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Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:55 pm
by bf2k
I thought I’d be the first to get a silly post in but actually this possibly isn’t that silly. He has to be held responsible for these utter pathetic performances.

Yet another game with no shots on target. Pathetic football. 1 change on the 85th minute. Yet again poor use of his bench.

How much longer can this continue?

Some will point to lack of choices but these are excuses. This game, Brighton, Bournemouth and Fulham were woeful and should have all been wins.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:56 pm
by box_of_frogs
Won’t be sorry if he leaves.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
by Spijed
box_of_frogs wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:56 pm
Won’t be sorry if he leaves.
So you'll be happy when we drop down the leagues?

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
by taio
Woeful. But Dyche has my support.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
by Dark Cloud
I'll defend him and say his bench was 2 keepers and 5 defenders due to several unfortunate injuries. But it stops there, because the players on the field were utterly dreadful!

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:58 pm
by Goobs
At least in the Brighton and Fulham games we created something. Today we desperately clung on at home against 10 men of one of the worst teams the EPL has seen in a long time. Nowhere near good enough regardless of being short on bench options.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:58 pm
by bobinho
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Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:58 pm
by JohnDearyMe
bf2k wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:55 pm
I thought I’d be the first to get a silly post in but actually this possibly isn’t that silly. He has to be held responsible for these utter pathetic performances.

Yet another game with no shots on target. Pathetic football. 1 change on the 85th minute. Yet again poor use of his bench.

How much longer can this continue?

Some will point to lack of choices but these are excuses. This game, Brighton, Bournemouth and Fulham were woeful and should have all been wins.
We played some great football against Brighton albeit only in the second half. Dire in the other games though

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:59 pm
by bobinho
box_of_frogs wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:56 pm
Won’t be sorry if he leaves.
You should be. Without him this lot would be in the same position but in a division below where we are now.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:59 pm
by Granny WeatherWax
We can talk about tactics all day, but poor performances are the main problem today. We’ve ballsed up every time it’s been promising.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:59 pm
by BurnleyFC
Doesn’t matter who the manager was today.

It was brain dead football by Westwood and his pals.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:00 pm
by jedi_master
Dyche isn’t the problem, the stale squad with no investment for 3 and a half years is. The blokes had no support and the fact we signed nobody in January with the squad in the state it is disgusts me.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
by ksrclaret
Let’s face it, we’re a horrible excuse for a football team under his leadership. We’ve got qualities in other areas, but games like today highlight just how poor our standards are when in possession of the football.

I hate watching the shite he serves up on occasions like today, and there are not exactly in the minority. What are we doing to do about it? Not a clue anymore. Recruitment doesn’t bring us much joy these days.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
by snapcrackleandpop
Spijed wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
So you'll be happy when we drop down the leagues?
How does that equate we lose Dyche and we go down??

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
by Steve1956
Dyche isn't the problem...move on.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
by Vegas Claret
He had nothing much on the bench
Not Dyche's fault that Westwood, McNeil, Taylor, Lowton, Vydra, Jay, Brownhill etc couldn't make simple 10 yard passes.

You will see better quality at Sunday league level on a windy day and bumpy pitch than we just watched in the PL

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
by snapcrackleandpop
Spijed wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
So you'll be happy when we drop down the leagues?
How does that equate, we lose Dyche and we go down??

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:02 pm
by Terrier
Due to the takeover we now need dyche more than ever, survive
this season and hopefully he may get the backing he deserves!

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:02 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Dont get what the problem is? We looked fluid, dynamic and full of ideas, plus to think we still have Dale Stephens to come back things looking real rosy

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:02 pm
by cockneyclaret
Spijed wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm
So you'll be happy when we drop down the leagues?
Tbh.. wouldn't bother me..
I enjoy the day out from getting a 7am train to some town I've never been, hitting the pubs at 1st doors and getting to the ground, going to the back to stand with the fans that want an atmosphere.

Is my enjoyment going to change because of what league we are in? Probably not.. I've found the premier League the least exciting.

As for the money side of things, we signed Dale Stephens this summer.. and that's being in the premier League!

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:02 pm
by buzzclarets79
I admire SD for all that he has done for our little club over the past years, but I wouldn’t be gutted if he left, the football is getting worse game by game, is the same mind numbing tactics and doesn’t change it when even Stevie Wonder can see it’s not working.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:02 pm
by DomBFC1882
Dreadful from Dyche and the players. Disgusting and embarrassing performance

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
As manager Dyche should take full responsibility for our results. Thankfuly we are two or three wins from safety yet again so should take full responsibility and credit for that.

Today was admittedly poor. But there we go.

Big window in summer.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm
by DomBFC1882
snapcrackleandpop wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
How does that equate, we lose Dyche and we go down??
Apparently Dyche is the only manager capable of keeping us in the Premier league.

Interesting if it wasn't complete nonsense

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm
by boatshed bill
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
He had nothing much on the bench
Not Dyche's fault that Westwood, McNeil, Taylor, Lowton, Vydra, Jay, Brownhill etc couldn't make simple 10 yard passes.

You will see better quality at Sunday league level on a windy day and bumpy pitch than we just watched in the PL
If the players can't pass it better than sunday footballers who would you blame other than the manager and his coaches?

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm
by taio
Dyche has to take responsibility but so do the players. Dreadful tactics and individual performances. But they deserve my loyalty after years of over achieving.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm
by DomBFC1882
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm
As manager Dyche should take full responsibility for our results. Thankfuly we are two or three wins from safety yet again so should take full responsibility and credit for that.

Today was admittedly poor. But there we go.

Big window in summer.
Its needed to be a big window for ages and we fail to deliver every time. This summer will be a disaster.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:05 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm
Let’s face it, we’re a horrible excuse for a football team under his leadership. We’ve got qualities in other areas, but games like today highlight just how poor our standards are when in possession of the football.

I hate watching the shite he serves up on occasions like today, and there are not exactly in the minority. What are we doing to do about it? Not a clue anymore. Recruitment doesn’t bring us much joy these days.
Well a weeks a long time in football eh.

Last week we were outstanding football and results wise.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:05 pm
by AlargeClaret
People tend to forget we’re a poor prem side that has had zero investment and is staffed mainly by mediocre journeymen hence why were in a relegation battle

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:05 pm
by bf2k
jedi_master wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:00 pm
Dyche isn’t the problem, the stale squad with no investment for 3 and a half years is. The blokes had no support and the fact we signed nobody in January with the squad in the state it is disgusts me.
I agree with you that he’s had little investment but as the manager he’s responsible for what we’ve just witnessed. Zero shots on target AGAIN. That’s the work he and his team do of the field.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:05 pm
by KBFC
What a difference a week makes. It was bad but think I'll reserve judgement on a man who has worked miracles with what he has. Needs investment and any manager would have struggled with what he had today. Furthermore it's not his fault if his team decide they can't pass 10 yards. They could last Saturday so unfortunately it's just one of them things. I'm confident Dyche will work on it and get it right but he definitely needs some money in summer.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
DomBFC1882 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm
Its needed to be a big window for ages and we fail to deliver every time. This summer will be a disaster.
But Dyche doesn’t fail to deliver. Another good season from Dyche with plenty more good than bad.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by ksrclaret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:05 pm
Well a weeks a long time in football eh.

Last week we were outstanding football and results wise.
Aye, but that is very much the exception this season.

Results wise has always been okay to good, performance wise has more often than not been absolutely shite.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by summitclaret
He will be chuffed tonight. He played for a point and got it, albeit a lucky one.

I'd have put Long on instead of Joel and stuck him up top.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by kentonclaret
Ben Mee pointed out in an article in The Guardian at the end of last season that our squad was woefully short of players and that it was far from encouraging to see so many youngsters filling our bench. But, here we are again!!

Instead of the club investing to try and rectify the position transfer windows closed with Dyche declaring that he was "happy with his squad".

Today, we were lucky to get a 0-0 and deserved nothing really.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by cockneyclaret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm
As manager Dyche should take full responsibility for our results. Thankfuly we are two or three wins from safety yet again so should take full responsibility and credit for that.

Today was admittedly poor. But there we go.

Big window in summer.
And you really believe we will get any one in lol

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
Aye, but that is very much the exception this season.

Results wise has always been okay to good, performance wise has more often than not has been absolutely shite.
And results are what matter. Even more so with no fans in attendance.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:07 pm
by ClaretTony
bf2k wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:55 pm
Yet again poor use of his bench.

And who pray did you want him to bring on?

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:07 pm
by Espia
Couldn't blame Dyche for some of the awful passing out there today. He'll be as frustrated and baffled as the next man. It's amazing we've lasted this long really with the size and quality of the squad we've got. My only criticism of Dyche is that he thinks that the squad is sufficient when everyone is fit , bar as he says an odd purchase here or there ! He's got to be kidding surely. Problem with him at the helm is that I don't think that he'll bring in the right players if he is trusted in spending any major investment from the owners. That's why I fear it may be better to replace him now. But then, what do I know. I'm just the guy in the corner of the (virtual) pub , mumbling into his pint.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:08 pm
by Top Claret
We looked like Palace did last weekend, not bloody interested.

Team for Bournemouth

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:08 pm
by DomBFC1882
Where are all the happy clappers now?

So much for resting players to get wins against the teams around us at home.

Disgusting we sacrificed such an opportunity and Dyche got that massively wrong. Where's pushpinpussy and his told you so???

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:08 pm
by ksrclaret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
And results are what matter. Even more so with no fans in attendance.
I’m old fashioned and like to see us play well.

I can just check the score at the end of the game if it’s just results that count and nothing else whatsoever.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:09 pm
by Bosscat
Some people really need to sit down for a couple of hours and think before going on a Footy forum
🤣🤣🤣

15 games in 6 weeks with a threadbare squad ... playing a team fighting for its PL survival in sh*te windy conditions...

I am not trying to make excuses ... it was a terrible game against a terrible team played in terrible conditions ... at least it wasn't totally a terrible result.

Get a grip, go have a beer, calm down ... and enjoy the fact we now have 8 days off to get a few bodies back on the team.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:10 pm
by ClaretTony
Espia wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:07 pm
Couldn't blame Dyche for some of the awful passing out there today.
Highlighted by Westwood who is the best passer of a ball we have. I've never seen the likes from him before.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:10 pm
by Wile E Coyote
this isn't anything to do with dyche. he is far and away the best manager we've had. he is respected throughout the game for his achievements here.
its unthinkable that we would lose him. hard to believe burnley fans regard him in a negative way.
we are playing football in the top league because of him.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:10 pm
by MACCA
Been like this for 8 years

Sh1te to watch
No plan B
Sets up not to lose

He will keep us up year on year, but he's a ginger haired Sam Allardyce, not wanting to dog Sam too much.

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:10 pm
by Leisure
boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm
If the players can't pass it better than sunday footballers who would you blame other than the manager and his coaches?
The players!

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:10 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:09 pm
Some people really need to sit down for a couple of hours and think before going on a Footy forum
🤣🤣🤣
Couldn't agree more

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:11 pm
by DomBFC1882
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:06 pm
But Dyche doesn’t fail to deliver. Another good season from Dyche with plenty more good than bad.
I said "we" meaning the club as a whole. If success is classed as playing like that today and against Fulham and staying in the Premier league then im sorry I'd rather we fail and play better football making it better to watch

Re: Dyche!

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:11 pm
by summitclaret
That performance has it's roots in the failure to bring in a right winger in the last 2 windows. Brownhill is not the answer against teams that are happy to sit back.