The PM has announced he expects ALL social contact rules and limits to be removed by June. Paving the way for fans to return to capacity this summer.

I wouldn't hold your breath

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:39 pm

I wouldn't hold your breath

Wish you would

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:36 pm

The PM has announced he expects ALL social contact rules and limits to be removed by June. Paving the way for fans to return to capacity this summer.

reduced capacity on the last game of the season - my own perspective is that given it will cost clubs money to admit so few fans and there may be some significant games in terms of Europe and relegation the Premier League should say no thank you

10,000 or quarter of the capacity, whichever is smallest, from the 17th May

Our last home is currently scheduled 15th May so wouldn’t effect us, but personally think it’s daft to even consider it for just one game.

We’ll have waited 15mths, then would have to wait another 3mths for next season

Grumps wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 pm

Wish you would

Grumps wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 pm

Wish you would

???

The last game is a perfect opportunity to test people before and after the games. Collect the data and to see if football matches are safe to resume with fans when the new season starts.

The Premier League nor clubs are in any position to refuse fans if the government gives the go ahead.

Pubs opening 17th May with the two households rule, or rule of six.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:44 pm

The last game is a perfect opportunity to test people before and after the games. Collect the data and to see if football matches are safe to resume with fans when the new season starts.

The Premier League nor clubs are in any position to refuse fans if the government gives the go ahead.

A bit like Covid Guinea Pigs.

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:44 pm

???

Try being positive for once, life's a lot easier if you do

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:44 pm

The last game is a perfect opportunity to test people before and after the games. Collect the data and to see if football matches are safe to resume with fans when the new season starts.

The Premier League nor clubs are in any position to refuse fans if the government gives the go ahead.

actually they are in a position to - they may not choose to but there is a significant advantage on offer here for some home teams, if certain poisons have not been determined, not least being the merit money

conyoviejo wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:46 pm

A bit like Covid Guinea Pigs.

If you like.

But it’s better to do it when there’s only one game left than when they might be 2 games with a week in the new season and then a month down the line going “Oh, that was a bad idea, Lockdown again”.

Grumps wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:46 pm

Try being positive for once, life's a lot easier if you do

I'm being realistic given the pandemic has been going on over 12 months. Your moronic and rude reply says a lot about you.

Optimism changes nothing. We were hopeful this time last year that things would be better for June and they weren't so I don't think I'm being hugely pessimistic.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:44 pm

The last game is a perfect opportunity to test people before and after the games. Collect the data and to see if football matches are safe to resume with fans when the new season starts.

The Premier League nor clubs are in any position to refuse fans if the government gives the go ahead.

The summer friendlies might be a better option,

The Euros and play-offs are the best option to conduct such tests

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:49 pm

The summer friendlies might be a better option,

More than likely yes. I think it would be absolutely wrong to stop people from going if they legally can do again. Results, positions, money doesn’t matter. Let’s get the ball rolling in getting back to normal.

Unfair to let any fans in for the final games. Massive advantage to home teams. What if we need to get something from the SU game and their fans get to cheer them on. The fans played a massive role in the Orient win.

I'd get the threat to sue in now and put a stop to it

Fans to return? Does that mean I have to go on and watch again?

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:39 pm

I wouldn't hold your breath

I would, there's summut catching!

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:44 pm

The last game is a perfect opportunity to test people before and after the games. Collect the data and to see if football matches are safe to resume with fans when the new season starts.

The Premier League nor clubs are in any position to refuse fans if the government gives the go ahead.

Spot on

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:52 pm

More than likely yes. I think it would be absolutely wrong to stop people from going if they legally can do again. Results, positions, money doesn’t matter. Let’s get the ball rolling in getting back to normal.

I’d sooner sheff Utd fans attend against us even if it works against us in that game this season. Bigger picture and all that.

summitclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:54 pm

Unfair to let any fans in for the final games. Massive advantage to home teams. What if we need to get something from the SU game and their fans get to cheer them on. The fans played a massive role in the Orient win.

I'd get the threat to sue in now and put a stop to it

Let’s forget about advantages and the results.

If sheff Utd have 7,500 on and that gives us a safe and reasonable way of measuring how we can scale that up ahead of next season I’m all for it.

Even if that 7500 gives sheff Utd a boost (which having attended the turf with less than that on I very much doubt - often the opposite) then there’s a much bigger and more important point here.

If all goes to plan imagine getting a home game first up in August with a full house on the Turf.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:34 pm

If all goes to plan imagine getting a home game first up in August with a full house on the Turf.

I doubt I’m the only one but I think I’d cry

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:22 pm

I’d sooner sheff Utd fans attend against us even if it works against us in that game this season. Bigger picture and all that.

Exactly.

Even the idea that Sheffield United can have 25% of fans in the stadium for 90 minutes out of 3,420 minutes would somehow be disadvantageous to our season is quite laughable.

I think even if you asked our players, they would love fans back in even if they weren't ours and im sure they've said as much before

Sounds positive. I wonder if we’ll see some season ticket news soon?

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:39 pm

Exactly.

Even the idea that Sheffield United can have 25% of fans in the stadium for 90 minutes out of 3,420 minutes would somehow be disadvantageous to our season is quite laughable.

people said similar when I suggested that the Europa League qualifiers would have a negative effect on our ability in the League. The advantage is a reality, just compare their form with and without fans, we just have to make sure it is of no consequence to us before then

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:46 pm

people said similar when I suggested that the Europa League qualifiers would have a negative effect on our ability in the League. The advantage is a reality, just compare there form with and without fans, we just have to make sure it is of no consequence to us before then

If we're not safe before then, then we don't deserve to stay up anyway

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:48 pm

If we're not safe before then, then we don't deserve to stay up anyway

that is why the season has 38 games it is about where you are after 38 not 37 games

what about 1987 it took that last game which we were fortunate enough to have at home and the fans made a hell of a difference as has already been mentioned

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:46 pm

people said similar when I suggested that the Europa League qualifiers would have a negative effect on our ability in the League. The advantage is a reality, just compare there form with and without fans, we just have to make sure it is of no consequence to us before then

That’s a totally different thing. One has a direct influence on the players and their fitness, performances etc. One, whilst it can have an influence on the players performance, those players would have had 37 games prior to put points on the board.

Let’s also not forget Sheffield United would have more than likely been relegated 5 or 6 games before we play. I wouldn’t be expecting a carnival like atmosphere.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:51 pm

that is why the season has 38 games it is about where you are after 38 not 37 games

what about 1987 it took that last game which we were fortunate enough to have at home and the fans made a hell of a difference as has already been mentioned

Agreed but look at where we are now and what we realistically need to survive. 2 wins max out of 13? As I say if we don't get that or the equivalent then we don't deserve to stay up

May 17th could be inbetween the first and second leg of the playoffs.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:47 pm

actually they are in a position to - they may not choose to but there is a significant advantage on offer here for some home teams, if certain poisons have not been determined, not least being the merit money

Hi CP, we know you post an enormous amount of valuable information on the MMT thread. Is there a subject I've missed that we all need to know about

I do hope I get to see Dyche in the Burnley dugout again. Would be sad if he left without a proper goodbye.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:39 pm

Exactly.

Even the idea that Sheffield United can have 25% of fans in the stadium for 90 minutes out of 3,420 minutes would somehow be disadvantageous to our season is quite laughable.

You can't be serious. So you would be happy if we went down, just to test something that could be tested in many other ways before the new season starts?

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:45 pm

Sounds positive. I wonder if we’ll see some season ticket news soon?

As I have continued with my dd I know I will have finished paying for my 2021/22 ticket by the end of next month

Sales to those whose seat rights are retained after they took the refund will need to be announce reasonably soon if they are to have a dd option attached to them with, more than likely, a fairly brief renewal timetable, and sales to new purchasers will probably be phased soon after that as there are only a limited number of 'vacant' seats available until those with retained seat rights have indicated their take-up or otherwise.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:46 pm

people said similar when I suggested that the Europa League qualifiers would have a negative effect on our ability in the League. The advantage is a reality, just compare their form with and without fans, we just have to make sure it is of no consequence to us before then

Luckily we have almost 40 points to play for before that game and we only need about 9.

Not that home advantage had much of a benefit to Man Utd in the last away game I attended. Or Southampton in the last game we played at in front of a crowd.

Or at the Emirates when we played in front of fans this season.

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:38 pm

I doubt I’m the only one but I think I’d cry

You definitely won't be the only one, I'm tearing up just thinking about it

summitclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:07 pm

You can't be serious. So you would be happy if we went down, just to test something that could be tested in many other ways before the new season starts?

At the moment off the dates announced football fans would legally be allowed in stadiums at reduced capacity. So yes, I am serious. Why shouldn’t they be allowed? Because we might get relegated? So what? We’d have had 37 games before that to get enough points on the board.

A quarter full Bramall Lane to blame for our relegation? Deary me.

Dyched wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:11 pm

At the moment off the dates announced football fans would legally be allowed in stadiums at reduced capacity. So yes, I am serious. Why shouldn’t they be allowed? Because we might get relegated? So what? We’d have had 37 games before that to get enough points on the board.

A quarter full Bramall Lane to blame for our relegation? Deary me.

Where did I say it would be to blame for any relegation?

Do you remember the atmosphere on the Turf for the last game of the 09/10 season? We were already down, but it was one of the best we have ever had.

Please don't turn this thread into an argument.

This is the single best piece of news we've had in football for 12 months. I hope and pray with everything I've got that this happens.

Wouldn't it be better to get this damn virus, including mutations, completely under control first?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:32 pm

Wouldn't it be better to get this damn virus, including mutations, completely under control first?

Will that ever happen? The virus will be out there for ever. The current vaccines, at 85-91%, are almost twice as effective in preventing moderate infection than the influenza vaccines, 40-60%, are. As long as it is only causing mild or asymptomatic illness then society can live with it. Just like we do with Rhinovirus, influenza and various others.

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:23 pm

Will that ever happen? The virus will be out there for ever. The current vaccines, at 85-91%, are almost twice as effective in preventing moderate infection than the influenza vaccines, 40-60%, are. As long as it is only causing mild or asymptomatic illness then society can live with it. Just like we do with Rhinovirus, influenza and various others.

I think thats basically what boatshedbill said

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:23 pm

Will that ever happen? The virus will be out there for ever. The current vaccines, at 85-91%, are almost twice as effective in preventing moderate infection than the influenza vaccines, 40-60%, are. As long as it is only causing mild or asymptomatic illness then society can live with it. Just like we do with Rhinovirus, influenza and various others.

Absolutely nailed it.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:25 pm

I think thats basically what boatshedbill said

I must have misunderstood what he said then as I had taken him to be saying we need to eradicate the virus and all variants 1st.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:30 pm

Please don't turn this thread into an argument.

This is the single best piece of news we've had in football for 12 months. I hope and pray with everything I've got that this happens.

Absolutely. No doubt negativity and bitchyness will get another positive thread closed.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:32 pm

Wouldn't it be better to get this damn virus, including mutations, completely under control first?

And that’s what we are doing