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Tammy Abraham

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:55 pm

Apparently he is available this summer. Tuchel doesn’t seem to think he is part of there future plans.

Would you be interested in Burnley taking him and could we afford him.

Rumoured to have wages of 40k a week.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pm

Id be astonished if he's willing to take £40k a week if and when he moves

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:04 pm

He will probably be Vardy’s replacement.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by gtclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:06 pm

We won't be in the running, not a chance, unless the new directors are prepared to invest, and from what AP is saying it does not look likely. We will spend the money we get from Tarky , Gibson any any other sales if we're lucky. I really hope I'm wrong and if we survive AP & Co smell the coffee and do what's required

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:07 pm

West Ham were being linked to him earlier in the week

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:14 pm

I’ve never really “got” him, to be honest. Looks quite cumbersome and leggy.

Wouldn’t be my first choice as I’d prefer forwards who a little more nimble, but I realise beggars aren’t choosers. Not that we would afford him, mind.
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:29 pm

If West Ham can come up with the money I’d be surprised if he leaves London.
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:39 pm

23 year old, tall strong & mobile, 74 league goals in 165 games including 21 in 54 for Chelsea in the last two seasons and people think we have a chance of signing him.

Dare to dream cos if we got him that would be one hell of a coup

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by warksclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:47 pm

Can see him maybe at Villa-he did well for them in the year they got promoted. THey have enough cash to have him on the bench and to provide competition for Watkins

He would be a good assett for us having said that
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by beddie » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:14 pm

Yes I'd definitely have him, but it's not going to happen. Once another club shows an interest it almost puts us out of the running.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:18 pm

Hes shite and completely overrated. Poor in the air and not much better on the ground with a poor first touch
Like Hudson-Odyi a media darling hyped way beyond his actual talent
Tuchel seems a good judge of a player not taken in by alleged reputations.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by dandeclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:23 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:18 pm
Hes shite and completely overrated. Poor in the air and not much better on the ground with a poor first touch
Like Hudson-Odyi a media darling hyped way beyond his actual talent
Tuchel seems a good judge of a player not taken in by alleged reputations.
I can't help but fear, that if you're judging Tammy Abraham, a young, pretty much 1 goal per 2 league games striker, as Shite, then there's going to be very little joy for you in any future Burnley signing, the vast majority of whim will be below his ability level.
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:23 pm

I’d love to have him here, these are the exact calibre of targets we should be looking to attract & if need be going toe to toe with other rival clubs ensuring the signatures are secured.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Jamesy » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:32 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:23 pm
I can't help but fear, that if you're judging Tammy Abraham, a young, pretty much 1 goal per 2 league games striker, as Shite, then there's going to be very little joy for you in any future Burnley signing, the vast majority of whim will be below his ability level.
TBH I think Lampard keeping selecting Abraham contributed to him losing his job. Yes he isn’t shite but he is awkward and gangly and misses far too many chances and is far from the finished article. Doubtful if he would come up North anyway after bright lights of London. Villa was far enough up north for him. West Ham, Palace, Fulham type of signing.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:05 pm

if Tuchel has written him off after less than a couple of months then something is wrong......
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by bobinho » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:17 pm

Not for me thanks... never rated him that highly. If we were championship, yeah go on then let’s have a look at him. £25k a week...

Loads of hype... not much else to my eyes. Only thing he has on his side at this level is youth.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Dyched » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm

It’s alright having a 1 in 2 record when you’re grabbing the vital goal in games against other top teams.

The simple fact is, he doesn’t. He scores against lower teams in 2/3/4 goal wins. The only vital goal he’s scored is vs Barnsley in the cup.

That’s fine if your at a lower team but top teams need match winners, too teams need forwards to score goals to win leagues and trophies. He’s far from that.

For us he’d be great, but not good enough for Chelsea.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:31 pm

I wouldn't pick him for Chelsea who have access to world class talent but he would be alright here, if he learnt how to play our way.

Tuchel does seem to be leaving all the English lads out though.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by JohnMac » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:40 pm

He comes across as articulate, very grounded and humble.

As much as I think he fits the Dyche profile, surely he will go to a Club with more chance of honours.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:44 pm

That one ain't ever gonna happen...not a prayer,
Who makes this shite up? :lol:
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Hipper » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:00 pm

Would he fit in with the current way we play or would we adapt to him? What does he do when we haven't got the ball? This latter question is important because we mostly don't have possession in games unlike Chelsea.

I think the answer is 'no' in both cases, therefore he wouldn't be suitable.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by IanMcL » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:03 pm

Just a London player with a London mindset.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by nyclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:15 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:03 pm
Just a London player with a London mindset.
Ah yes, those loan spells in Bristol, Swansea, and Birmingham. Which part of London are those in?
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:50 pm

he would be perfect for us but there is zero chance of us affording him

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:50 pm

I don't think Tuchel is anti English players just ones who are overrated and dont give him 100% effort.Tuchel is a poor man's Dyche
I think we're better of with Sean

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:30 pm

gtclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:06 pm
We will spend the money we get from Tarky , Gibson any any other sales if we're lucky. I really hope I'm wrong and if we survive AP & Co smell the coffee and do what's required

I'd be surprised if we spent half of the proceeds of the McNeil/Pope/Tarks sales on new players.

There's a whole new bunch of mouths to feed now..all of whom have a prior call on it.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:50 pm

I'd have Abraham here in a heartbeat, but the reality is 1) we can't afford his wages, 2) he's not going to be interested in moving to a team fighting relegation.

If he moves this summer he'll likely end up at somewhere such as Leicester or West Ham.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:53 pm

Anyone called Tammy ain’t playing on the Turf in a Burnley strip

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Bosscat » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:55 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:53 pm
Anyone called Tammy ain’t playing on the Turf in a Burnley strip
Unless its for the Ladies team huh Elizabeth 😏
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:57 pm

Now that’s gonna be some ladies team , eh Boss

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:39 pm

He's ok, but they aren't letting him go from Chelsea for no reason. He was absolutely awful when he played against us for Swansea?? on loan and he has loads of games now where he looks totally overhyped. Yes he'll score a few in that Chelsea side, but then again so might I with those players providing for me, but no way would he be up for constantly chasing balls like Rex the sheep dog on a cold, wet night at the Turf. Move on.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:42 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:53 pm
Anyone called Tammy ain’t playing on the Turf in a Burnley strip
He's really called Kevin.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:44 pm

Well, he can change his name back to Kevin if he wants to play for us

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by IanMcL » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:46 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:15 pm
Ah yes, those loan spells in Bristol, Swansea, and Birmingham. Which part of London are those in?
On his route back to London!

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by whiffa » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:46 pm

Not for me, another Welbeck type player who got a lot of hype with no real end product.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:12 pm

whiffa wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:46 pm
Not for me, another Welbeck type player who got a lot of hype with no real end product.
Crucially the distinct difference about 7 years of age which is huge in terms of being a footballer, 1s pre peak 1s post peak so me personally I wouldn’t class them as the same.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:33 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:42 pm
He's really called Kevin.
Is his surname Francis?

Fit what it’s worth, I’d have him here in a heartbeat.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by EarbyClaret » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:59 pm

I don't have in depth knowledge of Chelsea but early impressions are that Tuchel has reverted to the tried and trusted Mourinho/Conte blueprint for success that would have difficulty in accommodating the more expansive style favouring Abraham's game

Whilst there's no way he's coming here if the likes of West Ham and Villa are interested I'd bracket some of these comments writing him off along with those who stated that Barkley and Lingard would not fit our system/were not good enough/were not a 'Dyche type' player

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:09 am

EarbyClaret wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:59 pm
I don't have in depth knowledge of Chelsea but early impressions are that Tuchel has reverted to the tried and trusted Mourinho/Conte blueprint for success that would have difficulty in accommodating the more expansive style favouring Abraham's game

Whilst there's no way he's coming here if the likes of West Ham and Villa are interested I'd bracket some of these comments writing him off along with those who stated that Barkley and Lingard would not fit our system/were not good enough/were not a 'Dyche type' player
Coincidentally some of the comments regarding the Barkley & lingard suggestions as unsuitable, some of the similar comments were absolutely creaming when drinkwater arrived & he was the bees knees, so it’s wise to take some comments with a pinch of salt regarding some people’s opinions on future player suggestions.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:19 am

the typical delusional Burnley signing thread, where people on here pretend good players aren't good enough for us. Barkley is levels above anything we have and some on here said he's not good enough for us.

Abraham probably has more goals than our entire forward line combined this season but he isn't good enough for us? :lol: aye alright then experts
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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by WiscoClaret » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 am

Would love to see Tammy at Burnley. The link up between him McNeil and JBG would be sublime.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by warksclaret » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:12 am

Every time he went into a tackle the Longside would be chanting "Tammy Wyn-it"

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Jamesy » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:05 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:19 am
the typical delusional Burnley signing thread, where people on here pretend good players aren't good enough for us. Barkley is levels above anything we have and some on here said he's not good enough for us.

Abraham probably has more goals than our entire forward line combined this season but he isn't good enough for us? :lol: aye alright then experts
I’ll tell you what or who are delusional, people who post that players like Tammy Abraham are out of favour at their club and that he would be good for us. Deli Ali is out of favour at Spurs, what about him? We should be discussing young prospects or journeymen in the Championship because that is what we will be signing in the close season.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:17 pm

Was Barkley good enough?
In theory yes, but he'd spent time at Chelsea not doing a great sodding deal, so was always a high risk which we couldn't afford.
That was the general consensus amongst his detractors, his ability wasn't doubted, it was his commitment etc.
Naturally this has been twisted around by some to try and belittle others which is not unsurprising really.

Abraham is more than good enough, but well above our station.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:51 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:05 pm
I’ll tell you what or who are delusional, people who post that players like Tammy Abraham are out of favour at their club and that he would be good for us. Deli Ali is out of favour at Spurs, what about him? We should be discussing young prospects or journeymen in the Championship because that is what we will be signing in the close season.
Abraham would be great for us, not that we'd sign him.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:09 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:17 pm
Was Barkley good enough?
In theory yes, but he'd spent time at Chelsea not doing a great sodding deal, so was always a high risk which we couldn't afford.
That was the general consensus amongst his detractors, his ability wasn't doubted, it was his commitment etc.
Naturally this has been twisted around by some to try and belittle others which is not unsurprising really.

Abraham is more than good enough, but well above our station.
I think you’re revising history a little there, Sidney.

There were more than a few that said Barkley wasn’t good enough, which is of course, nonsense.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:27 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:09 pm
I think you’re revising history a little there, Sidney.

There were more than a few that said Barkley wasn’t good enough, which is of course, nonsense.
Not really.
He'd done very little at Chelsea, he has talent, but seemingly lacked the work ethic to go with it.
Hardly anyone said he wasn't good enough for us, but as per there are people on here who want to look superior over this.

Barkley scored 4 league goals at Chelsea, in 52 appearances...
Mainly used as a sub but there was no guarantee he'd be more productive elsewhere.
He's proven his doubters in the football world wrong at Villa and good on him.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:45 pm

It seems to be a popular ideology to recognise & acknowledge what other players have done elsewhere & transfer that over here as if the same will happen, not taking into consideration that the said players were surrounded by better players & not afforded the same opportunities there would get here, but like for like comparisons are real life, it’s a very peculiar way of measuring what somebody could potentially achieve.

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Re: Tammy Abraham

Post by whiffa » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:02 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:12 pm
Crucially the distinct difference about 7 years of age which is huge in terms of being a footballer, 1s pre peak 1s post peak so me personally I wouldn’t class them as the same.
Yeah I wasn't saying they were directly comparable right this minute - just that they were both over-rated. Welbeck was hugely over rated when he was at United.

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