Its a harsh statement but, I cant anymore. I dont know if its the manager, players or the outgoing Chairman. I know its just football but this game we love doesn't half f**k with you mental wellbeing when its already f****d.

OK.

I stopped paying on cup games a while ago under Dyche, I suppose you just have to know what to expect.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:27 pm

OK.

I see your counselling skills being used to the full benefit again.

I'm in the same boat, have been for a while, I'm just sick of watching this predictable boring group of players. It feels like I've been watching the same team, same tactics, same rubbish in the Cups on repeat my whole life. These group of players have done great things for the club and give their all but i'd love a big shake up.

In the last 3o years one of the following have won it every year except Wigan and Portsmouth
Manchester City
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal
Leicester
Chelsea
Everton

One of them will win it this year
All it can do is help with some cash
Otherwise it can interfere with a packed League Programme where staying in the Premier League is vital especially with these new owners
We will have to find nearly £10 million to pay the players their yearly bonus for staying in the division by May

When did Leicester win it since 1990?

I said 30 yeRs

Flixton Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:29 pm

I see your counselling skills being used to the full benefit again.

Some 'fans' just need to grow some!

It boils down to one simple question,

Do we watch football for entertainment?

Of course that's a yes but we are far from entertaining at times and I can see why people feel this way. Thousands of pounds to watch dross is hard to justify at times, especially now after Covid has ruined everything we once knew.

Ps. Im well aware that it isn't costing us that now but the point is that it has before and will continue to do so

But there’s nowt else to do.

LowtonClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:25 pm

Its a harsh statement but, I cant anymore. I dont know if its the manager, players or the outgoing Chairman. I know its just football but this game we love doesn't half f**k with you mental wellbeing when its already f****d.

That you Matt ?? Thought you had a good game on Saturday

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 pm

In the last 3o years one of the following have won it every year except Wigan and Portsmouth
Manchester City
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal
Leicester
Chelsea
Everton

One of them will win it this year
All it can do is help with some cash
Otherwise it can interfere with a packed League Programme where staying in the Premier League is vital especially with these new owners
We will have to find nearly £10 million to pay the players their yearly bonus for staying in the division by May

I'm struggling to remember Leicester winning the FA cup?

I think it's a trick question. Leicester City have never won the FA Cup.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:37 pm

Some 'fans' just need to grow some!

And some fans might want to understand what might become the straw that broke the camels back. In todays problems not everyone is 100% and a defeat you could have shrugged previously may hurt more now!

I'd rather we spent that £1M from Stephens on a complete random fast player from Brazil. Stephens another boring player we are stuck with

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 pm

In the last 3o years one of the following have won it every year except Wigan and Portsmouth
Manchester City
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal
Leicester
Chelsea
Everton

One of them will win it this year
All it can do is help with some cash
Otherwise it can interfere with a packed League Programme where staying in the Premier League is vital especially with these new owners
We will have to find nearly £10 million to pay the players their yearly bonus for staying in the division by May

Who ******* cares who won it?

List those who tried and those who don't.

That's all I care about.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 pm

In the last 3o years one of the following have won it every year except Wigan and Portsmouth
Manchester City
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal
Leicester
Chelsea
Everton

One of them will win it this year
All it can do is help with some cash
Otherwise it can interfere with a packed League Programme where staying in the Premier League is vital especially with these new owners
We will have to find nearly £10 million to pay the players their yearly bonus for staying in the division by May

I would pay a small fortune to see us get beat by one of those teams in an exciting final.

Know exactly how you feel. There's no joy in it anymore for me. I'll find it very hard to just stop watching or following, but there's so much about what we are now that I just can't stomach.

To be fair, recruitment has been a joke whilst Garlick clearly lined up the exit. Combined with the pandemic let’s just keep behind the boys to stay in the prem........summer will be when new owners will have to back Dyche. We do what we do with what we’ve got.

Also I think football without fans is swaying my judgement, just isn't the same

I'll take 3 points at Palace any day of the week over a cup we are never going to win

I do wonder how the compensation is structured for the Manager. I'm assuming due to the riches of staying in the Prem, the Manager is on a lot to keep us in this league. As such he can quite happily stick two fingers up to us lot and say "I'm doing my job of managing this motley assembly of players and keeping the gravy train rolling for the owners!" Can't blame him TBH. He's doing a good job with what he's got, which let's face it isn't a lot when you compare us to our Prem neighbours.

I stand corrected Leicester have never won the FA Cup
We would never reach the final as we would have to beat 2 of the top 6 to get there ( that is my point)

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 pm

I'm in the same boat, have been for a while, I'm just sick of watching this predictable boring group of players. It feels like I've been watching the same team, same tactics, same rubbish in the Cups on repeat my whole life. These group of players have done great things for the club and give their all but i'd love a big shake up.

Quite possibly a shake up of playing personnel in the summer wether we stay up or not - whichever division we are in there has to be fresh blood. The new owners have to show something too, especially after no signings in January, otherwise they will be considered “all talk” by the fans I’d imagine.

Ultimately, to love football or a football club you need to be able to dream of future glory. For years, that meant regaining our place in the top division, and it was a hell of a journey to get here. Call me ungrateful, or complacent, or whatever, but now we've achieved that, a future of merely striving to stay in the division year-in, year-out, doesn't really do it for me anymore.

I know we're never going to win the league, but more than anything, I would love to see us play in the Cup Final. I don't know why, since this sort of things happens every season, but I feel that dream was killed tonight more than ever. Maybe I'd naively hoped that the change of ownership might bring a change of attitude, but then I suppose, more than ever, we need the Premier League booty.

I find this brutal, twice-yearly reminder that football is all about money rather than winning stuff does prompt me to ask "what's the point?".

LowtonClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:25 pm

Its a harsh statement but, I cant anymore. I dont know if its the manager, players or the outgoing Chairman. I know its just football but this game we love doesn't half f**k with you mental wellbeing when its already f****d.

Hang in their Lowt, remember your frustration is shared by thousands, you aren't alone.
The good thing about football is there is always the next game, and you never know.........

A win at Palace and all this pent up anger will be forgotten.

Stoke tried to adapt like that, did alright for a while and then capitulated - I’d hate to see us do that, I’d love to see us change slowly but surely and go at it in the cups as you rightly alluded to.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 pm

In the last 3o years one of the following have won it every year except Wigan and Portsmouth
Manchester City
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal
Leicester
Chelsea
Everton

Great, let's try and do a Wigan or Portsmouth.

In this current climate of super rich clubs
WE WILL NEVER WIN THE FA CUP

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:44 pm

I'll take 3 points at Palace any day of the week over a cup we are never going to win

That’s the attitude, looking forward to the guaranteed 3pts on Saturday

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:46 pm

I stand corrected Leicester have never won the FA Cup
We would never reach the final as we would have to beat 2 of the top 6 to get there ( that is my point)

You forgot we've beat Liverpool and Arsenal already this season? our record vs Leicester/Everton isn't bad, the only team who consistently beats us is Man CIty. Coyle took us so close to a cup final while in the Championship, dare to dream and all that.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:34 pm

In the last 3o years one of the following have won it every year except Wigan and Portsmouth
Manchester City
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal
Leicester
Chelsea
Everton

One of them will win it this year
All it can do is help with some cash
Otherwise it can interfere with a packed League Programme where staying in the Premier League is vital especially with these new owners
We will have to find nearly £10 million to pay the players their yearly bonus for staying in the division by May

We didn’t win the league cup under Owen Coyle and suffered the ultimate, unjust heartbreak at the end.

It was still ******* brilliant while it lasted, though.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:42 pm

I'd rather we spent that £1M from Stephens on a complete random fast player from Brazil. Stephens another boring player we are stuck with

Not often I agree with you, but on this you’re right.

Im’shitio would be a much better player

I get that people are very disappointed after a very poor showing tonight but let's keep some perspective. It was a cup game which isn't the club's priority. Also, just wonder how many of the fans who are saying they've had enough, were saying that after the Liverpool and Villa games! Keep the faith. UTC

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:44 pm

I'll take 3 points at Palace any day of the week over a cup we are never going to win

We’ll never win it if we don’t even f#cking try

Leisure wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:27 pm

OK.

Well that’s a helpful response Leisure

I’m the same now. Stopped the sports channels a few weeks ago, I found myself looking for things to do whilst the Burnley game was on in the background. Even the Liverpool win was painful to watch.

I check the scores but don’t get too worked up/excited by the result at all. The season definitely has a “doesn’t really count” feel about it now with the fans gone from the grounds for so long.

I’ll probably go back on once we’re allowed, but I can’t say I’m really looking forward to it.

It's hard to enthuse after tonight's fiasco.

The likes of Hull, Stoke, Palace and West Ham have all got to the final in the last 15 years or so. Even doing that would be a great achievement and provide a bit of excitement.
I guarantee it would be a lot more memorable in years to come than finishing 16th or 17th in the league.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:51 pm

In this current climate of super rich clubs
WE WILL NEVER WIN THE FA CUP

They said that about Leicester winning the league remember.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:51 pm

In this current climate of super rich clubs
WE WILL NEVER WIN THE FA CUP

Just because you put it in bold type doesn’t necessarily make it fact. I think most fans would just want us to have a go, as a cup run has more appeal than finishing 14th ahead of 16th.

BaronGarcia wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:56 pm

Well that’s a helpful response Leisure

See my post 2 posts further up from yours.

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:54 pm

We’ll never win it if we don’t even f#cking try

our first team won't beat Man City's 3rd team

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:58 pm

The likes of Hull, Stoke, Palace and West Ham have all got to the final in the last 15 years or so. Even doing that would be a great achievement and provide a bit of excitement.
I guarantee it would be a lot more memorable in years to come than finishing 16th or 17th in the league.

This

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:00 pm

our first team won't beat Man City's 3rd team

Funny that, I thought we played Bournemouth tonight... now I know it was Man City it doesn’t seem so bad...

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:00 pm

our first team won't beat Man City's 3rd team

City could get knocked out by Chelsea or United. A bit of luck in the draw and who knows what could happen?

Leisure wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:54 pm

I get that people are very disappointed after a very poor showing tonight but let's keep some perspective. It was a cup game which isn't the club's priority. Also, just wonder how many of the fans who are saying they've had enough, were saying that after the Liverpool and Villa games! Keep the faith. UTC

No they weren’t as you know. You are missing the point about the depth of disappointment in the side selected tonight

Been watching Burnley 69 years now and I'm probably too old to change, but it has crossed my mind during Covid "Do I really want to go back on'turf and watch this dross week in, week out?"

I'm not sure I know the answer.