guess all players need games, but I agree that Dunne and Long are a long way behind Mee and Tarks in terms of ability.
Yes, he could have played one or both of them if he wanted to, but if one of them had got injured, then the same people slating Dyche for this team selection would no doubt be slating him for playing first choice centre halves.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't sometimes.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:39 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
I normally stay well away from the board after a defeat because some of the overreacting is pathetic and embarrassing. However, tonight was a disgrace and a massive slap in the face to the fans. If you’re going to do that in a very winnable 5th round home tie, why on earth not just play the kids in the third round and get it over with.
I know its become all about the money now but at what point as fans do we remember what football is actually meant to be about?
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:40 pm
by Papabendi
DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm
100% Elizabeth.
To play like that and go down without a fight is disgraceful.
Yes the Premier league is important but crying out loud this cup run would have been the most exciting thing to happen in years should we have progressed.
Dyche needs to give his head a wobble after that. To name Pieters as a starter when he was suspended is a joke. There's a reason the big boys don't come in for him
Thought you wanted to give youth a chance, Dom
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:40 pm
by Elizabeth
It’s not like we are 8 points clear in the league and the bottom 3 are poor
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:40 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
I was looking forward to the game but my heart sank when I saw the team sheet.
It is obvious where our priorities lie but, disappointed.
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:41 pm
by Dyched
DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
Yes it would. 1 game away from Wembley and 2 game away from winning it after that.
Beating Liverpool wouldn't even compare to getting to watch Burnley again at Wembley
You wouldn’t actually be going to Wembley pal
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:42 pm
by Grumps
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
It normally ruins my weekend when lose. It’s certainly going to ruin the rest of my week.
So, so disappointed to lose in that fashion.
Get a grip....
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:42 pm
by taio
DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
Yes it would. 1 game away from Wembley and 2 game away from winning it after that.
Beating Liverpool wouldn't even compare to getting to watch Burnley again at Wembley
A good summary as to why many people will be annoyed at the team selection and how Dyche approached this game.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:46 pm
by TheOriginalLongsider
Just awful. Dyche miscalculated and the team that was on the pitch was woeful. Got to rest the players - well play a good side to get ahead then bring on subs. Bournemouth weren’t good either but we were worse.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:48 pm
by Tribesmen
Look we lost best to park it and move on
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm
by Danieljwaterhouse
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm
I guess all players need games, but I agree that Dunne and Long are a long way behind Mee and Tarks in terms of ability.
Yes, he could have played one or both of them if he wanted to, but if one of them had got injured, then the same people slating Dyche for this team selection would no doubt be slating him for playing first choice centre halves.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't sometimes.
No, you play at least one of your experienced CB’s. Simple as that. Huge error by Dyche.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:52 pm
by Grumps
Danieljwaterhouse wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm
No, you play at least one of your experienced CB’s. Simple as that. Huge error by Dyche.
It would have been an even bigger error had one played and got injured.....
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 pm
by Wokingclaret
Danieljwaterhouse wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm
No, you play at least one of your experienced CB’s. Simple as that. Huge error by Dyche.
We did "LONG" perhaps Jones could have started
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 pm
by fidelcastro
Danieljwaterhouse wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm
No, you play at least one of your experienced CB’s. Simple as that. Huge error by Dyche.
Would you still be saying that if Tarks had got injured and missed most of the rest of the season? I doubt it.
We should have signed Phil Jones instead!
EDIT: Great minds and all that, Woking!
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 pm
by DomBFC1882
Papabendi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:40 pm
Thought you wanted to give youth a chance, Dom
I do but I mean in terms of signings and have said that on many occasions. Mumbongo, Benson, Jimmy Dunne aren't good enough.
We need to be signing younger players who are good enough. The "younger" players we have aren't good enough and tonight's proof
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:54 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Picked the correct team for the game
We would have probably gone out in the next round to either , Of the Manchester clubs, Spurs, Leicester, Chelsea etc from which one of them will win the cup.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:55 pm
by CardyTheClaret
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm
No it isn't. Several players needed a rest tonight, as Saturday's game is more important, but it is fair to say that those who stepped in tonight did themselves no favours whatsoever.
The problem is that people like you who think that a game against Palace is more important than an FA Cup quarter final place is just about everything that is wrong with modern day football.
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:56 pm
by DomBFC1882
Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:41 pm
You wouldn’t actually be going to Wembley pal
Well done d**k head you're clever.
You skipped the point I see as you know playing at Wembley in a semi final would be much better than beating Liverpool, a depleted Liverpool too
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:56 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
The younger ones who played tonight weren’t the only ones not good enough tonight
The 2 up front and the 2 wide players were also very poor
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:56 pm
by joey13
Grumps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:52 pm
It would have been an even bigger error had one played and got injured.....
And if one gets injured against Palace ? Shouldn’t he have saved them for Fulham and West Brom by that logic ?
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:57 pm
by TheOriginalLongsider
CardyTheClaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:55 pm
The problem is that people like you who think that a game against Palace is more important than an FA Cup quarter final place is just about everything that is wrong with modern day football.
Agreed
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:57 pm
by fidelcastro
CardyTheClaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:55 pm
The problem is that people like you who think that a game against Palace is more important than an FA Cup quarter final place is just about everything that is wrong with modern day football.
God forbid I see us competing at the top level of English football as a priority!
What a terrible fan I am!
Re: Really tough in the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:57 pm
by DomBFC1882
Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:41 pm
You wouldn’t actually be going to Wembley pal
Ps. My post clearly says "watching us" and not going to Wembley so you're not the brightest bulb are you
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:58 pm
by DomBFC1882
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 pm
Would you still be saying that if Tarks had got injured and missed most of the rest of the season? I doubt it.
We should have signed Phil Jones instead!
EDIT: Great minds and all that, Woking!
He played an experienced centre back at Fulham though soooo
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:00 pm
by Grumps
joey13 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:56 pm
And if one gets injured against Palace ? Shouldn’t he have saved them for Fulham and West Brom by that logic ?
There's a choice tonight to rest them, no choice on Saturday. We only have two centre halfs, let's look after them, otherwise we're goosed
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:01 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Blimey, Dave, Freudian slip or what ?
If tonight was tough on the fans, it was a damn sight more tough on the fringe players who came in and let us down. A huge chance to perform, keep their place for the next round and who knows ?
They simply weren't good enough - you can see why Dyche protects the key first team players at all costs !
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
by bfcjg
Its not the defeat, as an old dart Claret I'm more than used to losing, it's the manner that's upsetting.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:05 pm
by NottsClaret
Avoided the pain of making the FA Cup final and not being able to go. Not even sure why they’re playing cups without fans, feels utterly pointless.
Overall, our 2nd XI are toss, but he was right to rest our first XI. Win on Saturday and nobody will care.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm
by Elizabeth
It’s ok bringing in the odd young player but to bring in three in Glennon, Dunne and Benson with the main support Stephens and Long destroys the youth development argument
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm
by dougcollins
DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:54 pm
Picked the correct team for the game
We would have probably gone out in the next round to either , Of the Manchester clubs, Spurs, Leicester, Chelsea etc from which one of them will win the cup.
But that's the thing - you don't know. On the day, I'll back us against anyone (but City).
We'll never know now.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:11 pm
by BurnleyFC
Win on Saturday and I’ll still care that we lost tonight.
I still care that we lost to Lincoln 4 years ago in the same fashion.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:11 pm
by Nonayforever
Dyche won't give two hoots for the fans.
He couldn't care less about the cup. Stay in the PL and keep picking up his wage.
And the bulls%@t about saving players is exactly that. Any player could get injured in any game at any time throughout the season.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:13 pm
by jrgbfc
At least we've got the excitement of grinding our way towards 40 points. Will we finish 16th or 17th? Real edge of the seat stuff.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:16 pm
by CardyTheClaret
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:57 pm
God forbid I see us competing at the top level of English football as a priority!
What a terrible fan I am!
Don’t be a dick, I know that’s difficult for you. So, by that, you’re saying that if Dyche had put a half decent team tonight then we would get automatically relegated? Get a grip.
Re: Really tough on the fans
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:16 pm
by Grumps
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:11 pm
Win on Saturday and I’ll still care that we lost tonight.
I still care that we lost to Lincoln 4 years ago in the same fashion.
Get a grip........ Good job you didn't see us against Wimbledon... Life wouldn't have been worth living