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Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:04 pm

Left the club to pursue other opportunities, and club will now search for a new CEO

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by djemba-djemba » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:06 pm

I see Al is filling the void to save a few quid on the wages..

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by claret2018 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:08 pm

Sounds like he’s been pushed. Is this the Americans wanting to put their own man in?

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Post by burnmark » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm

There seems to be quite a few other noises about at the minute with certain other roles in the club.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm

Good news
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Post by boyyanno » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm
Good news
This quote says it all!
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Post by Lord_Bob » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:19 pm

Bring back Baldwin!
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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by Denno97 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:22 pm

Checketts would fit the role.

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Post by ewanrob » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm
Good news
Not keen Tony

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm
Good news
Was he not up to the job? I can’t say I was convinced from the little I heard from him m, whilst in that particular role.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm

burnmark wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:10 pm
There seems to be quite a few other noises about at the minute with certain other roles in the club.
Do divulge?

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Post by ChristheViking » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm

Clearly a new regime broom sweeping. Not sure how much anyone could do in 12 months with a global pandemic on.

Presumably they have their man in line and it will be interesting to see what the fresh set of eyes does.

My guess is that events on the field are very much going to shape events off it.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by Murger » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm

Rigg next hopefully.
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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm
Not keen Tony
Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm
Was he not up to the job? I can’t say I was convinced from the little I heard from him m, whilst in that particular role.
Absolutely stunned he ever got the job in the first place as were a lot of people (including directors at the football club). He'd no experience for the role, he'd previously worked in charities but I found him anything but personable more so when you've dealt, in the previous decade, with people like Paul Fletcher, Lee Hoos and Dave Baldwin, three with fantastic, if very different, personalities.
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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:28 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm
Rigg next hopefully.
A few weeks ago I heard three names Murger of people whose jobs were less secure than anyone else's. Rigg's was one, one's gone this afternoon and I believe the third one has already left although nothing has been said.
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Post by FCBurnley » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pm

It’s weird. I live thousands of miles away from Burnley but keep getting bad vibes that not all is well at the club. Hope I am wrong

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by Papabendi » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm

This one looked pretty inevitable to me.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:28 pm
A few weeks ago I heard three names Murger of people whose jobs were less secure than anyone else's. Rigg's was one, one's gone this afternoon and I believe the third one has already left although nothing has been said.
Very interesting thanks Tony.

Do you think Rigg will be let go? And if so, will we replace him with a like for like or a different strategy?

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by Murger » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm
Very interesting thanks Tony.

Do you think Rigg will be let go? And if so, will we replace him with a like for like or a different strategy?
The whole behind the scenes needs bringing into the 21st century.
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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm
This one looked pretty inevitable to me.
Big news here on UTC - CT & Papabendi agreeing on something.

Have to say I wasn't expecting it today although Alan Pace is back this week having been in the USA for past few weeks.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by Leisure » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pm
It’s weird. I live thousands of miles away from Burnley but keep getting bad vibes that not all is well at the club. Hope I am wrong
Moving out deadwood would seem like a positive move to me and hopefully the club will be all the better for it. So good vibes.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:33 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm
The whole behind the scenes needs bringing into the 21st century.
You can hardly disagree with that comment , the last few years in the transfer window alone have been abysmal and if we survive this season we’ve pushed our luck to the absolute limits in my opinion
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Post by ewanrob » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:27 pm
Absolutely stunned he ever got the job in the first place as were a lot of people (including directors at the football club. He'd no experience for the role, he'd previously worked in charities but I found him anything but personable more so when you've dealt, in the previous decade, with people like Paul Fletcher, Lee Hoos and Dave Baldwin, three with fantastic, if very different, personalities.
Wonder what the Hierachy thought when he said we would buy players in January.....or was he instructed to say that to take the heat off I wonder.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by claretdj » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm

He lost me with his comment on the £15 ppv charge. He stated that he would pay it because he is a football fan! Totally missing the point of the pure greed by tv companies trying to rip fans off. @ least fans of most clubs boycotted this charge & gave to the local foodbanks instead, which inturn made the broadcasters see sense in scrapping it.
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Post by DCWat » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm

Bring Dave back!!
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Post by burnmark » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:24 pm
Do divulge?
Possibly the same ‘third person’ Claret Tony is referring to. Wouldn’t be fair to mention names until common knowledge though.

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:36 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:12 pm
This quote says it all!
Just what I was thinking-is he off to Huddersfield :D
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Post by claretburns » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:36 pm

Better to make the changes now and get the right people in to fit with the new owners ideas before we hit a very pivotal summer period.
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Post by djemba-djemba » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:37 pm

Leisure wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm
Moving out deadwood would seem like a positive move to me and hopefully the club will be all the better for it. So good vibes.
Let’s hope for a similar attitude with the playing staff during the summer.

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Post by Papabendi » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:38 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm
The whole behind the scenes needs bringing into the 21st century.
It certainly needs fresh ideas.

Particularly in player recruitment. Someone from Brentford with a detailed knowledge of the best players in the lower leagues would be good. Who knows next time we might not miss out on the next Toney.

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Post by ChristheViking » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm

They'll have their reasons but what realistically has he NOT done in the last 12 months that could have been expected given the circumstances??

Rigg however is a different story. There is absolutely no point in having a Technical Director to identify talent and recruit if the first team isn't part of that process. Whether it's for budget or competency reasons it's hard to make a case for him staying given the absymal windows we have had.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:36 pm
Just what I was thinking-is he off to Huddersfield :D
One place he won't be going.

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm
The whole behind the scenes needs bringing into the 21st century.
I dont think we should be pushing CT for news. in order not to compromise his position and relationship with the club. I am sure everything wil be revealed soon

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Post by Marple Claret » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm

Have you thought of applying Tony?

Not sure anyone knows more than you about Burnley, and your relationships with other CEOs are clearly an advantage?

On the downside it might mean you’d need to jack this in.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:41 pm

claretdj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm
He lost me with his comment on the £15 ppv charge. He stated that he would pay it because he is a football fan! Totally missing the point of the pure greed by tv companies trying to rip fans off. @ least fans of most clubs boycotted this charge & gave to the local foodbanks instead, which inturn made the broadcasters see sense in scrapping it.
He's not a football fan, that's the problem. I said to someone at the time that he didn't understand football fans and the response I got was that he didn't understand football. While others, including managers like Bilic, Mourinho even and Bruce were condemning PPV he made that comment.

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Post by Zlatan » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm
The whole behind the scenes needs bringing into the 21st century.
careful now, lets start with the 20th Century first... dont rush these things...!


;)
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Post by DCWat » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pm

If Rigg is one on the hit list, I wonder what if any input Dyche has had. Was the good friends spiel when he joined all for the media, or was it genuine?

It certainly doesn’t appear to have been a partnership that has proven to be fruitful, unless a lot has gone on behind the scenes that hasn’t come to light.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:45 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:38 pm
It certainly needs fresh ideas.

Particularly in player recruitment. Someone from Brentford with a detailed knowledge of the best players in the lower leagues would be good. Who knows next time we might not miss out on the next Toney.
Given that Dyche has just said the following about the summer transfer window, I doubt the new owners are prioritising player recruitment.

“We do some background planning of course, but that is not the first concern for the chairmen and the people who are involved”
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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:46 pm

Marple Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm
Have you thought of applying Tony?

Not sure anyone knows more than you about Burnley, and your relationships with other CEOs are clearly an advantage?

On the downside it might mean you’d need to jack this in.
I think the only Tony Scholes who would be in with a chance of that job is man I used to refer to as The Imposter who is currently at Stoke.

In truth I wouldn't know where to start with a CEO job, it's way beyond me. Relationship with other CEOs - I would challenge anyone not to get on well with such as Dave Edmondson and Paul Fletcher. Lee Hoos was difficult at first but he went up so much in my estimation when we had our final meeting with him because he brought us all Krispy Kreme Donuts. Seriously though, had my moments with Lee but generally got on well with him. Dave Baldwin was totally different, the best CEO we've had in my view in terms of supporter engagement. He was everything the Bradford City fans told me he would be.

But this job is not all about supporter engagement, and it's certainly not being able to get on with me and my tantrums. I just hope we get someone who is good for the club as I believe, in different ways, the four previous ones were.

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Post by djemba-djemba » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:46 pm

Marple Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm
Have you thought of applying Tony?

Not sure anyone knows more than you about Burnley, and your relationships with other CEOs are clearly an advantage?

On the downside it might mean you’d need to jack this in.
Good grief.

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Post by BenWickes » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:48 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pm
It’s weird. I live thousands of miles away from Burnley but keep getting bad vibes that not all is well at the club. Hope I am wrong
I wouldn't worry too much. As I said on the ALK thread. There'd be restructuring including Barnfield and around the club. Hart still being here is the surprise for me. I expected him gone mid January. That said. As mentioned above. I'm surprised he ever got the job.
I think Ian Butterworth is on his way out as well.
There'll be some more casualties behind the scenes as they streamline, improve (or strive to) and sort the wheat from the chaff.

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Post by Sproggy » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:49 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm
Do you think Rigg will be let go? And if so, will we replace him with a like for like or a different strategy?
Initially, Rigg is going to be replaced by a yucca plant. We'll see if that can hold the fort until the end of the season.
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Post by Grumps » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:49 pm

Marple Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm
Have you thought of applying Tony?

Not sure anyone knows more than you about Burnley, and your relationships with other CEOs are clearly an advantage?

On the downside it might mean you’d need to jack this in.
I had similar relationships with the CEO's mentioned...... Can I have the job? :lol:
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Post by Denno97 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:53 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:48 pm
I wouldn't worry too much. As I said on the ALK thread. There'd be restructuring including Barnfield and around the club. Hart still being here is the surprise for me. I expected him gone mid January. That said. As mentioned above. I'm surprised he ever got the job.
I think Ian Butterworth is on his way out as well.
There'll be some more casualties behind the scenes as they streamline, improve (or strive to) and sort the wheat from the chaff.
Mike Rigg next?

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:56 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:29 pm
It’s weird. I live thousands of miles away from Burnley but keep getting bad vibes that not all is well at the club. Hope I am wrong
New people come in and have different ideas, which means clearing out the people who don't fit their vision, I wouldn't be worried by this news at all. Hart was a yes man for Garlick. Hopefully Rigg is next to follow, I'd bet Butterworth's job will be in serious danger too. I've also never warmed to Daz Bentley, maybe it's just me though.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by warksclaret » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:56 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pm
If Rigg is one on the hit list, I wonder what if any input Dyche has had. Was the good friends spiel when he joined all for the media, or was it genuine?

It certainly doesn’t appear to have been a partnership that has proven to be fruitful, unless a lot has gone on behind the scenes that hasn’t come to light.
You need to just look at SD's record. He wins praise from all the media, pundits and other managers of what he has achieved with literally no money every day of the week
Then I would ask that you google for the press release issued by BFC and Mike Garlick when Rigg joined and how his appointment would revolutionise how we were going to attract the right players from all over the world. So who have we secured since Rigg's joined 3 years ago.. The list is quite small and the most notable names include Rodriguez (who may have joined anyway) and Brownhill. THen you look at our bench v Spurs and wonder why the club has tolerated this situation. Surprised its taken this long

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by DCWat » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:01 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:56 pm
You need to just look at SD's record. He wins praise from all the media, pundits and other managers of what he has achieved with literally no money every day of the week
Then I would ask that you google for the press release issued by BFC and Mike Garlick when Rigg joined and how his appointment would revolutionise how we were going to attract the right players from all over the world. So who have we secured since Rigg's joined 3 years ago.. The list is quite small and the most notable names include Rodriguez (who may have joined anyway) and Brownhill. THen you look at our bench v Spurs and wonder why the club has tolerated this situation. Surprised its taken this long
There are a lot of ifs and buts in there.

If Rigg idetidied players, was it his fault that the didn’t get over the line.

If Rigg identified players, was it Dyche saying no to them?
We’ve certainly heard that negotiations were down to Garlick.

I’m not dissolving Rigg of blame here, I’m just sure there must be far more to it than him simply not identifying players or the right players.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:04 pm

Butterworth is International recruitment here, he's absolutely screwed. The rest of the recruitment team will probably be replaced by this data driven PC stuff to save on wages, we have a large debt to pay, costs have to be cut somewhere.

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by NewClaret » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm
Big news here on UTC - CT & Papabendi agreeing on something.

Have to say I wasn't expecting it today although Alan Pace is back this week having been in the USA for past few weeks.
Any idea whether the trip to US was a business or pleasure, CT?

I’m certainly hoping it was to sign up some new investors post-transaction, not to catch up with family and friends.

On the Hart stuff, pretty inevitable given how silent he’s been in recent months. Hope they bring in someone experienced, or Checketts!

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Re: Neil Hart - Burnley FC CEO - Departs

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:11 pm

Rigg's role has been made redundant by the club's refusal to strengthen the squad over recent Transfer Windows

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